Posted on 10/17/2009 4:39:18 PM PDT by Jedediah
A manifold witness I have placed in you ,
All that is faithful and true ,
A oneness of The Father and I in one breath ,
Can you imagine this depth ,
For what once rested upon me ,
Was the one and the three in complete harmony ,
And so it is even now My fullness with you ,
For as you witness me all 3 come through ~ ~ ~
John 15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:
John 16:6-12 (King James Version)
6But because I have said these things unto you, sorrow hath filled your heart.
7Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
8And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
9Of sin, because they believe not on me;
10Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;
11Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.
12I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
John 20:22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:
1 Corinthians 4:18-21 (New King James Version) 18 Now some are puffed up, as though I were not coming to you. 19 But I will come to you shortly, if the Lord wills, and I will know, not the word of those who are puffed up, but the power. 20 For the kingdom of God is not in word but in power. 21 What do you want? Shall I come to you with a rod, or in love and a spirit of gentleness?
I surely do look forward to the day in which I am out of this body and home with Him.
In the meantime, we soldier on!
Are you using some kind of physics without math?
Thanks, as well. Your reply is probably the best way I can think to express my opinions on all this. We are to be constantly aware that our enemy, the devil, walks about as a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour. Ignoring all the ways he might try to fool people is unwise. Not saying he is behind everything unexplainable, just that we need to remember who we belong to and that “Greater is he that is in you than he who is in the world.”
. . .
indeed
The reason I love math is because it eliminates emotion and the irrationality that makes us human.
As I mentioned up thread, I majored in an strange kind of math at the grad level (econometrics). It was, in essence, an effort to take purely theoretic mathematics and apply it to human economic behavior at the macro level.
To do this, one had to be, in the lab, immune to emotion and human bias.
Long story, short. Mathematics at the pure level is crisp and clean because it does not involve human irrationality. Math at the pure level is pure machine and mechanics pushed to the theoretical extreme. And at the extreme it is indeed just theory.
The reason I separate mathematical proof from proof in general is a projection (an extrapolation) of that point of view.
Some things can be subjected to mathematical proof, but that has an oblique relationship with human activity. Not all human activity can be defined in mathematical terms...yet!
In the meantime...what are you trying to say?
And BTW what about your definition of "scientific proof"...not being intellectually dishonest, are we?
Not to insist that they don't exist, or that there may be alliances I'm to dim to ascertain - those are a long way from being proved or disproved.
First priority, non pentacostal, would be to find out if there is anything out there at all...can all those lights really be swamp gas and balloons?
Scientific proof is empirical and objective, not subjective or relative. Science deals with reality as it is detected by the senses and its extensions in terms such as quantity, location, size.
It describes it’s evidence of quantity, location, size and so in numbers and mathematics.
You seemed to be trying to separate out math from science. No can do.
Depends on their goal.
Depends on satan’s orders.
Depends on what God allows.
God was angry with them in Genesis for sharing war making technologies with man.
They’ve been doing it again on a grander scale.
Speaking emphatically from mostly ignorance and silence in terms of Scriptural evidence is not a greatly successful strategy.
But I also know some folks who have seen unidentified things that left them, not giddy with fun memories, but deeply frightened.
As regards fallen angels, anyone who has studied this particular enemy is keenly aware of its greatest weapon...deception!!!
I suggest ignoring the visual phenomena and focusing on what humans who claim to have been abducted say about this matter.
I don't know what is going on...but something is going on! We ignore the human response at our own risk.
Do these victims have proof? No. They have only the scars on their hearts...and sometimes on their bodies.
Think about that. Notice the error in it?
Science, in its pure form, is not infected by the human senses. Unfortunately, because we are human...our science is imperfect and is tainted.
That's why mathematics is different. And why it is limited.
BTW, just be honest...you're not a mathematician and that's OK. But if you pretend, your weakness are pushed to the front of the line for everyone to see.
You may be right about this alien stuff, but, for heavens sake, stop making points that are specious at best...dishonest at worst.
WELL AND ACCURATELY PUT.
THX.
. . . UNMITIGATED BALDERDASH yet again . . .
as the RELIGION OF SCIENCE PROVES DAY IN AND DAY OUT.
No. Wasn’t it Hynek who came up with swamp gas.
Regretted it the rest of his life. Thought it was a stupid statement.
I’m aware of the myth of the given, are you?
Do you discount science because of its limitations? Then you discount all your experience and everyone elses. No discussion of “truth” is possible.
>>>Science, in its pure form, is not infected by the human senses.
No such pure thing is possible.
Are you now saying that scientific proof is impossible or merely worthless?
True.
I have no doubt you have done the best you are capable of...congrats!
Goodnight!
EXCELLENT POINTS:
Science deals with reality as it is detected by the senses
Think about that. Notice the error in it?
Science, in its pure form, is not infected by the human senses. Unfortunately, because we are human...our science is imperfect and is tainted.
That’s why mathematics is different. And why it is limited.
BTW, just be honest...you’re not a mathematician and that’s OK. But if you pretend, your weakness are pushed to the front of the line for everyone to see.
You may be right about this alien stuff, but, for heavens sake, stop making points that are specious at best...dishonest at worst.
+++++++++++++
AND EASY TO SEE . . . for anyone with sufficient critical thinking skills and synapses.
I’m up for a while, but I do recognize your insult.
. . .
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.