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Posted on 05/08/2008 5:04:47 PM PDT by Grig
I am posting this on behalf of many LDS freepers. They will post their own 'signature' to this in the comments below. --- Some of you have noticed lately a lot of LDS (ie: Mormon) threads here on FR. I'm going to tell you why.
For many years there have been several active LDS freepers here. We post to all the forums on relevant issues, and were happy to have a site where conservative values were so openly welcomed.
Those conservative values include faith in God, and freedom of religion. We fully respect the rights of all posters to express their opinions and views on religious matters, even when people choose to use those rights to express criticism of our own faith. We also support the ideas embodied in FR rules against religion bashing. There is no need for hostility and there should be no room for bigotry on FR. Every religion has it's miracles and mysteries. Every faith has things in it that are not or can not be proven, and things that run contrary to what secular science would have us believe. Someone mature and confident in their own faith generally doesn't feel the need to belittle the faith of others.
We have, to the best of our ability, conducted ourselves with civility and dignity. We do not feel that that respect has been returned by some posters (putting it mildly).
When Mormon missionaries were murdered, the moderators were kept busy pulling jubilant posts off the thread. When Elizabeth Smart was abducted from her home, we contended for months with posters who appeared to be motivated by religious bigotry doing all they could to smear the family and accuse the father. Several posters openly admitted their religious motivation in opposing Mitt Romney and confessed that no matter how conservative any Mormon was, they would never vote for one for President of the USA. When the Pope died, I don't think any Mormon poster posted anything unkind, yet the thread about the passing of our President recently needed many comments removed.
Nearly every thread having any connection with Mormons, or Utah winds up being hijacked by anti-Mormon activists who copy and paste the same false accusations over and over even when it has been clearly and factually pointed out to them on multiple occasions that they are bearing false witness against our faith. Everything possible is done by these activists to make FR a hostile place for Mormons, and for at least some of them, bashing Mormonism is all they do here. Their most recent project is trying to blur the fact that the polygamous FLDS is a separate and distinct religion from ours, just as Lutherans are a separate and distinct religion from Catholicism.
In our opinion, such poster do a great disservice to FR and to their fellow freepers by spreading disinformation and promoting hostility towards a people known for walking the walk of conservative values.
Why the moderators here don't see the behavior of these anti-Mormon activists as religion bashing is a mystery to us, but it is the moderators call to make and we respect their right to do so. That doesn't mean we have to be passive however. We have all spent many hours refuting the accusations leveled at our faith, but these wind up buried deep in a flood of comments, effectively shouting us down.
Recently some of us have decided to take a more proactive approach. Rather than try to wrestle the pig into taking a bath, we are just going to hose it down. We will actively define our faith here rather than just respond to accusations.
So expect to see lots of Mormon threads, now and for as long as we see fit to keep posting them (although probably not as many as there are Catholic threads). They will be about our basic doctrines and responses to common accusations. If you want to know what our faith is about, read the articles we post. We will post them as open threads and I encourage you to compare the difference in tone and spirit between what we post and what our critics say.
Big DEAL!!!
You DON'T know more about God and Christ and the plan of salvation than any who would ATTACK you.
--MormonDude(We Mishies do!)
Amen; Brother!!
What you said!
--MormonDude('course; He ain't EXACTLY the way Christianity has known Him for centuries, in our minds.)
You'd best read your Bible - New Testement will be fine - first.
It gives quite GRAPHIC descriptions of what FALSE teachers will do and say.
Yup: Snatch 'em from the fire if they are willing.
THE FIRST BOOK OF NEPHI
HIS REIGN AND MINISTRY CHAPTER 14
An angel tells Nephi of the blessings and cursings to fall upon the GentilesThere are only two churches: the Church of the Lamb of God and the church of the devilThe saints of God in all nations are persecuted by the great and abominable churchThe apostle John shall write concerning the end of the world. Between 600 and 592 B.C.
