Posted on 03/06/2009 9:51:50 AM PST by TaraP
I was thinking of attending there worship. I have admired many of thier teachings on Sabbath Observance Healthy Living, Chatiable Giving and Prophetic teachings. However I am not sure if all thier doctrine is sound.
I understand Ellen G White is the founder of this church In brief, she was a woman of remarkable spiritual gifts who lived most of her life during the nineteenth century (1827-1915), yet through her writings she is still making a revolutionary impact on millions of people around the world.
During her lifetime she wrote more than 5,000 periodical articles and 40 books; but today, including compilations from her 50,000 pages of manuscript, more than 100 titles are available in English. She is the most translated woman writer in the entire history of literature, and the most translated American author of either gender.
Her writings cover a broad range of subjects, including religion, education, social relationships, evangelism, prophecy, publishing, nutrition, and management. Her life-changing masterpiece on successful Christian living, Steps to Christ, has been published in more than 140 languages. Seventh-day Adventists believe that Mrs. White was more than a gifted writer; they believe she was appointed by God as a special messenger to draw the world's attention to the Holy Scriptures and help prepare people for Christ's second advent. From the time she was 17 years old until she died 70 years later, God gave her approximately 2,000 visions and dreams.
Who are the Apostate Churches today? can they easily be recognized?. It is simple to recognize apostate teachings, such as acceptance of homosexuality or teaching another way of salvation other than Jesus Christ, but is there additional teachings of apostate we should be looking for?...If we are not observing the Saturday Sabbath are we apostate? Thoughts on this?
Every SDA I know, and I'm even related to many, are somewhat to the right of Ronald Reagan.
There is no such thing as a half-cult F. As long as they maintain orthodoxy on the Person, Nature and Work of the Father, Son and Spirit, they are considered Christian. If their doctrinal distinctive supersedes the fundamentals of orthodoxy and they become cultic. The degree to which may indicate movement towards being a cult, rather than being heterodox on some issues.
Must be where I live, except I live in a very conservative area. Dunno, really.
” I of course am really conflicted about all the flavors of Christianity.”
Jesus did not come to start a new religion. All religions are man-made. Religion is about rules and regs - rules and regs are about control of the people.
You will get a lot more unadultrated reading from the Bible in the Catholic church than you will in today’s Methodist church. I do not know one way or another about SDA.
I have known many SDA’s, and some know the way of Salvation, some don’t. Of course, I could say the same about Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Lutherans, Prespyterians etc etc.
I was in the army with many SDA’s, and I have known one or two SDA chaplains. In the army, SDA’s pulled duty like KP etc on Sunday, we on Saturday.
My own opinion is that the New Testament does not teach a Saturday worship day. Jesus was raised from the dead on Sunday. The New Testament teaches that any time wqe, as followers of Jesus Christ come together it is right to celebrate communion to “show forth His death ‘til he come”. He shuggested that this be often.
Every day is a Holy day, in my book - the Bible does not teach me otherwise. Keeping the Sabbath was a command that God gave to the Israelites. I do not see that as a command today.
There are others who also teach “keep the Sabbath” (Saturday). There are some Messianic Christians who do so. I do not have a problem with their doing that. The also keep all of the Old Testament Feasts that God ordained, and they also keep Hanukkah, though Hanukkah is a “man ordained” feast, started by Judas Maccabeus and his followers.
If one wants to adhere to Old Testament teaching to the Israelites about the Sabbath, then they probably should also adhere to the teaching about the six God ordained feasts (three in the spring, three in the autumn). And, of course, go to Jerusalem to celebrate these feasts!
Most of them are do gooders. Not that there’s anything wrong with that...
Well I know on friend in particular who is liberal because all her close girlfriends are. Its like she’s afraid of individual thought.
Duh.
Not what I stated but what you inferred.
You believe in water baptism but somehow are ashamed to admit it.
If you want to know about baptism of the spirit the information can be made available to you.
If you don’t...oh well, your choice.
You are not very bright.
Baptism of the Spirit HAPPENS with every valid Baptism.
You really are a very silly person.
God does have a sense of humor, and He will laugh at you for telling HIM who he can let into Heaven!
You dn't know enough about me to state what I belive or don't believe, so don't try.
Do you even know what "hell" in the Bible is? No, I know you have never done the word study...you've not put in the time to look up each and every occurrance so don't even think about stating what you speculate my thoughts are about anyone going there.
If you want to know, ask, but do not assume!
Jesus spoke to people in THERE OWN LANGUAGE, and if you do not know that language, you should first make sure you trust the translator, and also understand that all translations are less than perfect.
Can one be saved without water?
The Bible sure seems to indicate so.
But can one be saved without making Jesus Lord?
I kinda doubt it.
Rom. 10:9-10
Excuse me, but if you claim that my path to salvation is flawed, are you not telling me that I am going to Hell?
One thing follows the other.
You say there’s no difference then you say there’s a difference!!
Hey, you’ve got a theology to defend and that gets in the way of acknowledging the truth. I understand. You’re not the first and certainly won’t be the last.
Truth vs Tradition.....Jesus had a lot to say about that in John now didn’t he?
If we do that, then why is there a resurrection and second coming of Christ?
Kinda pointless isn't it?
You wrote:
“You say there’s no difference then you say there’s a difference!!”
?
“Hey, you’ve got a theology to defend and that gets in the way of acknowledging the truth.”
Nope. The theology is truth.
“I understand. You’re not the first and certainly won’t be the last.”
I’m simply right. In that, I certainly am not the first, nor am I the last.
“Truth vs Tradition.....Jesus had a lot to say about that in John now didn’t he?”
Nope. Jesus was talking about the Jews’ traditions. I’m not Jewish. Paul tells us to hold to the tradition given to us. We do so. You don’t.
If you refuse to read and understand clear scriptures you are in so position to even consider those that might appear ambiguous and won't be humble enough to accept the truth there...small things then big things...you haven't proven faithful in the small yet.
This preacher is not from MY denomination, but I think he has it right:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ai8J39nZ4Ko
Water Baptism sure does not hurt, but I never claimed it was the ONLY way into Heaven.
I think the video, posted here, is correct to say that Baptism is VERY important, VERY helpful.
I think the pastor goes a bit too far in saying it is REQUIRED of all people to have a formal Baptism.
However, The Catholic Church has always held out that God alone could grant the Grace to enter into Heaven without a formal Baptism.
Again, however, what is your point? You are making an argument out of something that is NOT your call!
It hurts absolutely nothing to promote Baptism, water Baptism or otherwise, and the Bible, and Tradition, which are EQUALLY important, support the practice.
Wow...so much error, so little time....
Christ’s teachings were to bring Israel back to the fold...but they rejected him.
Paul taught Gentiles of Christ, those that may have heard of the Jew’s Messiah and those that had not.
So if you think those messages were the same...good for you.
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