Posted on 11/02/2008 9:37:19 PM PST by Alex Murphy
Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- Barack Obama tried speaking their language and made repeated overtures to active church-going American voters during the election. Yet, the latest Gallup poll shows them backing John McCain in similar levels as prior presidential elections and abortion appears to be the reason why.
Obama has talked about reducing abortions, but the most active Catholic and evangelical voters didn't buy the rhetoric it appears.
The apparently got the message that Obama supports unlimited abortions throughout pregnancy, wants abortions paid for with taxpayer funds, and favors a bill that would overturn pro-life laws and measures that reduce abortions nationwide.
A new Gallup poll finds Obama supported by just 28 percent of those voters who attend church on a weekly basis. That's a one percent drop from the 29 percent of those voters -- who make up one-third of the American electorate -- that John Kerry captured in the 2004 election and Al Gore won in 2000.
Pollster John Green of the Pew Forum calls the fact that pro-abortion candidates fail to win even 30 percent of the most religious voters in America a "religion gap."
Why did Obama fail to convert more pro-life religious voters to his side? Abortion appears to be the answer.
The religious forum at Saddleback Church revealed some of the biggest divides between Obama and McCain. While Obama said knowing when human life begins was "above my pay grade," Senator McCain clearly articulated a pro-life position on abortion and said his administration would reflect pro-life values.
Richard Land, a Baptist leader, told Politico that abortion was the central reason behind Obama's failure to capture pro-life voters -- despite the efforts of groups like Catholics United and the Matthew 25 Network to hide his pro-abortion views.
“It’s abortion,” Land explained.
“I think pro-choice people in this culture have absolutely no idea of the depth and intensity of the moral outrage of the people who are pro-life," he said. “They think that conservatives use it only as a wedge issue.”
Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, told the political web site he agreed.
“There is no other way to explain it than Obama’s position on the issues, particularly the issue of life,”
Still, McCain needs to continue reaching out to pro-life religious voters in the final days of the campaign as Gallup shows him getting 65 percent of the weekly church-going vote compared with the 71 percent President Bush received in 2004.
If McCain can close the gap, thanks in part to pro-life voter education efforts this weekend, he may be able to solidify his hold on some of the battleground states and gain in places like Pennsylvania, Virginia and Florida -- must-win states for him to capture the election.
...also because he’s a Muslim.
I guess they didn't get around to polling people at my church; never in my life had I been surrounded with so many Christians sporting 0bama T Shirts, buttons and pins. The church parking lot also had quite a few cars with 0bama bumper stickers, and some with placards and flags.
Those of us who are renegade McCain supporters dared not wear any pins, buttons, shirts, or sported any bumper stickers for fear of our very lives.
...You also have to keep in mind I live in California and attend a predominately Black church.
Abortion = anti-life
Obama wont protect the tiniest of us...
Even AFTER birth...
He cannot be trusted to care about the rest of us...
Plus only the lowest of the low would push abortion...
I hope that more voters are learning the truth about Obama's abortion extremism. My mom, who gets all her news from network news and the newspaper, had no idea Obama was even pro-abortion until I told her last week. I think this unfortunately is probably the case with many voters, since the mainstream meida has virtually ignored the issue.
Muslims aren’t supposed to engage in abortions any more than Christians are.
Someone please explain to me why exactly Obama so strongly wants everyone to get an abortion. You’d think he’d oppose it, since the majority of abortions are in black and Hispanic communities—minority babies who are being killed in high numbers. Is there any logical reason apart from pure evil? I mean, how does that help socialism take over, or give him more power?
"A great charge will come down upon the shepherds of my flocks ... against those who did not vote for Life, when the choice between sin and righteousness has been placed so clearly before you. A great price will come down to be paid, not only for the choice the leaders personally make, but also upon them for not instructing their flocks to stand with My holiness and with My word on this matter.
Every one, who has been entrusted with leadership in any form will be charged this price for indifference to Me, expressed in their silence. There is no option of refusing to cast a vote. Lukewarm is always rejected by Me. Men have tried to proclaim this Election to be a matter of color. I too have declared it as such, but not one of skin color. The color I see in this Election is red. I see the blood of the innocent, shed for human convenience and prosperity, and I am filled with grief and anger.
For each one who makes a choice with a vote to support the murder of the innocent in the womb ... for each one who casts a vote in favor of one who will legislate rebellion against My commanded order for the covenant between a man and a woman ... for each one of these violations and for others against My holiness ... legislating against the life and the truth I have entrusted to you ... a great opportunity for destruction will now come.
Each person who votes for the prosperity of abortion death, will open a great door into his home, into his life, and into his family for the spirit of Death to enter in freely. Death will come in many forms, and it will not be turned back from those who made a covenant of acceptance with it, through their vote. Hear Me ... this thing will be of your own doing, and these consequences in death will come to you by your own choice, because of your alliance with Death, made against my decree for Life. You have asked for guidance and for My heart, but so many have cast it aside to worship at their own altar of prideful intellectualism, materialism, and freedom.
