Posted on 11/16/2008 12:22:03 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
Since the election I've been asked a number of times to comment on the likelihood that Mr. Obama could be the anti-Christ. Let me begin by saying that having been elected President he's Mr. Obama now, not just Obama. As for him being the anti-Christ I've discouraged that thought because I don't believe it's time for the anti-Christ to be revealed yet. But apart from that there's no Biblical reason I can find that would absolutely disqualify him. And based on the things we know about the anti-Christ there's a fit in several important places. The anti-Christ will have to burst on the scene quickly and powerfully to accomplish so much in the little time he has, so maybe he'll need a head start. If that's the case, maybe Mr. Obama is on his way to becoming the anti-Christ. Let's find out.
We know that the anti-Christ will be a descendant of the people who made up the Roman Empire in Biblical times (Daniel 9:26), and he'll arrive on the world scene as a peace maker (Daniel 8:25). He won't be part of the world's powerful elite at the beginning of his career (Daniel 7:8) but will rise up among them to eventually surpass them and become the leader of the entire world. (Rev. 13:7-8)
He will cause deceit to prosper, and he will consider himself superior. When they feel secure, he will destroy many and take his stand against the Prince of princes. Yet he will be destroyed, but not by human power. (Daniel 8:25)
This means that he'll base his success on a lie, misrepresenting himself and his intentions, but people will want to believe him so badly that they'll disregard his inconsistencies until it's too late to stop him. Initially he'll seem successful, but just when they're saying “Peace and safety”, destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains to a pregnant woman, and they won't escape (1 Thes. 5:3).
Deja Vu All Over Again?
Some of us remember when Jimmy Carter was elected President of the US. The country was fed up with Washington and even though he had no national leadership experience, we elected him because he was an outsider who promised change. He said he would never lie to us, but after the election it turned out that he had. He had misrepresented his background and didn't have the ability he needed when it came to governing. He said he was Christian and even orchestrated a land for peace deal between Israel and Egypt, but he proved to be anti-Israel. Soon we had a crisis in finance with interest rates at 20%, an energy crisis with our first gas shortages, and an administration that didn't know how to work with Congress to fix things. The Iranians captured our embassy and held our citizens hostage. Thankfully he lasted only one term.
Mr. Obama could easily turn out to be just another Jimmy Carter, and if so America will suffer through the next four years and then he'll be gone. But if he continues to be successful in convincing people all around the world that he's on the right track even though everything seems to be falling apart, it could be a different story.
If my calculations are correct, American Christians have just voted in our last presidential elections and won't be here to see if Mr. Obama turns out to be the anti-Christ or not. But someone with a lot more experience in accurately predicting the future has some interesting insight into the next few years. His name is Gerald Celente, CEO of Trends Research Institute, and he's renowned the world over for his accuracy in predicting future world and economic events. He accurately predicted the 1987 Stock market crash, the Fall of the Soviet Union, the 1997 Asian currency collapse, the sub-prime mortgage crisis, and one year before the fact predicted what he said would become known as the Panic of 2008, saying that giants would tumble to their deaths, which is what we've just seen in the fall of several of our oldest and biggest financial firms, and with the big three auto makers teetering on the brink.
(You can check his track record for yourself at www.trendsresearch.com )
Celente is now forecasting revolution in America, food riots and tax rebellions - all within four years, cautioning that putting food on the table will be a more pressing concern than buying Christmas gifts by 2012.
According to his recent Fox News interview, called “Predicting Obama's Impact” (posted on YouTube on Nov. 10, 2008), by 2012 America will have become an undeveloped nation. There will be a revolution marked by food riots, squatter rebellions, tax revolts and job marches, and holidays will be more about obtaining food than gifts.
“We’re going to see the end of the retail Christmas….we’re going to see a fundamental shift take place….putting food on the table is going to be more important that putting gifts under the Christmas tree,” said Celente, adding that the situation would be “worse than the great depression”.
“America’s going to go through a transition the likes of which no one is prepared for,” he said, noting that people’s refusal to acknowledge that America was even in a recession highlights how big a problem denial is in being ready for the true scale of the crisis.
All this comes from a man with an international reputation for being right and whose continued success depends on it. If he's right now like he has been so often in the past, then the next four years will be worse than the Carter Administration ever was, rather than the launching platform for a coming world leader.
(By the way, please take note that this is another independent expert pointing to the year 2012 as one of cataclysmic significance in bringing about the End of the Age.)
