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Religion Forum Guidelines – Ecumenism
May 14, 2008 | Religion Moderator

Posted on 05/14/2008 9:06:42 AM PDT by Religion Moderator

In late April, markomalley and gamecock made a trial run at a “respectful dialog” category for threads on the Religion Forum. The trial failed due to the inability of the posters to agree on what is or is not “respectful.” Then in early May, several other posters appealed for the elimination of posts which seek to tear down other poster’s beliefs (iconoclasm.)

Meanwhile, the situation on the Religion Forum has been exacerbated by posters on the News/Activism forum inadvertently being exposed to religious debate as a result of choosing the “everything” option on browse instead of the “News/Activism” option.

If you are offended that conservatives have serious religious disagreements, do not use the “everything” browse option. If you are new to the Religion Forum, click on my profile page for guidelines.

In response to the pleas for a “respectful dialog” and/or the elimination of “iconoclasm” (attacks on other people’s beliefs) – I’m opening the floor for trial postings of a new type of semi-open thread which we shall call “ecumenic.”

Unlike the caucus threads, any poster could reply to an ecumenic thread. And the article on which an ecumenic thread is based could include contrasts and challenges of other beliefs. However, on the ecumenic thread, the poster must not argue against any other beliefs. He can only argue for what he believes – or ask questions.

While we test this new type of thread, be sure to tag every article so that posters will know when to avoid a thread. The tags during this trial run are “prayer” “devotional” “caucus” “ecumenic” or “open.”

Prayer threads are closed to debate of any kind.

Devotional threads are closed to debate of any kind.

Caucus threads are closed to any poster who is not a member of the caucus. If it says “Catholic Caucus” and you are not Catholic, do not post to the thread. However, if the poster of the caucus welcomes you, I will not boot you from the thread.

Ecumenic threads in this trial run are closed to all “anti” arguments. Posters who try to tear down other’s beliefs – or use subterfuge to accomplish the same goal – are the disrupters on ecumenic threads and will be booted from the thread and/or suspended.

Open threads are a town square – posters may argue for or against beliefs of any kind. They may tear down other's beliefs. They may ridicule, similar to the Smoky Backroom with the exception that a poster must never “make it personal.” Reading minds and attributing motives are forms of “making it personal.” Thin-skinned posters will be booted from “open” threads because in the town square, they are the disrupters.

When you see a post which is inappropriate for an ecumenic thread, ping me. Do not bother the Admin Moderators with an abuse report unless the situation requires immediate attention.


TOPICS: Ecumenism
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To: xzins; P-Marlowe; Dr. Eckleburg; Manfred the Wonder Dawg; Religion Moderator; Uncle Chip; Quix
What we need is a "Steel Cage Death Match" designation.

Abuse buttons are disabled. No mods allowed or they get whacked upside the head with a folding metal chair.

Last poster standing wins.

In the immortal words of Ric Flair: "WHOOO!"

Sorry for the above. That was a little bit of my SC raisin' coming out. Now where are my boiled p-nuts?

261 posted on 05/14/2008 1:11:06 PM PDT by Gamecock (The question is not, “Am I good enough to be a Christian?” rather “Am I good enough not to be?")
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To: Marysecretary
And even when they’ve been proven true through scripture, you don’t believe it.

Please don't confuse your (plural) interpretations of scripture as truth.

262 posted on 05/14/2008 1:11:25 PM PDT by Titanites
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To: xzins
It may cause me headaches, but I'm ready to give a try.

On each of the three examples you gave, an article addressing more than one belief and contrasting them would be valid for either an "ecumenic" or "open" tag. The difference would be in the type of posts which are tolerated.

263 posted on 05/14/2008 1:12:51 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Uncle Chip

So stop with the Abuse Button deal.

Unless you’re a mod, you have no clue who is doing that. Stop whining about it and we can all move on. ;-)


264 posted on 05/14/2008 1:13:14 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ironmom. (but really made from Gold plated titanium))
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To: netmilsmom
Who is hitting the abuse button?

Probably those who are pinging the Moderators all the time. Ask the Moderator.