This Election will be like no other election to this day. My patience has been expended concerning this matter. This is an election of Life and Death; affecting not only nations, but also individuals who have claimed to know Me within those nations. Choose this day who is your authority. Choose this day whose word is truth. By your vote you will declare it. By your vote, either I will protect you, or I will step back to allow that which you have chosen to defend with your freedom and vote, to come upon you. Truly I say to you, choose Life!"
KJV:Joshua
{24:15} And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.
KJV:Deuteronomy
{30:19} I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:
Catholic here. None at my Church - I wish here had been cuz I was ready to give them the what for...
Many, many, many African-American Christians are not drinking the poison.
| Over 100 Bishops Have Spoken Out on Priority of Life Issues Posted on October 28, 2008, 11:59 AM | Deal W. Hudson |
And look how he ignores the less fortunate in his own family.
Half-brother living in a focking hut on 20 bucks a year?
Illegal alien half aunt living in the Boston slums for at least 12 years?
There are lot of Obama supporters at my kids’ private Christian schools and there are some at my church.
Also have church going neighbors that are voting for Obama. Our next door neighbor is in the reserved and went to Iraq, and he and his wife are going for Obama. Of course, he is a principal and she is a teacher in public school. Heard him saying McCain was too old.
oBAMma won’t win. Soon we will be rid of Obongo’s brother.
Here are the under-reported reasons I have collected why McPalin will win from visiting FR way too much.
0) NEW!!! “Coalgate” http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2123235/posts
1) ACORN has been stuffing the Democratic registration lists for years now, especially this year. Pollsters use these stuffed registered-voter lists to poll real people, so if the lists read 60%D, 40%R, the pollster will poll 60 Ds for every 40 Rs. If every D were for Obama and every R were for McCain, Obama ought to be ahead by 20 points in the polls He’s not! Ergo, McCain is actually ahead and doesn’t know it!
2) The press (AP, MSNBC, NYT) is starting to turn on Obama. They see what’s happening in the early returns. Please see http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2119327/posts and http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2119299/posts and http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2123219/posts
3) If you have not considered that Democratic Presidential campaigns would try to browbeat you into thinking that a Democrat win was inevitable, and that you should side with “history,” and vote with everyone, please read http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2117212/posts
4) According to http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2118129/posts, McCain is polling evenly in early voting exit polls in a county that has 28% more Democrats. Repeat: DEMOCRATS ARE VOTING McPALIN!!!
5) Oh yeah, the “Joe the Plumber” video isn’t the only time Obama has let fly with his “spread the wealth” worldview. He blabbed about it profusely in 2001 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2116921/posts
6) “Polls” that show Obama ahead tell a different story when internals are studied. Please see http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/14/an-eeyore-free-zone for a primer on how polls are cooked. UPDATE: Rasmussen saying McCain ahead in Florida and Ohio.
And now, a brief history lesson of ACTUAL ELECTION RESULTS:
1980: Reagan 50.75%, Carter 41%, (+9.75 Reagan) Reagan won 45 states.
1984: Regan 58.77%, Mondale 40.56% (+18.21 Regan) Reagan won 49 states.
1988: Bush 53.37%, Dukakis 45.65% (+7.72 Bush) Bush won 42 states.
1992: Clinton 43.01%, Bush 37.45%, Perot 18.91% (+5.66% Clinton) Clinton won 30 states.
1996: Clinton 49.23%, Dole 40.72%, Perot 8.40% (+8.49% Clinton) Clinton won 31 states.
2000: Bush 47.87%, Gore 48.38% (Gore +0.49%) Bush won 30 states.
2004: Bush 50.73%, Kerry 48.27% (Bush +2.46%) Bush won 31 states.
NO WAY was Obama ever up 14 points! He won’t even break 49%.
7) Hillary and Bill are not acting like they want Obama to win, since she wants to run again in 2012, despite what she alludes to. Notice Hillary has not gotten Berg to cut it out with his “birth certificate” lawsuit.
8) “Hussein” being Obama’s middle name is still news to most people.
9) A picture of Obama dressed as a Muslim (there are at least three) is still worth 1000 words (3000 in this case). Man your email station! Post bills!
10) The PUMAs who know the hows and whys of Hillary getting cheated, will vote Palin, and will pull others. Check out http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=33711&page=3 and http://democrats-against-obama.org. Freeper lonestar67 says, “Surveys have suggested that as many as 20-30% of Democrats may vote for McCain based on the rejection of Hillary. If even fractions of these claims are true, Obama would be hard pressed to win the election— especially in key states such as Pennsylvania and Ohio.”
11) “[Bitter Clingers] to [Religion and Guns]”, will vote McCain, so much so that 22K of the 45K in Grand Junction, Colorado came out to see her http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2110920/posts.
12) The Palins ARE America and the conservative base. America and the conservative base will vote accordingly. According to http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2106836/posts parts of the country that were not fired up about the election, are working for Palin. She draws THOUSANDS at every campaign stop.
13) The NRA has “8 figures” of ads to unload in “swing” states
14) At one point, Obama was only 5 points up in New York! New York!
