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I don’t know what percentage of the END TIMES PING LIST

believes what percentage of my summary of such things.

Would love to have an answer to that.

SURVEY:

1. What percentage of Quix’s standard summaries re UFO’s and FALLEN ANGELS/ET’s do you tend to believe—as in believe it highly likely to be true or mostly true? ______%

2. What percentage of Quix’s standard summaries of such stuff do you tend to believe as in plausible to highly probable? _______%

3. What percentage of Quix’s standard summaries of such stuff do you tend to believe is mostly to almost totally government disinformation; lies from hell; rantings of crazy people etc.? _______%

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491 posted on 10/23/2009 5:43:41 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix; narses; Petronski; trisham; netmilsmom; Judith Anne; Mr Rogers
This is priceless!

I don’t know what percentage of the END TIMES PING LIST

believes what percentage of my summary of such things.

Would love to have an answer to that.

SURVEY:

1. What percentage of Quix’s standard summaries re UFO’s and FALLEN ANGELS/ET’s do you tend to believe—as in believe it highly likely to be true or mostly true? ______%

493 posted on 10/23/2009 5:47:09 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Quix

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494 posted on 10/23/2009 5:47:21 PM PDT by narses ("These are the days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed except his own.")
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To: Quix

You need to be pinging the end times ping list to POST 478 where you have detailed your theories.

I’m very interested in what percentage of POST 478 they believe in as well.


496 posted on 10/23/2009 5:50:39 PM PDT by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: Quix

I don’t know what percentage of the END TIMES PING LIST

believes what percentage of my summary of such things.

Would love to have an answer to that.

SURVEY:

1. What percentage of Quix’s standard summaries re UFO’s and FALLEN ANGELS/ET’s do you tend to believe—as in believe it highly likely to be true or mostly true? 10%

I believe that there is a correlation between demonic activity and UFOs; and, I believe demons can indwell world rulers. I do not believe the global elite ARE demons.

2. What percentage of Quix’s standard summaries of such stuff do you tend to believe as in plausible to highly probable? 25% Honestly - it seems a bit more science fiction than Scriptural - though who knows, maybe I’m wrong.

3. What percentage of Quix’s standard summaries of such stuff do you tend to believe is mostly to almost totally government disinformation; lies from hell; rantings of crazy people etc.? 5% Crazy folks can latch on to these things, but I don’t think that in general terms the idea of demonic activity both with the global elite and UFOs is crazy or disinformation.

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Appreciate your forthrightness. I tried to be honest too.


523 posted on 10/23/2009 6:37:18 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: Quix

1. What percentage of Quix’s standard summaries re UFO’s and FALLEN ANGELS/ET’s do you tend to believe—as in believe it highly likely to be true or mostly true? I can’t say

2. What percentage of Quix’s standard summaries of such stuff do you tend to believe as in plausible to highly probable? Mostof it.

3. What percentage of Quix’s standard summaries of such stuff do you tend to believe is mostly to almost totally government disinformation; lies from hell; rantings of crazy people etc.? __0_____%


539 posted on 10/23/2009 7:02:41 PM PDT by sport
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To: Quix

1. Difficult to know.

2. Plausible, yes.

3. YOUR summaries? zero percent.

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542 posted on 10/23/2009 7:07:51 PM PDT by Joya (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: Quix

3. What percentage of Quix’s standard summaries of such stuff do you tend to believe is mostly to almost totally government disinformation; lies from hell; rantings of crazy people etc.? _______%

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Of your summaries, zero percent is disinformation, etc. You are sorting through tons of stuff and weeding that out before you summarize.


544 posted on 10/23/2009 7:09:54 PM PDT by Joya (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: Quix
"1. What percentage of Quix’s standard summaries re UFO’s and FALLEN ANGELS/ET’s do you tend to believe—as in believe it highly likely to be true or mostly true? ______%

2. What percentage of Quix’s standard summaries of such stuff do you tend to believe as in plausible to highly probable? _______%

3. What percentage of Quix’s standard summaries of such stuff do you tend to believe is mostly to almost totally government disinformation; lies from hell; rantings of crazy people etc.? _______%

Quix, I think a lot of your stuff is very plausible, though I don't know how probable. Even so, considering the eyewitness reports of many extremely reputable people, one has to admit that the case for probability can be made without much trouble, outlandish as it may seem.

I'm never sure what to think of all this stuff, but the possibilities are both fascinating and compelling. Although I tend to share with you a certain amount of apprehension that the reality might not be benevolent, even though I hope it will be.

550 posted on 10/23/2009 7:17:29 PM PDT by Sam Cree (absolute reality)
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To: Quix

I’m not giving these folks any ammunition. Sorry.