1 And it shall come to pass, that if the Gentiles shall hearken unto the Lamb of God in that day that he shall manifest himself unto them in word, and also in power, in very deed, unto the taking away of their stumbling blocks 2 And harden not their hearts against the Lamb of God, they shall be numbered among the seed of thy father; yea, they shall be numbered among the house of Israel; and they shall be a blessed people upon the promised land forever; they shall be no more brought down into captivity; and the house of Israel shall no more be confounded. 3 And that great pit, which hath been digged for them by that great and abominable church, which was founded by the devil and his children, that he might lead away the souls of men down to hellyea, that great pit which hath been digged for the destruction of men shall be filled by those who digged it, unto their utter destruction, saith the Lamb of God; not the destruction of the soul, save it be the casting of it into that hell which hath no end. 4 For behold, this is according to the captivity of the devil, and also according to the justice of God, upon all those who will work wickedness and abomination before him. 5 And it came to pass that the angel spake unto me, Nephi, saying: Thou hast beheld that if the Gentiles repent it shall be well with them; and thou also knowest concerning the covenants of the Lord unto the house of Israel; and thou also hast heard that whoso repented not must perish. 6 Therefore, woe be unto the Gentiles if it so be that they harden their hearts against the Lamb of God. 7 For the time cometh, saith the Lamb of God, that I will work a great and a marvelous work among the children of men; a work which shall be everlasting, either on the one hand or on the othereither to the convincing of them unto peace and life eternal, or unto the deliverance of them to the hardness of their hearts and the blindness of their minds unto their being brought down into captivity, and also into destruction, both temporally and spiritually, according to the captivity of the devil, of which I have spoken. 8 And it came to pass that when the angel had spoken these words, he said unto me: Rememberest thou the covenants of the Father unto the house of Israel? I said unto him, Yea. 9 And it came to pass that he said unto me: Look, and behold that great and abominable church, which is the mother of abominations, whose founder is the devil. 10 And he said unto me: Behold there are save two churches only; the one is the church of the Lamb of God, and the other is the church of the devil; wherefore, whoso belongeth not to the church of the Lamb of God belongeth to that great church, which is the mother of abominations; and she is the whore of all the earth. 11 And it came to pass that I looked and beheld the whore of all the earth, and she sat upon many waters; and she had dominion over ball the earth, among all nations, kindreds, tongues, and people. 12 And it came to pass that I beheld the church of the Lamb of God, and its numbers were few, because of the wickedness and abominations of the whore who sat upon many waters; nevertheless, I beheld that the church of the Lamb, who were the saints of God, were also upon ball the face of the earth; and their dominions upon the face of the earth were small, because of the wickedness of the great whore whom I saw. 13 And it came to pass that I beheld that the great mother of abominations did gather together multitudes upon the face of all the earth, among all the nations of the Gentiles, to fight against the Lamb of God. 14 And it came to pass that I, Nephi, beheld the power of the Lamb of God, that it descended upon the saints of the church of the Lamb, and upon the covenant people of the Lord, who were scattered upon all the face of the earth; and they were armed with righteousness and with the power of God in great glory. 15 And it came to pass that I beheld that the wrath of God was poured out upon that great and abominable church, insomuch that there were wars and rumors of wars among all the nations and kindreds of the earth. 16 And as there began to be wars and rumors of wars among all the nations which belonged to the mother of abominations, the angel spake unto me, saying: Behold, the wrath of God is upon the mother of harlots; and behold, thou seest all these things 17 And when the day cometh that the wrath of God is poured out upon the mother of harlots, which is the great and abominable church of all the earth, whose founder is the devil, then, at that day, the work of the Father shall commence, in preparing the way for the fulfilling of his covenants, which he hath made to his people who are of the house of Israel. 18 And it came to pass that the angel spake unto me, saying: Look! 19 And I looked and beheld a man, and he was dressed in a white robe. 20 And the angel said unto me: Behold one of the twelve apostles of the Lamb. 21 Behold, he shall see and write the remainder of these things; yea, and also many things which have been. 22 And he shall also write concerning the end of the world. 23 Wherefore, the things which he shall write are just and true; and behold they are written in the book which thou beheld proceeding out of the mouth of the Jew; and at the time they proceeded out of the mouth of the Jew, or, at the time the book proceeded out of the mouth of the Jew, the things which were written were plain and pure, and most precious and easy to the understanding of all men. 24 And behold, the things which this apostle of the Lamb shall write are many things which thou hast seen; and behold, the remainder shalt thou see. 25 But the things which thou shalt see hereafter thou shalt not write; for the Lord God hath ordained the apostle of the Lamb of God that he should write them. 26 And also others who have been, to them hath he shown all things, and they have written them; and they are sealed up to come forth in their purity, according to the truth which is in the Lamb, in the own due time of the Lord, unto the house of Israel. 27 And I, Nephi, heard and bear record, that the name of the apostle of the Lamb was john, according to the word of the angel. 28 And behold, I, Nephi, am forbidden that I should write the remainder of the things which I saw and heard; wherefore the things which I have written sufficeth me; and I have written but a small part of the things which I saw. 29 And I bear record that I saw the things which my father saw, and the angel of the Lord did make them known unto me. 30 And now I make an end of speaking concerning the things which I saw while I was carried away in the spirit; and if all the things which I saw are not written, the things which I have written are true. And thus it is. Amen.
