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To: DannyTN

Thank you.

Raised Catholic. Catholic School. Altar boy. Never worshiped Mary or was taught to.

It is a lie.

I am a monotheist. Mono. One. Trinity - one God, three aspects. Jesus suffered & died for my sins so I might enter heaven.

Christ our hope. That is what Catholic Christians are taught.


20 posted on 05/14/2008 11:45:29 PM PDT by NucSubs (Cognitive dissonance: Conflict or anxiety resulting from inconsistency between beliefs and actions)
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To: NucSubs
Then why did John Paul II refer to Mary as the "Co-Redeemer" on at least six occasions?

And what do you make of all these high-fiving RCs on this thread?

PADRE PIO AND THE MOTHER CO-REDEMPTRIX

23 posted on 05/15/2008 12:05:16 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: NucSubs

I agree. Respect of Mary comes from respect for Jesus in a Jo Mama sort of way. We love you and yo mama. As a Catholic I was only ever taught that there is one god. Its in the creed that we recite every week. The only thing about Mary is that she was his mother. We respect his mother. Is there a bible that does not have Mary below Jesus on the cross. Does he not speak to her last. Does she not first along with the other Mary, find Jesus gone from the tomb. What is wrong with respect for Mary. She was important to him, so she is important to us. But she is not a god. She is not part of a god. Catholics are clear on this.


35 posted on 05/15/2008 1:33:48 AM PDT by poinq
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To: NucSubs
Thank you. I'm Catholic as well. I can't believe people would actually believe such lies. It gets tiresome, sometimes, addressing the same tired, old lies over and over again. I just don't even bother anymore.

I love Our Lady. She is HIS mom. He loved her. He kept the 10 commandments more perfectly than human creature ever could: "Honor thy Father and thy Mother". He honored his mother. We should do the same. I am sure it makes Our Lord happy.

43 posted on 05/15/2008 4:03:18 AM PDT by sneakers (Liberty is the answer to the human condition.)
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To: NucSubs; Alex Murphy; Gamecock; HarleyD; Forest Keeper; wmfights; blue-duncan; xzins; P-Marlowe; ...

HELLO?

Just as Prottys cannot accurately determine what is in the heart/mind of any other Protty OR RC . . .

NEITHER CAN ANY RC

declare accurately, emphatically, that

NO RC worships Mary.

That knife cuts both ways.

It boggles my mind that RC’s are not more logically alert to such facts.

HUMANS ARE INHERENTLY IDOLATROUS. That’s just a fact.

It’s a fact in every Protty congregation as well as every RC congregation. Naysaying doesn’t remove it.

It takes Biblical focus on God and dogged ruthlessness with one’s self as well as Holy Spirit’s help with the Sword of The Spirit to keep one’s self free from idolatry.

THAT’S TRUE REGARDLESS OF WHETHER ONE IS PROTTY OR RC.

It’s just a human fact.

ADD IN THE !!!!TRADITIONS!!!! and outrageous encouragements TOWARD overweening

VENERATION, ADORATION [and other pseudonyms for worship]

on the part of the magisterical . . .

it becomes a very serious problem.

Of course, SOME RC’s are no MORE prone to idolatry than SOME prottys.

That’s a far cry from saying NO RC’s are idolatrous.

What arrogance . . . RC’s would have us believe

that THEIR CONGREGATIONS

AMONGST ALL THE RELIGIOUS GROUPS ON THE PLANET

ARE

NOT

IDOLATROUS!

That’s like saying . . .

South Seas Islanders are

MOST averse of all the countries of the world,

to swimming.

Balderdash.


191 posted on 05/15/2008 9:56:38 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: NucSubs

Sorry to butt in but:

One God, Three Persons. An ‘aspect’ is not a separate subject but only a different perspective on a single subject. That both makes God subject to limitation and reduces Him to Monophysitism.

Only by asserting that the Three are distinguishable as separate identities within the Godhead can we even begin to maintain both monotheism and the Godhead of Christ.

In Deo Vindice.


305 posted on 05/15/2008 1:35:02 PM PDT by BelegStrongbow (what part of 'mias gunaikos andra' do Episcopalians not understand?)
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