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Theological Word Of The Day: Abecedarians
TWOTD ^ | November 11, 2008

Posted on 11/11/2008 8:13:37 AM PST by Gamecock

Abecedarians

A 16th century German sect of Anabaptists led by Nicholas Storch who believed that all knowledge, even knowledge of the alphabet, prevents people from a true knowledge of God. Abecedarians believed that God would provide all necessary understanding through divine means such as visions and ecstatic experiences. According to them, all theology and “academic” learning amounted to an idolatrous abandonment of the Christian faith. Their name, Abecedarians, comes from their denial of the ABCs.


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1 posted on 11/11/2008 8:13:37 AM PST by Gamecock
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To: Gamecock
Nicholas Storch who believed that all knowledge, even knowledge of the alphabet, prevents people from a true knowledge of God.

Perhaps this was not too well thought out, not enough data? Couldn't resist.

2 posted on 11/11/2008 8:18:49 AM PST by JimSEA
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3 posted on 11/11/2008 8:19:17 AM PST by Gamecock ("...Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and folly to Gentiles" and both to Americans.)
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To: Gamecock

sounds like the obamamanians to me....any knowledge ouside their “cone of silence” is bad


4 posted on 11/11/2008 8:20:09 AM PST by HappyinAZ
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To: Gamecock

They were outdone by the Anaanaanaludarians who believed that KNOWING THAT KNOWING that knowledge, even knowledge of the alphabet, prevents people from a true knowledge of God.

Of course, the Anaanaanaludarians were outdone by the Anaanabananaludarians who believed that knowing that knowing that knowing that knowledge . . . .


5 posted on 11/11/2008 8:21:33 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (A Jew voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders.)
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To: Gamecock
Abecedarians believed that God would provide all necessary understanding through divine means such as visions and ecstatic experiences.

Now, the know-nothings just tune into MSNBC for ecstatic visions, sports scores and erectile disfunction ads.

6 posted on 11/11/2008 8:22:59 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Gamecock

A B C D E rians?

So wouldn’t knowing their theology be knowledge preventing God from intervention? Wouldn’t knowing one’s name? How to hunt, fish, gather, eat, cook?

It’s always nice to have easily identified, certified nutcases in your sights. It makes it so much easier to pull the trigger.


7 posted on 11/11/2008 8:23:24 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain Pro Deo et Patria)
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To: Gamecock

"I know NOOOOOTHING!"

8 posted on 11/11/2008 8:26:20 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Gamecock

Craziness abounds in religion, it seems.


9 posted on 11/11/2008 8:30:57 AM PST by Quix (GLOBALIST PLANS FM 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: Gamecock
A 16th century German sect of Anabaptists led by Nicholas Storch who believed that all knowledge, even knowledge of the alphabet, prevents people from a true knowledge of God. Abecedarians believed that God would provide all necessary understanding through divine means such as visions and ecstatic experiences.

The Methodists, who boasted of some margin of learning over the Baptists (though hardly enough, it would seem, to boast about) took digs at their ignorance. They gave one definition of a Methodist as "a Baptist who has learned to read and write."
- Bible In Pocket, Gun In Hand: The Story of Frontier Religion
by Ross Phares, Bison Books, page 122.

10 posted on 11/11/2008 8:32:21 AM PST by Alex Murphy ( "Every country has the government it deserves" - Joseph Marie de Maistre)
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To: Gamecock

Isn’t the knowledge of no-knowledge also knowledge? Wouldn’t this be self-defeating? Because it seems that I would be better off not knowing that not knowing is good. But once I know that not knowing is good, I am bad, because I know it. Ergo, the Abecedarians would go to hell by their own logic!

-Theo


11 posted on 11/11/2008 8:40:07 AM PST by Teófilo (Visit Vivificat! - http://www.vivificat.org - A Catholic Blog of News, Commentary and Opinion)
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BOMB #20: In the beginning there was darkness, and the darkness was without form and void.
And in addition to the darkness there was also me.
And I moved upon the face of the darkness.
And I saw that I was alone.

Let there be light.

12 posted on 11/11/2008 8:50:06 AM PST by Alex Murphy ( "Every country has the government it deserves" - Joseph Marie de Maistre)
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To: Gamecock

Sounds fishy to me. Would 16th century Germans use the actual words A B C as we pronounce them in English? And, in the 16th century was learning your ABC’s such a priority? I don’t think so and somehow I doubt that anyone in the 16th century would name a group after the English alphabet in order to call attention to their lack of education.

I could be wrong, but the whole thing seems suspect to me. Are there any sources for this? It doesn’t seem to jive with what I know about the 16th century.


13 posted on 11/11/2008 9:03:36 AM PST by auntyfemenist (How many times do the words Islam and terror have to be used together in the same sentence?)
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To: Gamecock

Damn, all those taught in St. Louis public schools must be Abecedarians. And I always thought they were simply uneducated!


14 posted on 11/11/2008 11:00:29 AM PST by Dionysius (Jingoism is no vice.)
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To: auntyfemenist

Google: Abecedarian German

11,000+ results. One may satisfy your curiosity.


15 posted on 11/11/2008 12:27:54 PM PST by Gamecock ("...Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and folly to Gentiles" and both to Americans.)
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To: Gamecock

Now this one I had not heard!

Thanks.


16 posted on 11/11/2008 12:37:04 PM PST by bperiwinkle7 ( In the beginning was the WORD................)
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To: Gamecock

I don’t know if I’m a bad person for this... but I laughed ou loud when I read the TWOTD today.


17 posted on 11/11/2008 2:32:39 PM PST by raynearhood ("As for you, when wide awake you are asleep, and asleep when you write..." - Jerome)
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To: Gamecock
Abecedarians believed that God would provide all necessary understanding through divine means such as visions and ecstatic experiences.

Ah, those wacky enthusiasts!

Nicholas Storch

Ancestral to:?


18 posted on 11/11/2008 5:10:16 PM PST by Lee N. Field (In five years noone will admit to voting for Obama.)
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To: Gamecock

ANABAPTISTS

Protestant groups that appeared at Zwickau in Switzerland as early as 1521. Their principal tenets were that: 1. the baptism of infants unbiblical, 2. only adults should be baptized as a sign of Christian belief, 3. primitive Christianity should be restored, notable through the abolition of oaths, capital punishment, and the magistracy, 4. a new kingdom of God on communitarian grounds should be founded. The Anabaptists principles were later adopted by the Baptists, their lineal descendants.

All items in this dictionary are from Fr. John Hardon's Modern Catholic Dictionary, © Eternal Life. Used with permission.

19 posted on 11/11/2008 5:22:24 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Gamecock

No “Abecedarians” in the Catholic Dictionary.


20 posted on 11/11/2008 5:24:17 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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