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GetReligion ^ | July 17, 2009 | tmatt

Posted on 07/19/2009 11:31:37 AM PDT by Nosterrex

Q: What has been the fallout of all of this on your own diocese, in New Hampshire? Have you lost many church members?

A: Except for one parish in Rochester early on, no. That left about 15 people in that congregation, they met for about a year, and then asked me to close them down because there weren’t enough people to sustain a continued parish. That’s all. That’s it. There’s no one, no priests or parishes associated with the breakaway groups. Our diocese grew by 3 percent last year. …

Q: Who are you pulling in?

A: We have received so many Roman Catholics and young families, particularly families who are saying, “We don’t want to raise our daughters in a church that doesn’t value young people in our church.”

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TOPICS: Mainline Protestant; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: bishop; ecusa; episcopal; gay; homosexualagenda; homosexualbishop; religiousleft; schism

1 posted on 07/19/2009 11:31:38 AM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: Nosterrex

This is my first attempt at posting a topic on FR, so forgive me if I messed it up. This is an interview with the gay bishop, and he claims that Roman Catholics are flocking to his church. He makes several claims that just aren’t true.


2 posted on 07/19/2009 11:35:33 AM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: Nosterrex

Great, topic must be important for you to have this be your first post after such a long time period. Thanks


3 posted on 07/19/2009 11:39:39 AM PDT by mel
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To: Nosterrex

Welcome!

I also liked the replies at the end of the article. Indeed, Robinson’s entire congregation is very small, and shrinking fast, yet he seems to be in the news all the time. You’d think he had millions in his Bishopric.


4 posted on 07/19/2009 11:43:46 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Nosterrex
"We don’t want to raise our daughters in a church that doesn’t value young people in our church."

Vicki Gene Robinson doesn't care about raising their daughters, he cares about raising their sons.

5 posted on 07/19/2009 11:47:59 AM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (Obama promised a gold mine, but he will give us the shaft.)
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To: Nosterrex

Remember how the NYT always called George W. Bush INCURIOUS? Sounds like the reporter here was certainly that, because he didn’t check any of the ‘facts’ presented by Gene Robinson. I guess Robinson is just one of those sources who is beyond reproach, unlike, say, ANY Catholic Bishop or Southern Baptist minister.


6 posted on 07/19/2009 12:01:41 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Nosterrex
"We don’t want to raise our daughters in a church that doesn’t value young people in our church."

I thought the UnGodly Bishop had his own daughters that he ditched to fulfill his homosexual lifestyle. Am I confusing him with some other homosexual who tries to maintain his relevance?

7 posted on 07/19/2009 12:21:54 PM PDT by sockmonkey
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To: Nosterrex

I wasn’t confused after all-When Gene and his wife split, their daughters were 8 and 4. He obviously didn’t value those two young people, IMHO.


8 posted on 07/19/2009 12:31:40 PM PDT by sockmonkey
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To: Nosterrex

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a7/Gene_Robinson.jpg/180px-Gene_Robinson.jpg

His sexual orientation was privately acknowledged in the 1970s, when he studied in seminary, was ordained, married, and started a family. He went public with his sexual identity and divorced in the 1980s.

In November 1987, Robinson met his partner, Mark Andrew, while on vacation in St. Croix. Andrew was on vacation and worked in Washington, D.C. at the national office of the Peace Corps. On 2 July 1988, Robinson and Andrew moved into a new house and had it blessed by Bishop Douglas Theuner, an event which they considered to be the formal recognition of their life together. Andrew currently works in the New Hampshire state government. He was legally joined to Robinson in June, 2008, in a private civil union ceremony, followed by a religious ceremony, both in St Paul’s Church, Concord. Earlier, Robinson had said, “I always wanted to be a June bride.”

Due to the controversy surrounding his consecration, Bishop Robinson was not invited to the 2008 Lambeth Conference by the Archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams

The Primate of the Episcopal Church of the Sudan, Archbishop Daniel Deng Bul, on July 22 at a public press conference during the 2008 Lambeth Conference called for Robinson to resign, and for all those who had participated in his consecration to confess their sin to the conference.