15) The Democrats were talking about Democratic consultants freaking out over Obama mis-managing his campaign before they settled into poll alteration.
16) The Enemedia is already spreading the meme that if Obama loses, it “is racism”. They see the tea leaves ...
17) The Media was calling the election for Kerry ELECTION MORNING in 2004, and Carter and Reagan polled evenly on election day! SOMEONE is trying to buffalo us with these polls! For more on the history of polls leaning Democrat, please see http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2106669/posts Both Zogby and Mike McCurry predicted a Kerry win.
18) McCain has only started to play the Ayers card. McCain has not yet played the Tony Rezko, Odinga, ... more at http://www.barackbook.com
19) Plenty of long-time Democratic voters are http://thehill.com/dick-morris/undecideds-should-break-for-mccain-2008-10-28.html Long time Democrat votesrs are unimpressed with Obama, and will not vote for him. Two midwestern transplants have volunteered to me that they know lifelong Democrats who WILL NOT vote for Obama. The 1st hand accounts here on Free Republic about lack of enthusiasm for Obama relative to Kerry similarly bodes poorly for Obama.
20) Obama has only 75% of the Jewish vote last I checked, just like Kerry (comfortable R win). Gore got 90% (close R win). Please see http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/05/obama_and_the_jewish_vote.php and http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08293/921167-470.stm
21) The Christian base that re-elected Bush in 2004, knows Sarah is more than a Sunday Christian, and is praying for her.
22) McCain opened 50 offices in California. It’s in play! It should be the bluest of the blue, and it is not.
23) Google “Bradley Effect”. Obama is getting poll votes he’ll never get on election day. PUMAs have also agreed to lie to pollsters about supporting Obama, and are encouraging others to do so.
24) Operation Chaos resulted in an overlarge quantity of Democrat registrations that will never ever vote Democratic.
25) Obama’s “spread the wealth” line to Joe the Plumber will cost him undecideds not ready to etch the current class structure in stone.
26) The Enemedia overstating Obama’s popularity will cut two ways. The lazy, and the youth, (core Democrat constituencies) will not brave traffic and lines to vote on election day, since they were lied to by the KGBMedia to believe that Obama has a gigantic lead. In fact, if I worked for the GOP, I’d make sure free beer/music parties were being held outside of every major blue city before/on election day. They’re called “raves”.
27) There is a group playing Jeremiah Wrights ads. Read more about it http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2108462/posts, and to donate visit https://www.completecampaigns.com/FR/contribute.asp?campaignid=OCDBPac.
28) The Obama crew already knows they’re going to lose. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2110803/posts and http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2103037/posts
29) Kerry won the Nickelodeon kids vote 57/43, and Obama won it 51/49! If you don’t think kids vote like their parents, then you got another thing coming! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2110843/posts
30) Freeper lonestar67 says, “... the misogynist treatment of Palin by the media elite has provided additional elements to the coming silent backlash— especially among women.”
31) Three people over 50 (white male and two Mexican women), on two occasions, on October 25th, asked me if I know about Obama not being a citizen. My Dad knows, and he emailed all his friends also. Point being, EVERYBODY KNOWS that Obama ain’t benevolently and humbly forthcoming with his birth certificate, and thus something fishy is afoot in Camelot.
32) Obama will get 1% less Evangelical votes than Kerry did. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2123218/posts
33) Polls are meant by the Enemedia, to SHAPE public opinion, not to accurately report it. Get your news here! Stop torturing yourself! We bring the liberal media lies here, and we dissect them through the lenses of Christianity and Conservatism.
Make sure you ...
1) campaign and/or pray and/or donate
2) vote
3) wear the gracious smile of a victor
Fellow Freepers, please feel free to post this list every time you see a Freeper or anyone feeling down, anywhere. No need to credit me or ping or write me.
Let me know if you have any other under-reported reasons for the coming McCain/Palin win.
Please tell me if you think there are mistakes.
Hey Obama supporters!! Taxes kill businesses, which kills jobs, which kills people.
I hope your right. I’ve been praying about the election.
He’s a wolf in sheep’s clothing and a lot of people see right through him.
The first countries in the world to adopt a program of birth control and easy abortion were the socialist countries. Socialism is opposed to both the traditional family and the Church because each is a rival of the predominance of the state. Feminist is a socialist movement. When Castro took over Cuba, he pushed the feminist agenda. Within ten years, the number of abortions began to rise and women stopped getting married. Children are sent to dare-car facilities and the State becomes the only father the child knows, and even the mother becomes a distant figure. The culture, of course, fights this and so my image is only imperfectly realized. But it is the ideal. Here in this country we see the same trend: Obama’s children are sent to expensive schools which more or less take the place of working mother and father. So we see a kind of socialism of the upper crust, which unfortunately is more and more the norm.
Especially since most of these people will put political party and Union affiliation before principle.
Should 0bama win (Heaven forbid), I feel like my fellow Conservative Republican friend at church who says she does not want to stand before the Lord explaining why she contributed to the decline of our culture and society.
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