Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Humanist Parents Seek Communion Outside Church
Washington Post ^ | December 21, 2008 | Robin Shulman

Posted on 12/23/2008 8:06:22 AM PST by Between the Lines

They are not religious, so they don't go to church. But they are searching for values and rituals with which to raise their children, as well as a community of like-minded people to offer support.

Dozens of parents came together on a recent Saturday to participate in a seminar on humanist parenting and to meet others interested in organizing a kind of nonreligious congregation, complete with regular family activities and ceremonies for births and deaths.

"It's exciting to know that we could be meeting people who we might perhaps raise children with," said Tony Proctor, 39, who owns a wealth management company and attended the seminar at Harvard University with his wife, Andrea, 35, a stay-at-home mother.

Humanism is both a formal movement and an informal identification of people who promote values of reason, compassion and human dignity. Although most humanists are atheists, atheism is defined by what is absent -- belief in God -- and humanists emphasize a positive philosophy of ethical living for the human good.

The seminar's organizers wanted to reach out to people like the Proctors -- first-time parents scrambling for guidance as they improvise how to raise their daughter without the religion of their childhood.

"I'm often told that when people have kids, they go back to religion," said John Figdor, a humanist master's of divinity student who helped organize the seminar. "Are we really not tending our own people?"

Across the country, religious observance hits a low for people in their mid-20s and steadily increases after that, "in conjunction with marriage and children," said Tom Smith, of the General Social Survey at the University of Chicago, which has polled people about religious affiliation and practice for decades.

Religious congregations are good at supporting parenting, said Gregory Epstein

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Current Events; Religion & Culture; Skeptics/Seekers
KEYWORDS: justsad; moralabsolutes
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-24 next last
"Why throw the baby out with the bath water?" Epstein asked.

It seems that they have mistaken the bathwater for the baby and threw out the wrong one.

1 posted on 12/23/2008 8:06:22 AM PST by Between the Lines
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Between the Lines

Aren’t there enough “positive examples” down at the recycling center?


2 posted on 12/23/2008 8:12:16 AM PST by ConservativeMind (What's "Price Gouging"? Should government force us to sell to the 15th highest bidder on eBay?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Between the Lines

The problem is, people like the Proctors are very rare among the “humanist/atheist” movement. I know humanists and atheist will jump in to deny this, but it IS the truth. I really do hope they find a large enough group of like-minded individuals to form a “congregation”, but I doubt they can.


3 posted on 12/23/2008 8:13:23 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Between the Lines

It would appear that the need for the sacred and to worship is ingrained within all of us.

The preacher side of me tends to say “image of God”.


4 posted on 12/23/2008 8:13:53 AM PST by pvoce ('Good' sense and 'Common' sense are two entirely different concepts.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Between the Lines

Sounds like Unitarians.


5 posted on 12/23/2008 8:18:33 AM PST by Lx
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Between the Lines
People should be aware of a very big push coming in this area. NPR had a story of the festival of "Human Light" which is the Humanist winter solstice holiday. It competes with Christmas and Hannukah.

Soon, we will be hearing humanist, humanist, humanist. And all aspects of daily life will have to change to make accomodations for them.

6 posted on 12/23/2008 8:20:04 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: pvoce
It would appear that the need for the sacred and to worship is ingrained within all of us.

I've never had the desire, myself...but I would agree that most people feel such a need.

7 posted on 12/23/2008 8:21:19 AM PST by GL of Sector 2814
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Between the Lines
Good luck to 'em!

I'm not in the kiddie boat, yet, but folks like them are laying the ground work for the future.