There's a wild card that I hesitate to throw in here because I don't even want to think about it. But if it's true it could easily cause the problems that Mr. Celente is predicting. For some time now certain people, Republican and Democrat alike, have been saying that Mr. Obama isn't legally qualified to be President because he's not a natural born citizen of the US. I won't go into the details but the point is that he could make this all go away by producing a legitimate birth certificate, something he's been unwilling to do. A federal court has given him until Dec. 1, 2008 to do so, and if he does then the Electoral College vote will be certified and he'll be the next President. But lawsuits in a dozen or so states have been or are being filed to prevent the certification until Mr. Obama proves he's qualified. If the courts throw out the election who knows what could happen.
What Time Is It?
As many of you know, I've said that all of the End Times prophecies including the 2nd Coming could be fulfilled as early as 2018. I base this on the Lord's promise that the generation being born at the time of the first End Times signs would still be alive when “all these things have happened” (Matt. 24:34) Most scholars view the re-birth of Israel in 1948 as the first of the end times signs. With an average lifespan being 70 years, according to Psalm 90:10, everything will have to come to pass by 2018. If the Rapture only just precedes the 70th Week of Daniel it could come 7 years earlier, in 2011, which is 2 ½ years from now, about half way through Mr. Obama's first term, assuming the election stands.
So here's how to tell if he'll become the anti-Christ or not. If it seems like he can do no wrong, if people feel safe and it's beginning to look like there'll be peace in our time, then there's a good chance he's the one. But if Gerald Celente's predictions are coming to pass, and the world's in worse shape than ever, then he's just another Jimmy Carter, an inexperienced outsider who had no business running for president in the first place, let alone being elected.
Time will tell, but either way we can look for some difficult days ahead for the Church. Because either way we are in the final phase of post-Christian America and can expect the world around us to become more and more anti-Christian. And if the economy continues to self-destruct it will be just that much worse.
But whether Mr. Obama turns out to be the anti-Christ or not is really irrelevant to the Church. Our job in the short time we have left is to get ready to move to our new home. That means breaking our ties with the old one. Anything that can't be put to kingdom use is excess baggage to us now. We should be sending whatever treasure we have up ahead. We should stop worrying about our career, our retirement fund, our lifestyle, and all those other worldly distractions and put all our resources to work for the benefit of our next life. After all it's the real one. And one way or the other, this one is already gone.
Whether you believe in a pre-trib rapture or not you know my advice is sound. After all I'm not just making this up. Everything I 've been saying is straight from the Lord's own mouth. He's the one who said to quit storing up treasure on Earth where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal. He's the one who said to store up treasure in Heaven instead. (Matt. 6:19-20) And He's the one who said not to worry about our lives here but seek first His Kingdom and His righteousness and he'll provide all our needs. (Matt. 6:31-34) So whether you think we're leaving here soon or not, it's time to pay attention to what He's been telling us. No matter how much time you think we have, you can almost hear the footsteps of the Messiah. 11-15-08
No urban myth here - the real deal.
I don't know that he's not, but I also don't know that he doesn't sell crack to minors, molest small rodents or have group sex with his mother-in-law and her sewing circle. Those charges are as plausible as claiming he's the anti-Christ.
Your job would be to prove that he is the anti-Christ. Until then it's safest (and sanest) to assume that Barry O. is just a very slick, mis-informed, garden-variety leftist.
Knowing what I know about Masters, I'm just saying I wouldn't so easily dismiss this possibility, MOST people will not see that he is if he is.
What little I've heard of Masters, I've enjoyed. But if he persists making wild claims like this, he'll ultimately only discredit himself.
He will know the Word as well (or not as well) as Satan did when he tempted Christ in the 40 days in the desert.
He will perform miracles as Satan can do this, that will deceive the whole world into worshiping him as Jesus or God himself.
He will murder those who do not bend the knee.
I am dubious that Obama is the anti Christ, though he may have the “Antichrist spirit” that animates Marxism and Nazism and even IsalmoFascism.
However, he will appear to be Christ and will fool those who do not know the Word in their minds and hearts and spirits. In other words, he will appear to be very religious and only those who have a real relationship with Christ based upon the written Word made Flesh will be able to see through the Satanic Charade.
He will also be ushered in by The False Prophet. So it behooves us now to be able to discern false teaching and false prophecy now. Thus my worry about Mitt Romney and the Mormon church that appear to be Christian but are not, btw. It will be a counterfeit, murderous, eye for an eye counterfeit “religion” that the Anti Christ will lead.
