Posted on 07/02/2008 3:28:00 AM PDT by Gamecock
>>Why did you choose to post that specific news story on this particular day?<<
I can answer.
I just told this to another poster who wrote me on a PM to chastise ME!
This article is a perfect example of Anti-Catholic Obsessive Compulsive Disorder.
Nothing a little Zoloft won’t cure. Although I think they’re favoring Paxil these days.
Get over it. Rome is part of the Earth. Everything on Earth will be consumed. The fact (your guess is wrong) that Rome (and Chicago) burned years ago means nothing regarding the judgment of the Lord that will be the consuming fire.
The RCC was not founded by the Lord - that’s a fairy tale from the RCC founders. Peter was not a pope - that office was invented by the politicians who were in cahoots with the Roman bishops of the 4th century.
Regarding the salvation of the elect, I refer you to the words of Christ, recorded in Matthew 24:29 -31 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: “And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.”
Reconcile with Christ, not Calvin. Read the Word of God, not the words of man.
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So you have to be particularly nasty to prove your loyalty, right?
I know it's hard to be surrounded by "co-religionists" with whom one has absolutely nothing in common (I was there once). Looks like the two of us handled it in opposite ways.
You've given us a few examples in the past days of the kinds of websites where you learn garbage like this.
Oh, and all the non-Protestant "minorities" who scream bloody murder every time they find a tract under their windshield wiper aren't? But then, as with Blacks and whites, prejudice is always a one-way phenomenon, and only Protestants can ever be guilty, right?
The article is from some time ago. The motivation and the history of the poster are obviously clear. You didn’t seem to sensitive about that, even jumping on the hit parade.
As I said, I've been behaving myself. But making fun of people for using King James English? That sounds like Obama. Do you also advocate calling people names like "Cletus" and referring to Protestant churches as "Billy Bob's Glory Barn?" I suppose if you do that enough times the liberal urban Irish may eventually grow to accept you as a "real Catholic."
We both handled it exactly the same. You from the attack mode and me from the counter attack mode.
You completely misunderstood what I was talking about. I was not referring to this thread at all. I meant both you and I are rednecks who converted to Catholicism. We both found ourselves fish out of water. I handled it by getting out, while you apparently handle it by aiming barbs at "rednecks" so you can be a "good Catholic."
While Wikipedia is of course hardly a sound source of information, my own personal experience confirms the following quote from that source:
However, a Zogby poll of American Catholics showed Catholics having a more hostile attitude toward Fundamentalist Evangelical Protestants than to any non-Christian religion.
It's hardly a crime to dislike someone who dislikes you.
If you believe that post to be personal, please delete it. Here is the content of that post without my assumptions of the person who initiated the thread.
“So you have to be particularly nasty to prove your loyalty, right?”
LOL, I think you are a very sensitive person.
1. The article is from some time ago. You didn’t seem too sensitive about a dated article being posted, even jumping on the hit parade.
2. Your words: “The Catholic Church is rotting...”
...Doeth protest too much - I’ll take you seriously when you are objective in your indignation. We both handled it exactly the same. You from the attack mode and me from the counter attack mode.
Canonization is infallible, but the judgment of Pope John XXIII on this is not.
Then why do you single out Rome?
Oh yeah, I forgot, accoring to YOPIOS and sola Spurgeon Catholics are not Saved.
Reading the mind of another poster is a form of "making it personal."
Thus spaketh Spurgeon.
Well, if you want to look at the Gospel of Saint Matthew, why don't you take a look at the next chapter (just a hint, it describes WORKS):
31 And when the Son of man shall come in his majesty, and all the angels with him, then shall he sit upon the seat of his majesty. 32 And all nations shall be gathered together before him, and he shall separate them one from another, as the shepherd separateth the sheep from the goats: 33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on his left. 34 Then shall the king say to them that shall be on his right hand: Come, ye blessed of my Father, possess you the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 35 For I was hungry, and you gave me to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me to drink; I was a stranger, and you took me in:
36 Naked, and you covered me: sick, and you visited me: I was in prison, and you came to me. 37 Then shall the just answer him, saying: Lord, when did we see thee hungry, and fed thee; thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38 And when did we see thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and covered thee? 39 Or when did we see thee sick or in prison, and came to thee? 40 And the king answering, shall say to them: Amen I say to you, as long as you did it to one of these my least brethren, you did it to me.
41 Then he shall say to them also that shall be on his left hand: Depart from me, you cursed, into everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry, and you gave me not to eat: I was thirsty, and you gave me not to drink. 43 I was a stranger, and you took me not in: naked, and you covered me not: sick and in prison, and you did not visit me. 44 Then they also shall answer him, saying: Lord, when did we see thee hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister to thee? 45 Then he shall answer them, saying: Amen I say to you, as long as you did it not to one of these least, neither did you do it to me.
46 And these shall go into everlasting punishment: but the just, into life everlasting.
Matthew 25:31-46
Reconcile with Christ, not Calvin. Read the Word of God, not the words of man.
If you were under ANY illusion that I was planning to reconcile myself with Calvin you are very mistaken.
You completely misunderstood
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
Reading the mind of another poster is a form of "making it personal."
Excuse me, but I read no one's mind. I remarked in a previous post that rbmillerjr had found ourselves in the same situation and handled it differently. I was referring to the fact that we are both rednecks who converted to Catholicism, but he plainly misunderstood and thought I was claiming that he and I had responded differently to the discussion on this thread. His response to me makes that obvious and not at all a guess on my part.
” I handled it by getting out, while you apparently handle it by aiming barbs at “rednecks” so you can be a “good Catholic.””
That is a factual lie. I never called anybody a redneck. I jokingly referred to myself as a redneck....Your use of “apparently” indicates you can read my mind, although you didn’t take the time to see that your premise is wrong.
The verse derisively used as the foundation for the RC acronym “YPOIOS” apparently is 2 Peter 1:20. Taken in context, it’s clear that Peter is speaking to the church about those who claim to be apostles, claiming to have written scripture. There were many people running around claiming to be Christ and claiming to be an Apostle of Christ, putting forth their doctrine as that of the Lord. Such is what Peter was warning about. The RCC has twisted this Scripture - as it has done with so many others - into meaning that only the select group of RCC appointed men can understand Scripture. This is totally contrary to the Biblical instruction to believers to be students of the Word (2 Tim 2:15 “Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.”)
Now then, you fall into the same error that you throw at reformed Christians - claiming to know what another thinks. This is “making it personal”, according to the rules of this forum. As for me, I have never made a categorical statement that RCs are not Christians - just as I have never made such statement about all Baptists being Christians; both statements are too broad and arrogant to be considered.
People get saved in spite of their religious training, not because of it.
As for Rome, I mentioned it because it’s contextually relevant to any discussion with an RC. There appears to be considerable obeisance by RCs toward Rome, just as there was by pagans towards Babylon many years ago.
yawn
I never said you called anyone a redneck. I refer to your piling on the FR "Bible-thumpers." Your self-description as a "redneck former Protestant" certainly helps to explain your zeal in this little crusade.
I'm getting tired of this. If you want the Religion Moderator to ban me or delete my posts, just ask him/her to do this. There is no need to threaten or bully.
It's amazing to me that it's perfectly inoffensive on FR to criticize the hypocrisy of Blacks and Jews who see "bigotry" as coming only from whites and chr*stians but to point out that the American Catholic attitude towards Fundamentalist Protestants (the core constituency of American conservatism) is exactly the same is somehow "offensive." But no matter. It remains true, whoever doesn't like to be reminded of it.
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