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NEW YORK TIMES TARGETS THE POPE AGAIN
Catholic League ^ | March 16, 2010 | William Donohue

Posted on 03/16/2010 7:25:56 AM PDT by Pope Pius XII

Catholic League president Bill Donohue comments on the latest attack on the pope by the New York Times:

Once upon a time there was a homosexual priest who was accused of molesting boys in Germany. That was 30 years ago. At the approval of Archbishop Joseph Ratzinger (now the pope), he was sent away for therapy and was later reinstated; years later, under a new archbishop, there was another incident and more therapy.

We know this because the New York Times (which does not like to report on molesting rabbis in 2010), told us about this on Saturday in a front-page article. Today, it ran a front-page article on the same story. Was there any difference? Yes. On Saturday, the Times was only able to identify the priest as bearing the initial "H." Today, it has real news: his name is Hullermann. And now "H" has been suspended.

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TOPICS: Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: bxvi; catholic; nyt; romancatholic; sexualabuse
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To: MikeWUSAF
Personally, if I felt the way some of these folks do I would keep it to myself because aside from being wrong, it’s creepy.

Speaking as an ex-Catholic, it's hard to understand how deep and strong the indoctrination is. It's beyond reason.

81 posted on 03/16/2010 9:20:47 AM PDT by T Minus Four ("You do not have soul, you ARE a soul. You have a body." C.S. Lewis)
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To: FourtySeven

http://www.justice.ie/en/JELR/Pages/PB09000504
In November 2009, the Irish Commission to Inquire into Child Abuse reported its findings in which it concluded that:

“the Dublin Archdiocese’s pre-occupations in dealing with cases of child sexual abuse, at least until the mid 1990s, were the maintenance of secrecy, the avoidance of scandal, the protection of the reputation of the Church, and the preservation of its assets. All other considerations, including the welfare of children and justice for victims, were subordinated to these priorities. The Archdiocese did not implement its own canon law rules and did its best to avoid any application of the law of the State”.


82 posted on 03/16/2010 9:20:52 AM PDT by TSgt (RE-ELECT NOBODY - VOTE THEM ALL OUT!)
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To: T Minus Four

You know it’s not a world power — but it’s a big dimocrat power. My money is on the fact that they DO hush up teacher offense stories if they can.

Big supporters of Obama, obamacare and abortion.


83 posted on 03/16/2010 9:22:54 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Kenny Bunk

Besides, the Catholic Church was fully aware that the activity was a crime. They concealed crimes. That’s a...crime. Last I looked, card-playing is still legal. Even for Baptists.


84 posted on 03/16/2010 9:23:03 AM PDT by T Minus Four ("You do not have soul, you ARE a soul. You have a body." C.S. Lewis)
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To: Salvation

True. On a related note, 53% of Catholics voted for Obama.


85 posted on 03/16/2010 9:24:09 AM PDT by T Minus Four ("You do not have soul, you ARE a soul. You have a body." C.S. Lewis)
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To: MikeWUSAF

**It would not shock me to see some of these folks look an abused child in the eye and tell them to “shut up” as they have here. **

Good grief, man. I operated a child care center at one time. I NEVER told anyone to “shut up” about any child abuse.

Please don’t accuse ALL Catholics based on your own experience — whatever that was.

What are your facts?


86 posted on 03/16/2010 9:25:43 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: T Minus Four
Speaking as an ex-Catholic, it's hard to understand how deep and strong the indoctrination is. It's beyond reason.

I don't like seeing any Christian faith attacked. That said, I have too much integrity to allow the egregious covering up of sexual abuse. Posting this article and then claiming it's simply a result of anti-Catholic bias was their mistake.
87 posted on 03/16/2010 9:25:57 AM PDT by TSgt (RE-ELECT NOBODY - VOTE THEM ALL OUT!)
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To: MikeWUSAF
"I have many family and friends who are Catholic. I don’t hate them or their faith. I do hate those who abused children and covered it up."

The Church is not perfect, only God is perfect. If you were hurt by individuals within the Church the Church too was hurt.

Christ taught up to offer seven petitions when we pray. One of these is the forgiveness of sins (forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us.) As difficult as this might be you are called to it.

88 posted on 03/16/2010 9:27:06 AM PDT by Natural Law
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To: kitkat

The secular and sacred worlds have become intertwined..like a serpent.

Psychiatrists can muck up the secular world all they want but the sacred world needs to get those perverted men (or women) out of the holiness of the faith once and for all...and they can then pray and be redeemed within their own relationship with the Lord.


