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‘They Have Been Cursed’: Pat Robertson Says Haiti ‘Swore a Pact to the Devil’
breitbart.tv ^ | * 44 comments * * * * Bookmark and Share January 13, 2010 | Pat Robertson

Posted on 01/13/2010 12:10:06 PM PST by BJClinton

"We will serve you if you will get us free from the French."

Video at link.


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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

WOW!


121 posted on 01/13/2010 12:53:28 PM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Some people just need a hug. You know who you are!)
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To: BJClinton

How does this turn people to Christ? It doesn’t so Pat needs to just be quiet. So sad.


122 posted on 01/13/2010 12:56:02 PM PST by Halls (Jesus is my Lord and Savior)
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

Stop dragging your knuckles like that. They will hurt, start to bleed and make you believe that God hates you.


123 posted on 01/13/2010 12:56:17 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP
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To: BJClinton

Somebody should tell this idiot that bad things DO HAPPEN to good people, and having something bad happen to you doesn’t mean that you’re a bad person. What happen to he send the ran on the just and the unjust? Or all the sfferting Paul went through - including natural disaster like hurricanes and a shipwreck? He’s a preacher? He doesn’t know the first thing about the Bible.


124 posted on 01/13/2010 12:57:18 PM PST by Hilda
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To: I Buried My Guns
Do an image search on "falchion" and "machete".

Not a whole lot of difference.

125 posted on 01/13/2010 12:57:44 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: BJClinton
Pat makes an intruiging point. ONE ISLAND. Yet only ONE side was smashed with a massive earthquake, and the other side was TOTALLY UNTOUCHED. The side that is faithful to Christ was spared, and the side who practices 17 types of Voodoo, has Satanic temples and shrines is turned to dust. One Island, half in prosperity, well-educated, solid middle class, which produces perhaps a dozen future Hall of Fame baseball players a year. The other side, poorer than dirt, illiterate, hopeless international welfare cases.

You can slam Pat all you want, but you wont find a more instructive test case on the planet. ONE ISLAND, half blessed by God, half cursed.

126 posted on 01/13/2010 12:57:47 PM PST by montag813
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To: Gamecock
Why hasn't God struck down America for abortion?

Who said He hasn't? Obama was elected and look where he's taking us. (just being facetious, but only a little).

127 posted on 01/13/2010 12:57:50 PM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: onyx

Pat got out of fighting in the Korean War thanks to his dad the Democrat Senator.

Pat stated he was a combat Marine who served in the Korean War. Other Marines in his battalion contradicted Robertson’s version, claiming he had never spent a day in a combat environment.

They asserted that instead of fighting in the war, Robertson’s primary responsibility was supplying alcoholic beverages for his officers


128 posted on 01/13/2010 12:57:53 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: DarthVader
Yes, he casually explains the logic behind the genocidal actions of a tyrannical government. I got that. From a soulless academic, that's expected. From a supposed man of the Lord, it's repulsive. The “too many Chinamen” rationale doesn't work for me. “Population control” is genocide by another name.
129 posted on 01/13/2010 12:59:00 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: BJClinton

Christ said: “Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem? I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish”


130 posted on 01/13/2010 12:59:22 PM PST by inpajamas (http://outskirtspress.com/ONE)
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To: Petronski

Sure. http://www.coldsteel.com/poaxecl.html


131 posted on 01/13/2010 12:59:37 PM PST by Durus (The People have abdicated our duties and anxiously hopes for just two things, "Bread and Circuses")
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

What are you talking about? Sin affected our entire world. It was not God’s fault. Sin has consequences. However, I DO NOT believe that God singled out Haiti to be judged by earthquake. Pat Robertson is wrong. You have misinterpreted my post.


