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08-May-2008 | Grig

Posted on 05/08/2008 5:04:47 PM PDT by Grig

I am posting this on behalf of many LDS freepers. They will post their own 'signature' to this in the comments below. --- Some of you have noticed lately a lot of LDS (ie: Mormon) threads here on FR. I'm going to tell you why.

For many years there have been several active LDS freepers here. We post to all the forums on relevant issues, and were happy to have a site where conservative values were so openly welcomed.

Those conservative values include faith in God, and freedom of religion. We fully respect the rights of all posters to express their opinions and views on religious matters, even when people choose to use those rights to express criticism of our own faith. We also support the ideas embodied in FR rules against religion bashing. There is no need for hostility and there should be no room for bigotry on FR. Every religion has it's miracles and mysteries. Every faith has things in it that are not or can not be proven, and things that run contrary to what secular science would have us believe. Someone mature and confident in their own faith generally doesn't feel the need to belittle the faith of others.

We have, to the best of our ability, conducted ourselves with civility and dignity. We do not feel that that respect has been returned by some posters (putting it mildly).

When Mormon missionaries were murdered, the moderators were kept busy pulling jubilant posts off the thread. When Elizabeth Smart was abducted from her home, we contended for months with posters who appeared to be motivated by religious bigotry doing all they could to smear the family and accuse the father. Several posters openly admitted their religious motivation in opposing Mitt Romney and confessed that no matter how conservative any Mormon was, they would never vote for one for President of the USA. When the Pope died, I don't think any Mormon poster posted anything unkind, yet the thread about the passing of our President recently needed many comments removed.

Nearly every thread having any connection with Mormons, or Utah winds up being hijacked by anti-Mormon activists who copy and paste the same false accusations over and over even when it has been clearly and factually pointed out to them on multiple occasions that they are bearing false witness against our faith. Everything possible is done by these activists to make FR a hostile place for Mormons, and for at least some of them, bashing Mormonism is all they do here. Their most recent project is trying to blur the fact that the polygamous FLDS is a separate and distinct religion from ours, just as Lutherans are a separate and distinct religion from Catholicism.

In our opinion, such poster do a great disservice to FR and to their fellow freepers by spreading disinformation and promoting hostility towards a people known for walking the walk of conservative values.

Why the moderators here don't see the behavior of these anti-Mormon activists as religion bashing is a mystery to us, but it is the moderators call to make and we respect their right to do so. That doesn't mean we have to be passive however. We have all spent many hours refuting the accusations leveled at our faith, but these wind up buried deep in a flood of comments, effectively shouting us down.

Recently some of us have decided to take a more proactive approach. Rather than try to wrestle the pig into taking a bath, we are just going to hose it down. We will actively define our faith here rather than just respond to accusations.

So expect to see lots of Mormon threads, now and for as long as we see fit to keep posting them (although probably not as many as there are Catholic threads). They will be about our basic doctrines and responses to common accusations. If you want to know what our faith is about, read the articles we post. We will post them as open threads and I encourage you to compare the difference in tone and spirit between what we post and what our critics say.


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To: Elsie

LOLOLOL!


581 posted on 05/09/2008 12:43:35 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: ansel12
“Somehow, members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints have been persuaded by their leaders that they have always been on the receiving end of uncharitable comments and unjust accusations.

PERSUADED?

It's TAUGHT in their schools!!!


 
 
 
 

Professor Robert Millet teaching at the Mission Prep Club in 2004  http://newsnet.byu.edu/video/18773/
 
 
Timeline...    Subject...
 
0:59            "Anti-Mormons..."
1:16            "ATTACK the faith you have..."
2:02           "We really aren't obligated to answer everyone's questions..."
3:57           "You already know MORE about God and Christ and the plan of salvation than any who would ATTACK you."

582 posted on 05/09/2008 12:44:15 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Marysecretary

Will you use chemicals? Grub-Ex works the best. It takes a few seasons to kill all of them. (and don’t have a naturalist living next to you!)

If you don’t want to use chemicals, use milky spore like this
http://www2.yardiac.com/long.asp?item_id=684&promo=google&gclid=CKTUpKGWmpMCFQksswod6i6vwQ

It takes longer. And remember that it will probably take a season or two for the moles to disappear, especially if your neighbors don’t treat the problem. You are trying to take away a food source so if your neighbor still has grubs, the moles will still tunnel under your lawn.

