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Leader Makes "Historic Visit" to Israel: Says His "Greatest Dream" Is for Israel to Join the EU.
Worldview Times ^ | Feb 3rd, 2010 | Joel Rosenberg

Posted on 02/03/2010 9:38:07 AM PST by TaraP

On Monday, Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu welcomed Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi and the Italian cabinet for a series of joint meetings with the Israeli cabinet.

He also hosted a gala dinner for the Italian delegation at the King David Hotel in Jerusalem. Netanyahu described the leader from Rome as "one of Israel's greatest friends, a courageous leader who is a great champion of freedom and a great supporter of peace."

Netanyahu said this despite the fact that the Associated Press reports Italy is the leading trading partner with Iran in the E.U.

Berlusconi was one of only three leaders in Western Europe who voted against the anti-Israel U.N. resolution last fall regarding the Goldstone Commission Report (the other two were German Chancellor Angela Merkel and Netherlands Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende).

Rome was Netanyahu's first stop on his first trip to Europe upon becoming Prime Minister in 2009, specifically to see Berlusconi. Likewise, Avigdor Lieberman headed straight to Rome to see Berlusconi as his first trip as Israeli Foreign Minister.

"I can think of very few nations who have made such a contribution to Western culture as our two nations. In Rome and Jerusalem, the foundations for Western culture were laid," Netanyahu said Monday night.

Berlusconi, who brought eight senior members of his government, returned the compliment saying that Rome considers Jerusalem one of its closest allies and considers Israel a part of Europe. "As long as I am one of the shapers of politics," the Roman leader stated, "my greatest dream is to include Israel among the European Union countries." He invited Netanyahu to come to Italy for another round of meetings.

The meetings were described by some in the media as "historic." They also had echoes of Bible prophecy. The Hebrew Prophet Daniel indicates that in the "last days" Israel will sign a peace treaty with her many neighbors that appears to be brokered or negotiated or confirmed in some way by a leader from Rome (see Daniel chapter nine).

It's too soon to say definitively that yesterday's events were in any way part of those prophecies, but they were certainly intriguing to those tracking geopolitical events in light of End Times prophecies.


TOPICS: General Discusssion; Judaism; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: berlusconi; eu; italy; joelcrosenberg; joelrosenberg; middleeast; netanyahu
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To: The Comedian

Thanks.

My friend . . . who reads his Bible in Greek . . . claimed he could not say definitively one way or the other. You bettered him. Congrats.

I knew obelisks were phallic symbols . . . certainly Freud would say so . . . I didn’t realize how MUCH they were or how deliberately they were!

Goodness! . . . or Badness!

Thx Bro.


21 posted on 02/03/2010 5:21:54 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

Which would mean the Tribulation starts this year....

I think we should watch this Passover which is March 30th to see if they do start the Animal Sacrafice on a make shift altar in Jerusalem...

I don’t think it will happen...


22 posted on 02/03/2010 7:30:36 PM PST by TaraP (*GOD* made love so strong, so it would carry you all the way home.....)
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To: Quix
I have never read before that "obelisk" literally means "Baal's Shaft" or Baal's organ of reproduction.

Weelll, yes and no... Baal is a later "incarnation" of Nimrod. The first obelisk to be recorded stood at Babylon, was 130 ft high, and was dedicated to Nimrod by his wife, Semiramis (Ishtar, Diana). Understanding how Nimrod died, and how his wife "resurrected" him, and which piece of his body was missing, sheds a world of light upon phallicism, and the nature of the obelisk.

It ALL goes back to Mystery Babylon... All of it.


2Co 6:14 Be not unequally yoked with unbelievers: for what fellowship have righteousness and iniquity? or what communion hath light with darkness?
2Co 6:15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what portion hath a believer with an unbeliever?
2Co 6:16 And what agreement hath a temple of God with idols? for we are a temple of the living God; even as God said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
2Co 6:17 Wherefore Come ye out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, And touch no unclean thing; And I will receive you,
2Co 6:18 And will be to you a Father, And ye shall be to me sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

23 posted on 02/04/2010 1:01:45 AM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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To: Quix
I found this very interesting.