In February 2006, Robinson was treated at an inpatient rehabilitation facility to deal with his “increasing dependence on alcohol”.

In 2008, Robinson said that he had led a retreat a few years before for gay Catholic priests.[28] He has opposed the Roman Catholic ban on homosexual seminarians, stating : “I find it so vile that they think they are going to end the child abuse scandal by throwing out homosexuals from seminaries.”

In 2009 Robinson was selected to deliver the invocation at the kickoff event of President Barack Obama’s inaugural weekend. Despite his extended involvement with Obama during the campaign

In April 2009, Robinson made the Out magazine Third Annual Power 50 list of the most influential gay men and women in the USA, landing at number 7

http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:qgMruC1uW-UJ:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_Robinson+Vicki+Gene+Robinson&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us


9 posted on 07/19/2009 12:49:33 PM PDT by kcvl
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The Times of London reports that the president-elect sought out New Hampshire homosexual bishop Vicki Gene Robinson for advice three times during his presidential campaign. Robinson, whose ordination in the Episcopal Church has caused a deep rift within the Anglican Communion, was reportedly sought out by Obama to discuss what it feels like to be “first.”

Robinson notes in their three private conversations, Obama voiced his support for “equal civil rights” for homosexuals and described the election as a “religious experience.” Peter LaBarbera, president of Americans for Truth About Homosexuality, believes Obama’s consultations with Robinson show the true tenor of his upcoming administration.

“It looks like Billy Graham has been replaced by a gay bishop. We’re moving to, perhaps, our first anti-Christian president; it’s beyond post-Christian. Gene Robinson advocates homosexuality as part of the Christian experience,” he explains. “Now Bible-believing Christians cannot accept that. Homosexual practice is sinful, as taught by the scriptures. This man [Obama] pretends to be faithful to Christianity, even as he works very hard to undermine it.”

http://tinyurl.com/lzjox7


10 posted on 07/19/2009 12:53:14 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Nosterrex

“Who are you pulling in?”

“We have received so many Roman Catholics and young families, particularly families who are saying, “We don’t want to raise our daughters in a church that doesn’t value young people in our church.””

Take that you bigoted Catholics!!!


11 posted on 07/19/2009 2:16:40 PM PDT by bronxville
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To: Nosterrex

Glad you aren’t believing the wayward bishop.

Do you think many Episcopalians will leave their churches and come to the Catholic Church with this blessing of same-sex marriages nonsense?


12 posted on 07/19/2009 3:07:31 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: bronxville

Last time the Pope visited the United States, he attracted so many crowds, including young people, that they had to hold the events in outdoor stadiums. The last time Gene Robinson held a conference, did he fill up the ballroom of the local Holiday Inn or even one of the smaller meeting rooms?


13 posted on 07/19/2009 5:17:51 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Salvation

It is difficult to know what the members of the Episcopal church will do. Episcopalians have the worst worship attendance of any church body, and they are very secular and materialistic. The Episcopal Church is somewhere between a country club and a gay bathhouse.


14 posted on 07/19/2009 6:40:04 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: Nosterrex
You must remember that Gene Robinson is a stranger to truth. Seldom do you a statement made by him that is accurate - it is either twisted or an outright lie. For example, his diocese, like all do, keep records from parish to diocese to national office, and it has lost membership.
As I recall the only Diocese which has seen significant growth is South Carolina (coastal) and that Diocese is very traditional (conservative).
15 posted on 07/19/2009 6:46:44 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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Do you think many Episcopalians will leave their churches and come to the Catholic Church

Many already have.

16 posted on 07/19/2009 8:23:55 PM PDT by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed Imposter")
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To: Vigilanteman; All

Sorry, I forgot to include /sar - after my post.


17 posted on 07/20/2009 9:44:06 PM PDT by bronxville
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