582 posted on 10/23/2009 8:42:01 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: Quix; word_warrior_bob; Marysecretary
In response to your survey, dear brother in Christ, I’d first mention that I eschew all of the doctrines and traditions of men across the board. I have no bone to pick in disputes between groups within the body of Christ.

Who then is Paul, and who [is] Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man? - I Cor 3:5

I appreciate very much being pinged to the end times lists. I find the observations, interpretations and concerns of my brothers and sisters in Christ vis-à-vis Biblical prophecy and current events to be very interesting. And Jesus did tell us to watch:

Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh. – Matthew 25:12

I’ve never seen an unidentified flying object. My previous husband (now deceased) however saw one. And he was a pilot. So they invited him to a discussion panel on a TV program. He was upset with the whole program; one person on the panel was utterly dismissive of what he saw, said it must have been a helicopter or experimental aircraft and implied he was a liar. Being a pilot with a lot of experience, he knew what a helicopter or experimental aircraft looks like and he knew it wasn’t either of those. And the other panel member was just as tiresome, telling him what he saw, an alien spacecraft, little green men, the whole nine yards. He told the moderator in exasperation that he was an experienced pilot, he saw a object flying which he could not identify. It was unidentified flying object. Plain and simple. After that experience, he refused any more interviews.

Are the UFOs some kind of physical manifestation or disturbance caused by something going on in the spiritual realm? Could be, I don’t know.

I do know that I am a physical manifestation of something going on in the Spiritual realm. LOLOL!

But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. - Romans 8:9

For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. - Colossians 3:3

I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20

What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost [which is] in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? - I Corinthians 6:19

To God be the glory, not man, never man!

617 posted on 10/23/2009 9:35:03 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Quix
SURVEY:

As to your survey (and the longer declaration of your specs @ #478 or thereabouts):

I am not qualified to answer in the specific, as I tend to spend most of my time at the other end of the time-line... Way on the other end... I haven't spent enough time on these issues to form a well educated opinion.

However, anyone who has spent time under the Montana sky at night is bound to have seen things that cannot be explained away with ease.

Secondly, as you and I have discussed peripherally before, I do differ from you in that I believe "UFO" activity to be an earthbound technological phenomena, based upon the observable footage in the modern age. The objects seem to advance along a time-line comparable to our own advancements (see '50's vs. 60's vs. 70's etc... footage).

It is my estimation that the explosion of knowledge in the past century is a purposeful manipulation, and that technology is driving toward a purpose. A part of that technology is "all sorts of false signs and miracles", but the full truth of it is still beyond the bounds of evidence.

But where we differ on the "interplanetary" craft, the general idea of fallen angels manipulating the nations is something I can accommodate quite easily. In fact, it becomes easier to accept (for me) if "UFO"s are earthbound... "As in the days of Noah"...

It seems the technology may be striving toward the goal of making them unbound...

Lastly, the fruit of years is nearly ripe - the evidence of that is clear: Globalism. The bare fact that both parties are complicit, not only here, but in England too, not to mention other western countries, makes it quite obvious to me that the tinfoil hatters have been dead-on for years about that one. That an elite group above government is controlling the apparent destiny of mankind is now nearly without question.

So while I am not "up" on the specifics, having been newly added to your end times list, I am quite amenable to the generalities thereof.

665 posted on 10/24/2009 1:20:16 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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To: Quix

I was born and raised in a family that was into the occult. My grandma was a medium who used to hold seances in our house. Our house was filled with books from the Lucifer Trust by Alice Bailey, Madame Blavatsky, and many, many other occult books by the Theosophical Society.

My Mom was a friend of George Van Tassel and gave money to him to build his integraton at the Giant Rock Airport.

Every year we would go to the Flying Saucer Convention, and yes...I’ve seen UFO’s.

Later we bought a house in New Mexico and were part-time members of a UFO cult named City of the Golden Dawn...there. we would see people go into trances and “channel” space beings.

My Mom was also a devotee of Sai Baba (my Mom was very, very foolish!) who spent two summers living at his ashram in India. She also knew people who were disciples of Edgar Cayce and she went to a lot of those “readings.”

Interesting side tory: my sister tried to burn a picture of Sai Baba and it wouldn’t burn! It literally wouldn’t burn, even though she poured lighter fluid all over it. My Mom saw lots of “miracles” performed by Sai Baba, and several times when she “prayed to him” she would come home and find a picture of him in her living room, or a brooch of him, which wasn’t there before.

Thank God I became a Christian and renounced all that evil stuff and burned all those evil books.

My conclusion on all of this? It’s all from Satan, it’s all lies, given to susceptible people by the Father of Lies, and the “miracles” that occur are all from him, too.

But here’s the thing, being obsessed with hating those things is, I believe, as wrong-headed as worshiping them. I don’t think God wants us to dwell on UFO’s (which I do believe are demonic,) Sai Baba, aliens, seances, ouija boards or anything like that stuff. Deal with it, yeah...when it’s presented to you.

