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DR. PUSEY ON THE WORSHIP OF MARY IN THE CHURCH OF ROME
Sword and the Trowel ^ | 1866 | Charles Spurgeon

Posted on 05/14/2008 10:16:49 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg

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1 posted on 05/14/2008 10:16:49 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg
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To: drstevej; OrthodoxPresbyterian; CCWoody; Wrigley; Gamecock; Jean Chauvin; jboot; AZhardliner; ...
Please note the date of this article -- 1866.

Seems that very little has changed in over a century.

In fact, I was stunned to realize that "Mary as co-redeemer" is not a recent fiction, but has been around quite awhile, as the article states.

2 posted on 05/14/2008 10:22:17 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

This thread title sounds like an underground movie from the sixties.


3 posted on 05/14/2008 10:26:35 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Barack Obama is a secret Wright-winger)
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To: L.N. Smithee
LOL. (Not that there's anything wrong with that.)

8~)

4 posted on 05/14/2008 10:28:28 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: L.N. Smithee

Respect


5 posted on 05/14/2008 10:29:19 PM PDT by allmost
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Hundreds of millions of moozies want to decapitate us and you are having a go at the Catholics????


6 posted on 05/14/2008 10:29:26 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: Aussie Dasher

2 distract da moozies.


7 posted on 05/14/2008 10:32:25 PM PDT by allmost
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To: Aussie Dasher

Heh, if you’re new to the debate, pull up a chair and settle in.


8 posted on 05/14/2008 10:35:09 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

***Please note the date of this article — 1866.***

I didn’t know Free Republic was around then :>)


9 posted on 05/14/2008 10:36:12 PM PDT by irishtenor (Check out my blog at http://boompa53.blogspot.com/)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Mate, I wish I had time. Sounds like a ripper. One of those that leaves millions dead in its wake...


10 posted on 05/14/2008 10:37:47 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: Aussie Dasher
What "millions are dead in its wake?"

Are you speaking about the hundreds of thousands slaughtered during the Inquisition?

11 posted on 05/14/2008 10:40:15 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Are they the moozies who started it?


12 posted on 05/14/2008 10:57:28 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; fortheDeclaration

I can only shake my head and remember what FTD said to me: they do admit that they worship the virgin Mary, they just won’t admit that it’s wrong.


13 posted on 05/14/2008 11:17:30 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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This Southern Baptist has got to go with Dasher on this one.

Dr. Eckleburg, have you ever asked any Catholics if they worship Mary? I have. And while I can’t speak for Catholics everywhere, here in the South they get offended at that question and emphatically deny that they worship Mary.

Now yeah, Catholics have this wierd custom of asking dead saints to intercede on their behalf, that is supposed to be no different than going to a live saint and asking for their intercessory prayer. And I think it’s wierd, only because I don’t believe a dead saint can hear them unless the Holy Spirit passes the prayer along. So that boils down to asking God to tell Saint Joe that you want Saint Joe to ask God about something. Wierd, but otherwise harmless.


14 posted on 05/14/2008 11:18:26 PM PDT by DannyTN
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***Mary is in the Eucharist***

I didn’t know that. One can learn so much on FR!


15 posted on 05/14/2008 11:22:08 PM PDT by Gamecock (The question is not, “Am I good enough to be a Christian?” rather “Am I good enough not to be?")
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To: DannyTN
There is a movement afoot in the RCC to name Mary as the "co-redeemer" and the "dispensatrix of all grace."

Pope John Pual II referred to Mary as the "co-redeemer" six times in public speeches.

This is the religion forum. Religion issues are discussed. Do you believe titling Mary as the "Co-Redeemer" is the correct Biblical approach in light Scripture?

"For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus." -- 1 Timothy 2:5


"In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins" -- cOLOSSIANS 1:14

If you think this is far-fetched, consider one of the earlier Catholic caucus threads which applauds the designation...

PADRE PIO AND THE MOTHER CO-REDEMPTRIX

16 posted on 05/14/2008 11:31:36 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: 1000 silverlings

lol.


17 posted on 05/14/2008 11:32:13 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Amen brother.

BTW, I’m a tremendous fan of Australia. I just bought an Australian flag for my garage wall (I have many current and historical U.S. and U.S. allies flags on the walls) and will be flying it every Memorial day with my Stars and Stripes (replacing the Union jack I HAD been flying for years)


18 posted on 05/14/2008 11:32:37 PM PDT by NucSubs (Cognitive dissonance: Conflict or anxiety resulting from inconsistency between beliefs and actions)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

The number of executed were in the thousands, total, combined. Not hundreds of thousands.


19 posted on 05/14/2008 11:38:10 PM PDT by NucSubs (Cognitive dissonance: Conflict or anxiety resulting from inconsistency between beliefs and actions)
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To: DannyTN

Thank you.

Raised Catholic. Catholic School. Altar boy. Never worshiped Mary or was taught to.

It is a lie.

I am a monotheist. Mono. One. Trinity - one God, three aspects. Jesus suffered & died for my sins so I might enter heaven.

Christ our hope. That is what Catholic Christians are taught.


20 posted on 05/14/2008 11:45:29 PM PDT by NucSubs (Cognitive dissonance: Conflict or anxiety resulting from inconsistency between beliefs and actions)
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