“Genuine Christians must pray that God will bring through His One-Third Remnant through the fires of persecution as His wonderful Scriptures foretell. Even though Israel is now completely controlled by the despicable Illuminati, we Christians must love the Israel which will be left after the Two Thirds unbelievers, rank sinners, and Illuminists fall on the sword of Antichrist.”

1/3 of the current population seems a lot after the AC’s reign and all the horrible war, plague and pestilence but, perhaps should give us more hope. God Bless

24 posted on 02/04/2010 4:52:04 AM PST by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: Quix
Thank you so much for the ping! And please accept my apology for the delayed response. We have a new puppy, and he's been keeping me very busy.

The linked document mentions Enoch in reference to Masons. I have no information on that aspect. Sorry...

25 posted on 02/04/2010 10:15:46 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

No sweat.

Wasn’t sure you did but thought you might.

Was an interesting . . . contrast to what you and I take from Enoch—at least what I understand of that! LOL.

May God’s wisdom and ease be with you two and your new puppy.

What breed?


26 posted on 02/04/2010 10:23:21 PM PST by Quix ( POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: wolfcreek

Interesting.

I don’t know that Christians praying re the remanant left is going to change anything dramatically—I could be wrong. Am all for prayer.

Must be talking about the 1/3 killed then another 1/3 of what’s left of that killed off. But, IIRC, that’s talking about all mankind. Am I wrong?


27 posted on 02/04/2010 10:25:00 PM PST by Quix ( POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: roamer_1

I’m aware of the ‘recreation’ from his corpse’s phallus story that his wife supposedly pulled off with witchcraft or whatever such.

Interesting bunch of stories, at least.

Thx.


28 posted on 02/04/2010 10:26:12 PM PST by Quix ( POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
I pray for God's blessings for you, too - including a quick recovery from your dental surgery!

Our puppy is half Australian Shepherd and half Labrador Retriever, 9 weeks old. He looks like he's wearing a tuxedo (black and white) - so he fits in nicely with all the penguins. LOLOL!

29 posted on 02/04/2010 10:26:17 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

Goodness! Maybe Opus would nominate him to be an honorary penguin!

Sounds like an absolutely wonderful mix of a dog. Should be quite trainable.

Hair might be something else, however! LOL.

I hope a smaller house means a bigger yard??? He sounds like he could use space to run in! LOL.

I wonder how he’d be at herding ducks or penguins or sheep! LOL.


30 posted on 02/04/2010 10:29:54 PM PST by Quix ( POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
LOLOL!

Thankfully, his hair is short. And so far so good on the smarts.

This is a small town with several parks and rabbits and squirrels, so I'm sure he'll have lots to do burn up all of his energy.

31 posted on 02/04/2010 10:34:11 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

Yea!

If you post a pic on your home page, please ping me to it.

Blessings to all of you.


32 posted on 02/04/2010 11:12:08 PM PST by Quix ( POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

I think it meant 2/3 dead/gone and 1/3 left to carry on. (true believers, I suppose)

Other *prophecies* I’ve heard claim much fewer people left.


33 posted on 02/05/2010 11:45:43 AM PST by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: TaraP; GiovannaNicoletta
Which would mean the Tribulation starts this year....

I doubt it.

I don't see the neighbors of Israel ready to make a peace accord, or anyone on the current scene with the ability to unify the world. Also, the Temple hasn't been rebuilt.

No question the day will come, but I think it will be obvious when it does.

34 posted on 02/05/2010 1:05:50 PM PST by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: wmfights

Are you certain the temple has to be rebuilt before the Rapture?


35 posted on 02/05/2010 1:10:51 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
Are you certain the temple has to be rebuilt before the Rapture?

No.

The construction though will take a great deal of time, years.