But I feel that obsessing over it is as much a trap as worshiping it, and Quix, I love you like a brother, but I think you’d be so much more at peace if you let go of all the stuff about UFO’s, aliens and maybe even the second coming and just concentrate on those things which are pure, noble, etc., as Paul said.

As far as Jedadiah goes, his writings sound EXACTLY like the people in New Mexico who “channeled” space beings, or the people like my grandma, who gave seances, or the Phillipino pyschic healers that my Mom knew, or the Edgar Cayce people she knew, or the Sai Baba people...the same irrational, disjointed, strange way of speaking, the weird claims, I don’t at all feel that he’s genuinely speaking the direct, quoted words of God, but is instead letting a dark force speak through him that is masquerading as words directly from God.

I hope this doesn’t get me bounced, but if it does, so be it...it’s just that I’ve seen this stuff for so many, many years...these people channeling words that come out in strange, disjointed weird statements and claims, and it concerns me to see it here on Freep.

With love for you, Quix, as I do believe you have a heart for God,

Ed


669 posted on 10/24/2009 3:15:39 AM PDT by Sir_Ed
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To: Quix
SURVEY:

1. What percentage of Quix’s standard summaries re UFO’s and FALLEN ANGELS/ET’s do you tend to believe—as in believe it highly likely to be true or mostly true? ______%

2. What percentage of Quix’s standard summaries of such stuff do you tend to believe as in plausible to highly probable? _______%

3. What percentage of Quix’s standard summaries of such stuff do you tend to believe is mostly to almost totally government disinformation; lies from hell; rantings of crazy people etc.? _______%


Given the fact that the likelihood of other intelligent life (or even unintelligent life) having evolved elsewhere in the universe by purely natural, aleatory means just one other time (assuming for the sake of argument that it happened here) is virtually zero and that each succeeding time would be that likelihood times that likelihood and so on for as many more instances that one wants to posit, there is no chance at all that one race, let alone 9-12 races, of aliens is strolling around the earth, striking secret deals with government, business, and military power brokers, occasionally taking time off to mutilate cattle and stick probes up people's butts.

The weirdness or disparity of everything attributed to them doesn't seem consistent with visiting space aliens as much as it does with those entities described by C.S. Lewis in That Hideous Strength.

There's the possibility that the optical phenomenon described as UFOs are phenomena as natural as the aurora borealis, red sprites, and blue jets. This doesn't mean, though, that they can't be used to lead people to believe one thing or another in the same way that knowledge of eclipses was used by Columbus to his advantage on his second voyage.

Some like to reinterpret old stories of goblins, sprites, demons, angels, incubi and succubi as encounters with extraterrestrials by gullible, ignorant, religiously-blinded nabobs. They believe that it is they who are the cognoscenti who have attained enough of the right kind of knowledge to understand that the visitors are really from other planets sent here to study us and to establish contact with the wise few to help prepare everyone for that great day of revelation which will break humanity free from its shackles of religious superstition and nationalism and usher in an bright era of brotherhood, understanding, and technologically-advanced means of doing whatever it is we've always wanted to do.

To me, they look like suckers getting set up for the big con.
673 posted on 10/24/2009 5:20:17 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Quix
Thank You Quix for being my #1 information source for exposing the great end time deception unfolding around all of us.

1. 90%

2. 10%

3. 0%

Denial or looking to the world to solve these problems is not an option. The only answer is found "in" our Lord Jesus Christ.

I am looking forward to seeing your completed puzzle when I am sure we will meet on the other side of the River Jordan.

678 posted on 10/24/2009 5:55:39 AM PDT by marbren
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To: Quix
I think that Blogger's comments come the closest to my thinking on this.

1. We know from Scripture that fallen angels do exist and that they "roam the earth, seeking whom they may devour". It's not completely outside the realm of possibility that these fallen angels utilize everything in their power for the purpose of deception, including UFOs.

I believe that God has told us everything we need to know to know Him as Savior, have a personal relationship with Him, and so be prepared for His second coming and the end of this age. I am not prepared to emphatically state that there is absolutely nothing out there that man has not discovered or knows everything about. I believe that there is much out there that puny man has absolutely no concept of and wouldn't understand or believe even if the truth about those things were told him.

2. Refer to number 1. We simply don't know and I think it is foolish to automatically dismiss something because, at this moment in time, we have no knowledge of it. There was a time when people laughed at the concept of airplanes.

3. I don't really get the gist of this but I don't think Quix is crazy. I think that when the rubber hits the road, Quix is a firm believer in the Gospel, in the fact that Jesus died to rescue fallen mankind, and he believes the inerrant Scriptural account of the life of Christ, is death on the cross and His resurrection, and what God tells us of the events surrounding His return to earth.