132 posted on 01/13/2010 12:59:51 PM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Some people just need a hug. You know who you are!)
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THE CENTER FOR BLACK STUDIES UCSB
“The imposition of European values and Catholicism took many forms. These interdictions and measures which continued throughout Haiti’s history and the clandestine nature of Vodou ceremonies which thus resulted, led to the revalorization of the very African cultural values that both Westerners and the Haitian elite had tried to suppress. The reality is that these various forms of systematic attempts of assimilation and acculturation of the Haitian people did not destroy our national religion which remains omnipresent, pervasive, strong and continues to perform important functions in ALL aspects of Haiti’s social life. The Haitian ancestral religion represents a key element of Haitian consciousness and provides moral coherence through common cosmological understandings. The principles outlined here constitute some of the core moral values emphasized in the Haitian worldview. Vodou offers a particular ethical orientation grounded in both an African ontological conception of life and the Haitian realities—ecological, linguistic, economic, social and political.” http://research.ucsb.edu/cbs/projects/divinehaiti.html

The majority of the Africans who were brought as slaves to Haiti were from Western and Central Africa. The Vodun practitioners brought over and enslaved in the United States primarily descend from the Ewe, Anlo-Ewe, and other West African groups.[citation needed] The survival of the belief systems in the New World is remarkable, although the traditions have changed with time and have even taken on some Catholic forms of worship.[1] Two important factors, however, characterize the uniqueness of Haitian Vodou as compared to African Vodun; the transplanted Africans of Haiti, similar to those of Cuba and Brazil, were obliged to disguise their loa (sometimes spelled lwa) or spirits as Roman Catholic saints, an element of a process called syncretism.

Roman Catholicism was mixed into the religion to hide their “pagan” religion from their masters, who had forbidden them to practice it. Thus, Haitian Vodou has roots in several West African religions, and incorporates some Roman Catholic and Arawak Amerindian influences. It is common for Haitians followers of the Vodou religion to integrate Roman Catholic practices by including Catholic prayers in Vodou worship.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haitian_Vodou#cite_ref-name_0-1


133 posted on 01/13/2010 1:00:06 PM PST by anglian
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To: BJClinton

Why is that absurd? Your historical point at Africa actually aids in the belief that this could be some type of judgment. The “voodoo” countries of Africa are in as deplorable condition as Haiti. Coincidence?


134 posted on 01/13/2010 1:00:24 PM PST by Beeman
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To: BJClinton

What an insensitive moron. Didn’t he say something similar regarding the 9/11 attacks about the U.S.?


135 posted on 01/13/2010 1:00:27 PM PST by Sarabaracuda (Rubio 2010 , Hoffman 2010 , Palin 2012)
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To: All; BJClinton; EveningStar; SoCalPol

It’s just gone viral anyway.

SHEPARD SMITH PLAYED THE PAT ROBERTSON VIDEO.


136 posted on 01/13/2010 1:00:45 PM PST by onyx
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

He explains the logic of their actions but does not condone it and he says so.


137 posted on 01/13/2010 1:01:31 PM PST by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: drstevej; OrthodoxPresbyterian; CCWoody; Wrigley; Gamecock; Jean Chauvin; jboot; AZhardliner; ...
Ping to Gamecock, as possibly of interest to the YBPDLNPL list.

Why not!

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138 posted on 01/13/2010 1:02:47 PM PST by Gamecock (We always have reasons for doing what we do.)
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To: BJClinton
If you watch the video, Pat says the Haitians made a pact with the devil to get rid of the French, but he thinks the French leader was Napoleon III! The Haitians fought heroically against the French, including Napoleon I, who employed horrendous atrocities against them. Unlike most American slaves, the Haitians were not cared for as valuable property. They were worked to death, then replaced by fresh Africans. Haiti was the second New World country to win its independence, after the U.S.

Voodoo is not Satan worship, but a strange amalgam of Catholicism and traditional African religions. Jesus came to the sickest people, as a physical and spiritual physician. That is what Haiti needs.

139 posted on 01/13/2010 1:03:07 PM PST by hellbender
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

I simply meant to get your attention. You are coming accross like a typical fundamentalist. Heavy on the MENTAL.


140 posted on 01/13/2010 1:05:05 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP
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