I know I'm already going to send my kid(s) to Camp Quest and Space Camp. :)

8 posted on 12/23/2008 8:24:13 AM PST by CE2949BB (Fight.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: WayneS
I really do hope they find a large enough group of like-minded individuals to form a “congregation”, but I doubt they can.
I agree that they probably cannot find like-minded individuals. I suspect that one of the unrecognized motivations of humanists is that the philosophy is all about "ME" and that "I" am the center of the universe. Since there is no place for a deity, there is certainly no place for anyone else.
If these folks are looking for like-minded humanists and want ritual to make them "better" people, they could always go to the Unitarian Universalists or Bhai.
I suspect that deep down inside, the faint whisper of God is telling them that their humanism is a sham and they need to get to know the Creator, hence their search for "church" ritual. This faint whisper will not go away or be silent with ritual. He will only stop knocking at your heart's door your name when you finally open the door and invite Him in....or when you finally become room temperature and meet Him face to face and realize the horrible error of your denial.
9 posted on 12/23/2008 8:28:57 AM PST by TxAg1981
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Between the Lines

When the human spirit, designed by God to yearn for commmunion with Him, desides that he cannot possibly exist and turns inward to the meaningless existance that is found without Him.


10 posted on 12/23/2008 8:38:50 AM PST by 50sDad (On the Left, compassion is measured by intent, not results.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TxAg1981

“Humanist”, what an innocuous yet egalitarian sounding word. The first was Robespierre. He led The Age of Reason in France. Later called The Reign of Terror. It ends with a guillotine.


11 posted on 12/23/2008 8:40:06 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Lx

“Ye shall be like gods”


12 posted on 12/23/2008 9:09:27 AM PST by jackofhearts (Unko bachana kaun chahega (Who will want to save them)??)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: TxAg1981

How very well said,my friend.


13 posted on 12/23/2008 10:52:13 AM PST by georgia peach (georgia peach)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Between the Lines

Why don’t they just become Episcopalians? You don’t have to believe or know anything to be a member of that church, in fact they will even make you a “presiding bishop.”


14 posted on 12/23/2008 2:11:24 PM PST by kaehurowing
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 185JHP; 230FMJ; 50mm; 69ConvertibleFirebird; Aleighanne; Alexander Rubin; ...
Moral Absolutes Ping!

Freepmail wagglebee to subscribe or unsubscribe from the moral absolutes ping list.

FreeRepublic moral absolutes keyword search
[ Add keyword moral absolutes to flag FR articles to this ping list ]

The MSM LOVES this. They love the idea that atheism - of which "humanism" is a branch or subset - should duke it out with theism. It's just as good as - equal to - should have equal time, morphing into - better than - inclusive, not divisive - etc.

It just a promotion of "I am meat, my kids are meat, there is no transcendent meaning or purpose to life, meaning and purpose and right and wrong are whatever you say they are and everyone else should respect that, except we will ultimately viilify all theists" etc etc. They want their atheist view to be the cultural standard, the default, and all religious views to be substandard.

That IS where this is going. Another point that they hide or hide from themselves is this: If there is no absolute truth, no absolute right and wrong, no Supreme Arbiter and Truth maker, then the Big Dog Wins.

PS - check out the Camp Quest linked to above, here's a quote:

Oops - their site is so weird you can't copy and paste!! Anyway, they mention the "separation of religion and government guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States"!!!! That is sick. Not true. What they are basically saying is that any viewpoints, convictions or truths founded or based on religion have no place in any public policy. This is dead wrong, as well as unconstitutional.

15 posted on 12/23/2008 3:26:16 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Between the Lines

Humanist already have their temples: Government K-12 schools.


16 posted on 12/23/2008 3:54:32 PM PST by wintertime
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: wintertime

LOL!


17 posted on 12/23/2008 5:03:01 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: wintertime
Humanist already have their temples: Government K-12 schools.

They also serve as seminaries.

18 posted on 12/23/2008 5:14:51 PM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Homer_J_Simpson

They also serve as seminaries.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Bingo!

Government schools are atheistic Humanist Seminaries.


19 posted on 12/23/2008 5:16:12 PM PST by wintertime
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: Between the Lines

I love the author’s use of the idiotic and oxymorinic “humanist master’s of divinity student”.


20 posted on 12/23/2008 6:33:07 PM PST by Notwithstanding
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-24 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson