Posted on 11/13/2009 5:05:13 PM PST by HarleyD
We are currently the only human species alive, but as recently as 24,000 years ago another one walked the earth — the Neanderthals.
These extinct humans were the closest relatives we had, and tantalizing new hints from researchers suggest that we might have been intimately close indeed. The mystery of whether Neanderthals and us had sex might be solved if the entire Neanderthal genome is reported soon as expected. The matter of why they died and we succeeded, however, remains an open question.
Maybe not nasty and brutish, but still short
Why did Neanderthals go extinct?
Roughly 30,000 years ago, the Neanderthals disappeared, although pockets might have survived until as recently as 24,000 years ago. Since they vanished just as modern humans were emerging there, scientists have long speculated that we might have driven their extinction.
"I think we did away with our competition," asserted paleoanthropologist Ian Tattersall at the American Museum of Natural History in New York. "We either did it indirectly by out-competing them over resources or directly by conflict. Homo sapiens is completely different from any other hominid that ever existed — we process information about the world in a different way."
Other scientists have suggested that Neanderthals weren't destroyed so much as absorbed by modern humans. "Maybe they were wiped out by disease or by conquerors, but maybe they did leave important genes into our gene pool," said paleoanthropologist Milford Wolpoff at the University of Michigan.
Paleoanthropologist Tim Weaver at the University of California at Davis also noted that our species apparently could live at higher population densities than Neanderthals. As a result, this slight difference, with or without interbreeding, would have led to us replacing them.
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Interesting observation. One might wander among the hills of Tennessee or Afghanistan and see folks that, shall we say, differ more in appearance than the average? Am I agreeing with the Neanderthal theory? Not quite. But there are many unknowns.
Re: Bawney Fwanks - could be that’s why the species died out? No reproduction, no continuation of the species.
Very interesting. God, that Bible....
From a brief article from Answers In Genesis:
“Since the Bible describes all human beings as sinners, and we are all related (“And He has made from one blood every nation of men to dwell on all the face of the earth,” Acts 17:26), the gospel makes sense only on the basis that all humans alive and all that have ever lived (except for the first woman6 ) are descendants of the first man Adam. If this were not so, then the gospel could not be explained or defended.
Thus, there was only one man at the beginning—made from the dust of the earth (Genesis 2:7).
This also means that Cain’s wife was a descendant of Adam. She couldn’t have come from another race of people and must be accounted for from Adam’s descendants.”
for the full article, reasonably succinct - here is a link:
http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/nab/who-was-cains-wife
They make the very solid theological point that only sons of Adam can be saved. There is only a plan of salvation for those who fell, who were Adam’s posterity.
I would, of course, agree with you. There is only ONE descendant from Adam. The point being, at least according to this article, is that homo sapiens were completely different, and processed information differently (perhaps divinely), than the neanderthals. It could be safely argued that those descendants, the descendants of Adam, made it through the Great Flood. The rest would have perished. And there wouldn't be a conflict with the text as the scriptures may be abscribing "the race of men" to homo sapiens.
Interesting observation. One might wander among the hills of Tennessee or Afghanistan and see folks that, shall we say, differ more in appearance than the average? Am I agreeing with the Neanderthal theory? ... many unknowns.
The word ‘blood’ was added in Acts 17:26. And there are two different days of flesh beings created/formed in Genesis 1 and 2.
Of course they had sex together. The question is whether they had children as a result.
Ewwwwww.....gross....
John 1:1 In the beginning (that means Genesis) was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
So if the Heavenly Father is given to us by His Word from the beginning, the beginning is what sets the foundation.
Now we have scientific evidence there is more than one blood type. So how did all the different blood types get their beginning? And in this modern era DNA can tell the sex and the race of the individual. IF we are all one blood when did this reactions of blood types and distinguishing features recognized by DNA begin.
Genesis 6:2 is the second place in the Word where Neanderthals having sex with modern humans is recorded.
BUT Christ Himself told Nicodemus that the 'first' requirement to see the kingdom of God was to be born from above. So these that were reproduced of the flesh modern humans and so called Neanderthals, that came through this flesh age would have met that first requirement.
The book of Jude tells us about those of Genesis 6:2 that refused to be born into flesh and pass through this flesh age and they are marked and numbered for that same death that the devil was judged.
Now the Adam and Eve sinned the first sin of flesh in this flesh age. Why I say that, because before the Adam was ever formed we are told that in the midst of the Garden of Eden was the symbolic 'tree of the knowledge of good and evil'. Yet at the end of Genesis 1 The heavenly Father said his creation was good.
Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28 both describe that 'age' when the devil was created and when he rebelled and there he was as a symbolic tree knowing 'good and evil.
Add back country New England, and it sounds Lovecraftian.
Please don't start mentioning Cthulhu, the Deep Ones, the Elder Race, the Mi-Go, the Old Ones, the Outer Ones, or the planets of Yuggoth or Yaddith, or utter the cry Tekeli-li whilst traveling on the fabled Plateau of Leng, else the UFOlogists here will be crawling all over this thread like ants at a picnic.
Are you saying that the human race has been sort of infiltrated by some other mammal? I.e. we all have some sort of neandrethal blood in us?
If so I’d like to bring up the fact that separate species can’t reproduce successfully. Also, the sex with an animal is a crime of great proportions in scripture. Also, that mankind is the only creature made in God’s image.
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