Rev 11:1 Then I was given a reed like a measuring rod. And the Angel stood saying, Rise and measure the temple of God, the altar and those who worship there.

The Temple is substantial and the 2 witnesses prophesy for 1,260 days there. The question is at what point of the Tribulation are the 2 witnesses killed. I believe it is towards the middle. If we then backtrack 5 1/2 years (figuring 2 years for construction) I think the Temple starts to be built before the Rapture.

36 posted on 02/05/2010 1:28:20 PM PST by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: wmfights
The construction though will take a great deal of time, years.

Maybe not.

From What? Muslim Leader Wants Temple Rebuilt:

Adnan Oktar, who uses the pen name of Harun Yahya, is a controversial but highly influential Muslim intellectual and author with more than 65 million of his books in circulation worldwide. Oktar recently met with three representatives from the re-established Jewish Sanhedrin, a group of 71 Orthodox rabbis and scholars from Israel, to discuss how religious Muslims, Jews and Christians can work together on the project.

Oktar added that the Temple of Solomon "will be rebuilt and all believers will worship there in tranquility." During his meeting with the Sanhedrin Rabbis, Oktar expressed his belief that the Temple could be rebuilt in one year:

"It could be done in a year at most. It could be built to the same perfection and beauty. The Torah says it was built in 13 years, if I remember correctly. It could be rebuilt in a year in its perfect form."

Apparently it won't take them very long to get the Temple constructed once they start.

And the fact that they basically have all the utensils either made or found necessary to conduct sacrifices, they have the alter built, and they have Levitical men in the process of training to conduct the rituals and sacrifices tells us that once that they begin construction on the Temple, everything could be in progress within a year after the building starts.

37 posted on 02/05/2010 1:56:35 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
Apparently it won't take them very long to get the Temple constructed once they start.

Okay so lets say they can get it done in 1 yr.

Dan 9:27 ...But in the middle of the week He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering.

The AC stops Temple practices 3 1/2 years into the Tribulation and I believe this is when the 2 witnesses are killed. That would mean the Temple is under construction 1 yr prior to the Tribulation. Also, prior to this is probably the 1st war of Gog and Magog and preceding that is probably the war noted in Psalm 83.

I do believe in a Pre-Trib Rapture, but I don't think it will occur much before the Tribulation. If I'm correct that means we will see several of these events occur.

As always I'm interested in your thoughts or those of anyone else who takes prophesy seriously.

38 posted on 02/05/2010 2:14:00 PM PST by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: wmfights
I personally believe that what we see going on right now over in Israel with the threatening movements of the nations which correspond to those listed in the Psalm 83 prophecy may very well mean that we are about to witness that prophecy being fulfilled.

As to the Temple being rebuilt- if the article I posted is correct, and the Tribulation is wrapped up in 2017, and we, like God, determine all of this by going according to the Jewish calendar, then midpoint to 2017 would be 2013. That means construction on the Temple would have to begin sometime this year. (This is also going according to the Jewish New Year, which begins in the fall. We are currently in the Jewish year 5770 which started on nightfall September 20, 2009. The Jewish year 5771, our 2010, will begin nightfall September 10, 2010. That date would start the countdown to the date on the Jewish calendar which would be our 2013).

That is what makes this particular prophecy very interesting.

All of this is speculation and remains to be seen whether or not it will happen. We certainly don't have long before we know for sure.

39 posted on 02/05/2010 3:19:40 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

http://www.templeinstitute.org/gra-churva-holy-temple.htm

“Regarding the Rumor about the Building of the Holy Temple on March 16th, 2010, and the Story that Lies Behind It”

...AS EXCITING AS THIS STORY IS, the true story, from which the current version has taken certain poetic license, is even more exciting...

...HAVING EXAMINED THE HISTORY of the Churva synagogue, and the source of today’s current excitement, it can be stated that heart of the matter is not a prophetic prediction of a precise building-of-the-Temple date...


40 posted on 02/05/2010 3:41:39 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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