And, at the end of the day, what someone believes about Jesus Christ is the only thing that matters.

694 posted on 10/24/2009 7:10:10 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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Hi Quix. I must say that I find all of it fascinating and indeed possible. I have never known anyone, nor have I experienced anything to do with ufos, aliens, etc., but why would anyone simply reject the possibilty knowing who and what God is and has done?
Thanks for the interesting information!!


709 posted on 10/24/2009 8:06:37 AM PDT by jackv (The darkness hates the light!)
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To: Quix
Sorry Quix;
I don't believe that a fallen angel would require any form of "object" hovering around at night in order to do his or her routine ugly work.

Not to insist that they don't exist, or that there may be alliances I'm to dim to ascertain - those are a long way from being proved or disproved.

First priority, non pentacostal, would be to find out if there is anything out there at all...can all those lights really be swamp gas and balloons?

827 posted on 10/24/2009 5:27:36 PM PDT by norton
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To: Quix
Thank you for the ping though I am not an "End Times" but a "UFO".

I can not answer your questions as presented but will offer this...

1. I believe many people see unidentified flying objects. I have posted on FR about two separate occasions where I had thought I had seen mythological creatures. On these occasions I had a vantage point that allowed me to eventually determine the reality of what I was seeing. On another occasion I saw a real creature that didnt belong where it was and was told that I was crazy for having believed I had seen it but I was eventually (2 yrs later?)exonerated by press releases by the DNR stating that what I, and by then many others, had seen. From these events I have learned that many truly believe their reports but do not have all the facts and that there are occasions where fortunate timing or unusual insight allow some to have knowledge that others will not accept.

I outright reject the concept that there are physical entities which are "FALLEN ANGELS" but accept that there may be other intelligent life forms in the universe.

I make no effort to determine the veracity of the information offered and do not read it with that purpose in mind.

2.I believe it is highly probable that many believe such stuff and as such it is of interest to me.

3.All government information is disinformation. The truth may lie somewhere between 1% and 99% of what you are told but the official version does contain a lie of some sort.

I do not believe that physical entities from hell publish books or host web sites.

Crazy people rant as do the sane and on occasion either may whisper. All information should be gathered and the reason for it being offered should be determined.

859 posted on 10/25/2009 12:44:04 AM PDT by gnarledmaw (Obama: Evincing a Design since 2009)
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How can we ever know how much of what Quix says is true, how much is disinformation, or how much is just inaccurate for whatever reason. I suspect that the real answer is bigger than our puny minds can handle. People argue all the time about who is right and what is right... and it doesn’t matter because we are not the ones who have any control over any of this stuff. It is interesting to hear all sides and let people have their opinions. The true answer may be “all of the above is true” in different situations. Given that we are in a multidimensional universe, and most people can only interact with the 3-D, isn’t it rather arrogant of ANYONE to think they know it all? Yes I believe there are UFOs, YES I think some are extraterrestrial - but not all of them. And yes, I think there are big things happening in other dimensions that are affecting this one. I think it is a mistake to turn off the dialog and free exchange of ideas.


889 posted on 10/25/2009 7:05:45 AM PDT by Bookwoman ("...and I am unanimous in this..")
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I have not had the opportunity due to time restraints to read more than a small sampling of this thread, but since you prompted me via freepmail to respond to this survey, I will try to give my best assessment.

#1) 90%...I believe that Quix is truthfully reporting the incidents as they have been reported to him. Speculations about the nature of these phenomena are another matter, and difficult to determine. What is clear to me is that there are relatively large numbers of incidents that seem to be outside the realm of natural, ordinary events.

#2) 50%...Quix’s primary thesis; that reports of unidentified or alien craft and beings are actually fallen angels/demons is one that I concur with in many cases. It is certainly plausible to me given the nature of satan as a liar and father of lies, deceiver, and hater of the truth to use deception to draw men into belief in anything other than Christ, and aliens are an attractive place for for that faith to rest among those for whom religion is considered to be unscientific.

#3) 20%...Quiz often tries to expose govt. disinformation, rather than spread it. If he repeats any lies from hell, it is only to expose them for what they really are. Crazy people can sometimes appear intelligent and coherent, and are able to fool many people into believing their accounts, and I suspect that some of these reports may fall into that category.

A question was raised earlier about how widespread this view was among those in the Church. Since most of Christendom has very little understanding of the spirit world, even though “God is a spirit”, there is little understanding of the ways that satan can use the spirit world to deceive mankind. Being a “pentecostal” Christian, as is Quix, I think I am more open to this kind of possibility than most mainstream churchgoers. Among my circle of friends, I would say that while this belief is not widespread, it is at least considered a possibility by many.


1,021 posted on 10/26/2009 7:26:55 PM PDT by Truth Addict ("Whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth..." - Patrick Henry)
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