89 posted on 03/16/2010 9:27:34 AM PDT by eleni121 (For Jesus did not give us a timid spirit , but a spirit of power, of love and of self-discipline)
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To: Salvation; MikeWUSAF

He’s referencing THE FACT that on an earlier post, a Catholic defender of pedophiles told him to “shut up”.


90 posted on 03/16/2010 9:27:59 AM PDT by T Minus Four ("You do not have soul, you ARE a soul. You have a body." C.S. Lewis)
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To: T Minus Four
"On a related note, 53% of Catholics voted for Obama."

But when we hear that 54 percent of American Catholics voted for President Obama last November, and that this somehow shows a sea change in their social thinking, we can reasonably ask: How many of them practice their faith on a regular basis? And when we do that, we learn that most practicing Catholics actually voted for Senator McCain. Of course, that doesn't really tell us whether anyone voted for either candidate for the right reasons. Nobody can do a survey of the secret places of the human heart. But it does tell us that numbers can be used to prove just about anything. We won't be judged on our knowledge of poll data. We'll be judged on whether we proved it by our actions when we said "I am a Catholic, and Jesus Christ is Lord."

- Archbishop Charles Chaput

91 posted on 03/16/2010 9:30:04 AM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law

after the pedophiles have been exposed, brought to civil justice for their CRIMES, removed from the clergy, confessed and repented, then we’ll talk about forgiveness.

You expect people to forgive an offender who is continuing to offend?

These are grown men who knew exactly what they were doing. Let’s not forget that. if they were truly sorry, they would turn themselves in to the police, resign their office and seek help.


92 posted on 03/16/2010 9:30:46 AM PDT by T Minus Four ("You do not have soul, you ARE a soul. You have a body." C.S. Lewis)
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To: MikeWUSAF

To be convincing here, you must show that the cases of abuse occured in the time when we knew, as we know now, that pedophilia cannot be cured. IOW, show that the actual abuse occured within at least 20 years, if not preferably 15 years.

Not the reporting of the abuse to civil authorites, but the actual incidents. That’s the only way that a theory of “conspiracy” would he more reasonable.


93 posted on 03/16/2010 9:31:18 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: T Minus Four

That wasn’t the point. As far as the inaction of archbishops go, that’s inexcusable. My point is that the assault on my Church is intended to wear us Catholics down.


94 posted on 03/16/2010 9:31:54 AM PDT by Pope Pius XII (There's no such thing as divorce)
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To: Natural Law
How many of them practice their faith on a regular basis?

I'm thinking that men who delight in touching the genitals of little boys and use their position of authority given to them by the Catholic Church to continue to do so, even after being discovered, are not "practicing their faith"

95 posted on 03/16/2010 9:33:09 AM PDT by T Minus Four ("You do not have soul, you ARE a soul. You have a body." C.S. Lewis)
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To: T Minus Four

I DO NOT DEFEND PEDOPHILES! I CHALLENGE YOU TO SHOW ME WHERE I DEFENDED PEDOPHILES!


96 posted on 03/16/2010 9:34:29 AM PDT by Pope Pius XII (There's no such thing as divorce)
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To: Pope Pius XII
My point is that the assault on my Church is intended to wear us Catholics down.

Well actually, I think it is intended to bring to light the fact that crimes against children were committed and concealed. But if you want to take it personally, go ahead.

97 posted on 03/16/2010 9:34:59 AM PDT by T Minus Four ("You do not have soul, you ARE a soul. You have a body." C.S. Lewis)
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To: T Minus Four
"You expect people to forgive an offender who is continuing to offend?"

You are the master of your own soul, but have we not all been taught that when someone strikes you on your left cheek to turn and offer them your right?

98 posted on 03/16/2010 9:36:08 AM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Pope Pius XII
I DO NOT DEFEND PEDOPHILES! I CHALLENGE YOU TO SHOW ME WHERE I DEFENDED PEDOPHILES!

Hey, you're the one who told a condemner of pedophiles to shut up.

99 posted on 03/16/2010 9:37:10 AM PDT by T Minus Four ("You do not have soul, you ARE a soul. You have a body." C.S. Lewis)
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To: T Minus Four

Indeed the bishops did cover up for pedophiles. The media however and others included use it to as a way to say that celibacy caused the sex abuse scandal. It didn’t.


100 posted on 03/16/2010 9:37:18 AM PDT by Pope Pius XII (There's no such thing as divorce)
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