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Please show one post where I have damned anyone to Hell
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Here ya go, stylish guy..
Post # 4212..
Delphi User to Tennessee Nana..
I dont know who or what you worship, but I worship the God of Abraham, and of Issac, and of Jacob. The almighty God of Israel, whose only begotten son suffered, and died atoning for my sins, was buried and arose on the third day, this my Savior, my Lord, my God, testified to me of his mission on earth, and of the truthfulness of the Book of Mormon, of Him I bear witness. ANYONE WHO DENIES MY WITNESS DOES SO AT HIS OR HER ETERNAL PERIL. Those who mock God will not be found blameless at the last day.
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If you were unaware, “eternal peril” to a Christian is Hell...
You still never answered my questions that you said could be answered:
What’s the marital status of the number five?
How much is your name?
Remember?
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I answered that days ago...
The next question in the sequence will be about Netlix...
((((((((((((((( REMEMBER ?????????? )))))))))))))))
The Day I take orders from you
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Your idiot “priesthood” title means diddly to me..
There is no source for it in the Bible..
And Joseph Smith never had any “keys” or authority from God to give out titles to anyone..
You can call yourself the Dali Lama if you like...
(Actually Saffron would look good on you )
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“You want to know why the Christians in these threads push back against the constant barage of prostylizing by the mormons who tell us we are going to Hell unless we become mormons...”
Yeah, that’s a silly excuse, not a reason. Especially since the ‘you’ll go to hell unless you’re a _fill in the blank_. I have, however heard that preached in a bunch of Baptist Churches.
That video was by Cafe.. so I made some coffee to drink as I watched it...
how do you take your’s ?????..
:)
Joseph Smith
In the Year of Our Lord 1820...... or 1831, or........1827? Or was it 1834?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
I swear I have I heard that quote previously somewhere else before?
Strange.
Perhaps, just perhaps, someone ripped off and plagarized Matthew 15:8?
And a whooooole lotta other stuff from the same Bible?
I better iron my short sleeve white shirt and meditate on it for awhile.
Now that makes more sense...
1. Joseph Smith was hungry for Mom’s Spagetti..
2. Joseph Smith had just had Mom’s Spagetti and now had indigestion...
3. Joseph Smith ate the Spagetti Monster’s lunch and HE the Great Spagetti Monter, was angry with Joseph Smith, and rightly so, and Joseph Smith dreamed that the Great Spagetti Monster was about to cleve Joseph Smith in two with a sword, unless he betray his mother’s meatball recipe and the Bush Beans recipe.......
Wait I’m allowed 5 more versions...
(To be continued)
However, given Joseph Smith's documented "lifestyle" regarding members of the female sex, I think this was appropriate: (note to the complainers - I didn't post the photo here)
"Heart of the matter"Shawn McCraney - Melchizedek Priesthood
Actually in the 3rd version Joseph Smith told his brother who told his uncle who told his neighbor who told someone else’s cousin, that the Noble and white and delightsome Joseph Smith stood up to the Great Spagetti Monster and declared, “ Ye and I willeth tell ye mine own mother’s meatball recipeth, for sheth iseth but a lowly woman, and counteth not in yon glorieth celestialeth realmeth, and it shall come to passeth, ye henceth fortheth, and her meat balls stinketh, but the Bush Beans recipeth is knowneth only to the Bush family and the Bush dog and to me of courseth becauseth ye I am mosteth worthieth, and mosteth humblieth etceth etceth, and the gods that dwelleth in yon celestialeth planeth dideth reveleth it to me, alone and toldeth me not to revealeth to anyone, and it did come to passeth that he then tooketh back the recipeth which was written in Reformed err Restored Egyptian, from my hands, place it in a Cullmorah tin and buried it with feathers, and Moroni and Cheese, in Farmer Stowell’s field.”
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