265 posted on 05/14/2008 1:13:41 PM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: ChurtleDawg; P-Marlowe; Dr. Eckleburg

In Heaven, all threads are preordained.


266 posted on 05/14/2008 1:14:47 PM PDT by Gamecock (The question is not, “Am I good enough to be a Christian?” rather “Am I good enough not to be?")
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To: netmilsmom

no not on this thread.

haha


267 posted on 05/14/2008 1:15:36 PM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Please visit for latest on DPRK/Russia/China/et al.)
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To: Uncle Chip; Religion Moderator; Colofornian
Thin-skinned posters will be booted from “open” threads because in the town square, they are the disrupters." Is this NEW? Because I have never seen it done.
Nor have I -- but it is about time that it be done!!!

I also want to know, will the forum rules now be EQUALLY ENFORCED on "open" threads...or will certain posters continue to be allowed to post ad hominems and be tolerated?

Not naming names, of course.

268 posted on 05/14/2008 1:16:24 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Plea to mormon FReepers, "DONT HOSE ME, BRO!")
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To: Uncle Chip

>>Probably those who are pinging the Moderators all the time. Ask the Moderator. <<

The Mod didn’t make the accusation, you did. Probably is not in it.


271 posted on 05/14/2008 1:19:18 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ironmom. (but really made from Gold plated titanium))
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To: Titanites

At least we seek the truth in our scriptures and don’t deny it when it’s obvious. The Vatican doesn’t speak for me and it shouldn’t for you, either. You should be able to read scripture for yourself and figure out what it really means.


272 posted on 05/14/2008 1:19:44 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Rick.Donaldson

Phew! I know this thread is pretty long but I haven’t seen a thing that you said that would warrant it.

Maybe it’s just me...


273 posted on 05/14/2008 1:20:33 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ironmom. (but really made from Gold plated titanium))
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To: Gamecock; P-Marlowe; Dr. Eckleburg; Manfred the Wonder Dawg; Religion Moderator; Uncle Chip; ...
"Steel Cage Death Match"

Now that's a thread I'd pay to see!

What holding it back?!!

LOL!

274 posted on 05/14/2008 1:20:36 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: greyfoxx39

>>I also want to know, will the forum rules now be EQUALLY ENFORCED on “open” threads...or will certain posters continue to be allowed to post ad hominems and be tolerated?

Not naming names, of course. <<

Can you give us an example then?


275 posted on 05/14/2008 1:21:52 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ironmom. (but really made from Gold plated titanium))
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To: sandyeggo; Uncle Chip
*** So you have NO IDEA who does the most button-pushing around here. ***

For the sake of the discussion let's assume there is a thread that is perceived by some to be anti-Catholic. We can pretty much narrow down to a group who is hitting the abuse button.

It's not the Mormons, Calvinists or Methodists. Seeing how the same Catholics show up on these perceived anti-Catholic threads, it's pretty easy to narrow it down to 5-8 folks.

276 posted on 05/14/2008 1:22:16 PM PDT by Gamecock (The question is not, “Am I good enough to be a Christian?” rather “Am I good enough not to be?")
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To: Marysecretary
You should be able to read scripture for yourself and figure out what it really means.

You (plural) haven't demonstrated that you can yet.

277 posted on 05/14/2008 1:22:43 PM PDT by Titanites
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To: sandyeggo

Okay, I’ll try, but from all my efforts recently, no one in the Catholic camp, but disrupters, ever make a comment


278 posted on 05/14/2008 1:22:53 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: trisham

And what I’m saying is that the new designation cannot discuss a number of subject by their very nature.


279 posted on 05/14/2008 1:23:50 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: Colofornian
OK, then, under this postulation does that mean the word "Protestant" is an automatically banned word from the Ec threads?

Of course not. On an ecumenic thread, you might post something like this:

I am a Protestant and we believe that ...

A loaded question is an attempt to circumvent the guideline for an "ecumenic" thread by making a challenge in the form of a question. For instance,

Why do you call Mary the "Mother of God" when she didn't come into existence until well after the universe was created?


280 posted on 05/14/2008 1:24:11 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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