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Did Neanderthals Have Sex with Modern Humans?
Fox News ^ | November 06, 2009 | Charles Q. Choi

Posted on 11/13/2009 5:05:13 PM PST by HarleyD

We are currently the only human species alive, but as recently as 24,000 years ago another one walked the earth — the Neanderthals.

These extinct humans were the closest relatives we had, and tantalizing new hints from researchers suggest that we might have been intimately close indeed. The mystery of whether Neanderthals and us had sex might be solved if the entire Neanderthal genome is reported soon as expected. The matter of why they died and we succeeded, however, remains an open question.

Maybe not nasty and brutish, but still short

Why did Neanderthals go extinct?

Roughly 30,000 years ago, the Neanderthals disappeared, although pockets might have survived until as recently as 24,000 years ago. Since they vanished just as modern humans were emerging there, scientists have long speculated that we might have driven their extinction.

"I think we did away with our competition," asserted paleoanthropologist Ian Tattersall at the American Museum of Natural History in New York. "We either did it indirectly by out-competing them over resources or directly by conflict. Homo sapiens is completely different from any other hominid that ever existed — we process information about the world in a different way."

Other scientists have suggested that Neanderthals weren't destroyed so much as absorbed by modern humans. "Maybe they were wiped out by disease or by conquerors, but maybe they did leave important genes into our gene pool," said paleoanthropologist Milford Wolpoff at the University of Michigan.

Paleoanthropologist Tim Weaver at the University of California at Davis also noted that our species apparently could live at higher population densities than Neanderthals. As a result, this slight difference, with or without interbreeding, would have led to us replacing them.

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TOPICS: Religion & Science; Theology
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To: HarleyD

Hey, I never touched one. Honest. Well, maybe that time during my teen years, but I had too much to drink.


21 posted on 11/13/2009 5:17:32 PM PST by irishtenor (Beer. God's way of making sure the Irish don't take over the world.)
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To: HarleyD

Ever look at a snowboarder?


22 posted on 11/13/2009 5:18:23 PM PST by WellyP
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To: HarleyD
What is an “extinct human”? I guess that I should be asking what is his definition of human?
23 posted on 11/13/2009 5:21:33 PM PST by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: HarleyD

"I don't see how that's any
of your damn business!"

24 posted on 11/13/2009 5:22:07 PM PST by Stultis (Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia; Democrats always opposed waterboarding as torture)
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To: HarleyD
Did Neanderthals have sex with modern day humans?

Yep.

Proof?

Red Hair is a Neanderthal trait.

Anyone who carries the HLA-B27 genetic defect (Ankylosing Spondylitis) is also a descendant of a Neanderthal.

I'm lucky, I got both.

The Noords were also descendants of the Neanderthals, and I remind you all on this thread that the Noord's raped, pillaged and plundered most of modern day Europe, so if you have European descent in your bloodline, you're all a bunch of Neanderthals too!

USC - A proud knuckle-dragging, cromagnum Neanderthal descendant.

25 posted on 11/13/2009 5:22:58 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: samtheman

Cue her? Hell, just ASK her! She was probably around back then.


26 posted on 11/13/2009 5:24:05 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: usconservative

OK, now for the redhead photos. Isn’t Kucinich’s wife Lizabeth a redhead?


27 posted on 11/13/2009 5:25:20 PM PST by BlueStateBlues (Blue State business, Red State heart. . . . .Palin 2012----can't come soon enough!)
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To: usconservative

Ooga Booga.


28 posted on 11/13/2009 5:25:31 PM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: HarleyD

That explains the Kennedy clan...


29 posted on 11/13/2009 5:54:43 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: HarleyD

Biblical scholars seem to agree that Cain married a sister, and that marriages between brothers and sisters were common early on.

It wasn’t forbidden until Leviticus.

It is ghastly for us to think about, but as caveats, remember that people were living hundreds of years then; so brothers and sisters were not necessarily raised together. Also, presumably the progressive genetic damage we are all inheriting was not yet present, so genetic problems were not as likely at all.


30 posted on 11/13/2009 6:03:38 PM PST by Marie2 (The second mouse gets the cheese.)
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To: HarleyD
When I was in college, the Neanderthal chicks were so easy to score with.

I never left the Phi Sigma Sigma house without a chick, as long as I brought along raw mutton.

31 posted on 11/13/2009 6:06:51 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: HarleyD


32 posted on 11/13/2009 6:12:01 PM PST by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: mountn man

That's not a neanderthal, that's a damn' alien!!!

33 posted on 11/13/2009 6:21:14 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Marie2
Biblical scholars seem to agree that Cain married a sister, and that marriages between brothers and sisters were common early on.

It may well be that some biblical scholars agree but it does not add up to what we are told about what Cain did. And have you noticed how closely the names of Cain's genealogy are to those of the Adam's genealogy?

Notice what is written in Genesis 4:14 "..... Behold, Thou has driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from Thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that everyone that findeth me shall slay me."

Why would Cain be worried about 'everyone' and not his immediate family if only his immediate family were the only peoples on this earth? No other children are recorded by Adam and Eve until after Cain left the area. And I agree we do not know how many other children Adam and Eve had, only the genealogy listed in chapter 5 leading up to Noah.

34 posted on 11/13/2009 6:21:45 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: usconservative

It’s not all bad; I recall reading that Neanderthals actually had larger brains than modern humans. Interbreeding might explain the glorious European schnozzola.


35 posted on 11/13/2009 6:22:02 PM PST by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: HarleyD
I have always had a pet theory that down syndrome is actually Neanderthal DNA trying to assert itself, this is why they almost all look alike.

Just a theory, don't hate on me.

36 posted on 11/13/2009 6:22:26 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied, the economy died)
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To: HarleyD
Did Neanderthals Have Sex with Modern Humans?
  1. Newsies are obsessed with sex.
  2. Scientificists keep changing their minds as to whether interbreeding was possible between neandertals and h. sapiens.

37 posted on 11/13/2009 7:16:36 PM PST by Lee N. Field (I am not a navi, nor do I ramble on pretending to be one on teh Interwebz.)
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To: HarleyD

I am not convinced that those Neanderthal genes are extinct at all. Over the years as I went to work, from time to time I would observe some men—oddly enough, it was never women—on the subway who had a distinct resemblance to the drawings of cavemen that I have seen. Sometimes I would see one who complemented the facial looks with mass amounts of dark hair emanating from his shirt cuffs.

No, they still walk among us.


38 posted on 11/13/2009 7:35:14 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: HarleyD

It is understood by many exegetes that the sons of God were the lineage of Seth, and the daughter of men were from the lineage of Cain. The descendants of Adam and Eve married their siblings. The Neanderthal DNA was too different from Cro-Magnon DNA for them to have produced viable offspring.


39 posted on 11/13/2009 7:42:58 PM PST by Nosterrex
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To: HarleyD

I think I might have dated a few during my single days!


40 posted on 11/13/2009 8:12:13 PM PST by boatbums (Pro-woman, pro-child, pro-life!)
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