This means that this will be a sect of the Christian or pseudo Christian church itself that this “Man of Sin” will arise from. This is the true meaning of the Joel 2 army that “God promises he will send” against His own people for persecution and purification. The back up to that Joel 2 Scripture is in 2 Thess, I believe, and it says To those who no longer love the truth, I will send a strong Delusion.
In the OT, Isaiah I think, it also says “To those who no longer tremble at My Word.... I will choose their delusions.”
The AntiChrist will seem “Christian” and will present himself as Christ to keep the deluded, deluded and to delude the whole world.
Until Obama shows a real acuity in Bible understanding, I'm only worried for the damage to our system of government now. Worried more about the whole world under delusion when that counterfeit Christian, the “Man of Sin” appears.
The deal is if you know who the Anti-Christ isn’t, then I imagine you will know him when you see him, correct?
Oh yeah, and this is why the Anti Christ’s minions will be killing the saints as they believe “they are killing them for God’. This is what the “great Apostasy” the “End Time Delusion” is all about. Because it will be a one world religious theocracy.
There are 6,000,000,000 in the world today. It's not practical to screen them all.
Be careful about accusing someone of being the anti-Christ. You may just put yourself over the edge.
Kinda like the brainwashed feeling of Obama’s election night fanatics. Only about a million times stronger and religious in feeling.
Devour your bible now...
I didn’t accuse him, I’m merely saying what an established figure said, OTOH I am not so quick to so quickly dismiss that this may be the case considering where we are in history and Obama’s dark associations coupled with his easy and sudden rise onto the world scene out of relative obscurity.
He will know the Word as well (or not as well) as Satan did when he tempted Christ in the 40 days in the desert.
HOW DO YOU KNOW O DOESN’T?
He will perform miracles as Satan can do this, that will deceive the whole world into worshiping him as Jesus or God himself.
WHAT CONSTITUTES A MIRACLE? RISING UP SO FAST AND DEFEATING THE CLINTONS WAS A MIRACLE.
He will murder those who do not bend the knee.
250,000 CIVILIAN SECURITY FORCE AS POWERFUL AS THE ARMY. WONDER WHAT THEIR JOB WILL BE.
However, he will appear to be Christ and will fool those who do not know the Word in their minds and hearts and spirits. In other words, he will appear to be very religious and only those who have a real relationship with Christ based upon the written Word made Flesh will be able to see through the Satanic Charade.
I THANK GOD I CAN SEE. I KNOW MANY PEOPLE WHO GET ANGRY WHEN YOU SAY HE’S NOT CHRISTIAN. ONE OF THEM IS AN ANTHIEST.
He will also be ushered in by The False Prophet.
COULD W OR THE CLINTONS BE FALSE PROPHETS?
This means that this will be a sect of the Christian or pseudo Christian church itself that this “Man of Sin” will arise from.
SOUNDS EXACTLY LIKE OBAMA’S BRAND OF CHRISTIANITY.
THIS GUY IS A MUSLIM WHO CLAIMS TO BE A CHRISTIAN.
Am I convinced he’s the anti-christ? Only about 99%
His name is Barack Hussein Obama, and his job title is PINO.
I’m with you but Obama doesn’t seem to know his Old from New Testament.
We will see a supernatural miracle that the Anti Christ will appear to be killed and come back from the dead. This will trick the whole world into believing he is Jesus, as Jesus did come back from the dead. How many people do you know that would NOT believe this was God with a miracle like that?
Why it’s important to read the Bible and understand and believe it now. It says that Satan can perform miracles, too.
Unless of course, he turns out to be correct.
Then, his credibility and discrediting himself really wont matter all that much, right?
How many people do you know that would NOT believe this was God with a miracle like that?
57,000,000 voted against him. I hope their eyes would all be opened. As for the 65,000,000 who voted for him, they already think he’s a god.
Anti-christ will be a Jew!
2 years ago when I was still in school my Pastor said that he predicted that Jesus whould come in 2012. And ever seance then i’ve done research and for some reason every END prediction is in 2012. I dont like this I’m only 19 I have a gf and i was thinking about engaging her. But its getting scary for what every one is saying. I don’t want to leave this earth till i have children. But I don’t want my children to have to live in the time of the A-C.
Let the Lord be your guide my FRiend.
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