Hope that helps!


583 posted on 05/09/2008 12:44:29 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am very mad at Disney. Give me my James Marsden song!!!!!)
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To: netmilsmom; restornu

I asked resty once to clairify. How do you see that as badgering?

I wanted her to clear up some confusion I had as to her suggesting purgatory was like the Telestial Kingdom. She didn’t seem to think my question garnered a response, and it dropped,... except that you came along and accused me of badgering.

Oh well. There is much you don’t know about Mormonism, and it seems that you are quite satisfied to remain in the dark and accuse everyone else of judging them. Yet you don’t even care to learn what it is we know or what they believe.

Okay.


584 posted on 05/09/2008 12:44:49 PM PDT by colorcountry (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Monkey Face

...double...?

TRIPLE!!!

(Somehow the thought of a million monkeys at a million typewriters came to mind... ;^)


585 posted on 05/09/2008 12:46:44 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

LOL!
Thanks!

Actually I’m just living in a Marvel Comics universe right now.


586 posted on 05/09/2008 12:47:06 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am very mad at Disney. Give me my James Marsden song!!!!!)
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To: Marysecretary
Are those the, gulp, Jesus twins?

That is the double bodied GOD that the MORMONs worship.

587 posted on 05/09/2008 12:47:49 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Monkey Face
I want to spend as much time as possible in the SSW area of UTAH, but the wifey has clamped down on my yearly trips...

Boo hoo...

588 posted on 05/09/2008 12:49:37 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Monkey Face
I want to spend as much time as possible in the SSEAST area of UTAH, but the wifey has clamped down on my yearly trips...

Boo hoo...

589 posted on 05/09/2008 12:50:00 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: netmilsmom

“Show me where I was championing the Mormon faith and then we will talk.”


“Does the Pope accept Mormon baptism?”

“Are you saying that the Catholic church accepts Mormonism as Christian?”

By evading these questions for one thing.

As a Catholic the answers should come simply to you, but you keep refusing to say it out loud, which sounds like you are protecting something to me.


590 posted on 05/09/2008 12:50:40 PM PDT by ansel12 (Unfortunately, son, we 'Utahans' sometimes have to bend the rules a little in order to hold our own.)
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To: colorcountry

Honestly, I don’t feel a need to know. And you can say that this was a one time thing, but we have our “Usual Suspects” on the Catholic threads. Every Catholic thread, who do the same thing. Drop a “question” and claim to be innocent. Yet it happens in every thread, so....

If I’m wrong, I apologize. But I’m new to these LDS threads and I’m seeing a trend. The same trend that the Catholics get.

To me, it’s just very sad.


591 posted on 05/09/2008 12:50:45 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am very mad at Disney. Give me my James Marsden song!!!!!)
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To: Monkey Face
Those were happy days, but now, all the areas we “played” in have been built up and are now residential.

The places I like have been bastardized by the BLM etal!


Wildlife study area my BUTT!
592 posted on 05/09/2008 12:51:15 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Would that be Bluff?

Mexican Hat?

Among my favorite places.


593 posted on 05/09/2008 12:52:12 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . The Bitcons will elect a Democrat by default)
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To: andysandmikesmom

That’s just it. We don’t go after the Mormons. We disagree with their beliefs. I have no animosity towards anyone on FR and I have been here for 10 years.

One of the central tenets of Mormonism is to be persecuted for its beliefs. The Mormons have even done it to each other. We are just doing our part to jewel up the crown.


594 posted on 05/09/2008 12:52:38 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: ansel12

That’s your speculation.

Show me where I championed Mormonism. I sent you back to your own references for the answers, I didn’t evade.

I also gave you other references to the Vatican thoughts on Mormon PEOPLE and how they can make it to heaven.

The ball is in your court.


595 posted on 05/09/2008 12:53:23 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am very mad at Disney. Give me my James Marsden song!!!!!)
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To: netmilsmom
But she might beat me with a broom.

TAking off; or landing?

597 posted on 05/09/2008 12:53:55 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Marysecretary

They must!

But it has merely chased them into MY land!!


598 posted on 05/09/2008 12:55:19 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

It does NOT, however, mess up your monogrammed shirts!


599 posted on 05/09/2008 12:56:44 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: andysandmikesmom

What a wonderful story! Thank you!


600 posted on 05/09/2008 12:57:15 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am very mad at Disney. Give me my James Marsden song!!!!!)
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