UH OH ... NEW SINS FROM THE VATICAN

NEALZ NUZE ^ | Monday, March 10, 2008 | neal boortz

[Turret Gunner A20]

The Vatican has gone to meddling again. They've decided that the original seven deadly sins just aren't enough. We need some new ones. So here you go, but first, a review. For those of you who don't remember the original seven, here you go, courtesy of Pope Gregory back there in the 6th Century.

 Pride Broken on the wheel
 Envy Put in freezing water
 Gluttony Forced to eat rats, toads, and snakes
 Lust Smothered in fire and brimstone
 Anger Dismembered alive
 Greed Put in cauldrons of boiling oil
 Sloth Thrown in snake pits

Hold on a minute! What are those phrases after the sins? Why those are the punishments originally established by the Catholic Church for transgressors.

Moving right along to the new magnificent seven!  Genetic experimentation
 Tampering with the order of nature
 Pollution
 Social injustice
 Causing poverty
 Accumulating excessive wealth
 Drug abuse

Now you know. Adjust your behavior accordingly

Yeah .. right.

[OpusatFR]

Let’s try this again. If you post an article on gay, blind prostitutes and raw vegetable worship, and I reply to you with some question, it does not mean it is directed to you and I neither think you are a raw vegetable worshiping gay blind prostitute, nor do I care.

It means that you posted the article and the reference is to your post.

Ok. Are you with me this far?

My generic question into the ether and for the board was: Why would anyone who is non-catholic care?

Are you with me this far?

[Turret Gunner A20]

Are they going to add more homunculi to Full Metal Alchemist?

If you are trying to be clever, you just crashed and burned.

Little men, have nothing to do with the subject of the thread, unless you have some little green ones from another planet to contribute.

[Turret Gunner A20]

Try reading who wrote the article. I DIDN'T -- AND I DID NOT MAKE IT ANYTHING; PERSONAL OR OTHERWISE.

If it ruffles your feathers, pull the thread -- it's no skin off my ear.

[Logic n' Reason]

To be followed very shortly by a few more:

Voting for any democrate candidate (US Only) - punishment = you get what you deserve

Saying anything negative about Hitler-y (US Only) - punishment = you get fosterized

Saying anything negative about Ann Coulter (US Only) - punishment = eternal listening to recordings of b. clinton speeches

Thinking - even in your heart - that the catholic church needs to get a life (world wide) - punishment = eternal control of papacy by european prelates.

[marshmallow]

The Vatican has gone to meddling again. They've decided that the original seven deadly sins just aren't enough. We need some new ones.

The writer is an ignoramus.

There are no new sins. Just new circumstances in which man's fallen nature transgresses God's law. The sin of selfishness, for instance, could be manifest on a medieval feudal manor by allowing your mule to graze on another farmer's pasture and it can be manifest today in a modern industrial society by throwing your effluent into another man's food source.

Same sin, different century.

This is a childish outburst of ignorance.

[Uri’el-2012]

NEW SINS FROM THE VATICAN

• Genetic experimentation
• Tampering with the order of nature
• Pollution
• Social injustice
• Causing poverty
• Accumulating excessive wealth
• Drug abuse

Is there any scriptual foundation for these findings?

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai

[CzarNicky]

does this mean they are not going to add more homunculi to Full Metal Alchemist. Too bad That franchise should be continued.

[D-fendr]

Surely you can see how these relate to sins in scripture, yes?

[cothrige]

Judging by what I have seen online about this it looks like it is nothing more than an interview with a Bishop about sin in the modern world. Hardly an example of the Vatican actually adding new sins. And there is no list of sins to add anything to in the first place. What it comes down to is this doesn’t create any new sins, just as Bishop Mahoney has never been able to delete any.

[Uri’el-2012]

LOL ;-)

[D-fendr]

Shooting heroin, for example, is not in scripture, but I think we would agree it’s not unscriptural to say it’s a sin.

[Mrs. Don-o]

This story of the Vatican supposedly announcing "new sins" has been mishandled in a dozen ways by the usual MSM offenders ---the British press, e.g. the (UK)Times Online and the Daily Mirror being among the worst--- so let me pass on this response I cribbed from Mark Shea. The particular article he was reacting to was different in some minor details, but you'll get the drift:

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"There is so much jumbled junk in this silly piece it's hard to know where to start.

"To begin with is the whole "rules based" approach of the author, which is fundamentally tone deaf to the fact that the faith is about relationship, not breaking rules. Off on that wrong footing, the author then makes it sound like the Vatican has added new "mortal sins" to some traditional list in order to keep up with Euro-trendiness. As is often the case, Dante somehow becomes an extension of the Magisterium (and the author even concludes with a list of official looking hellish punishments for the traditional seven deadlies, all derived from the Inferno).

" Then we discover that the "seven holy virtues" are "chastity, abstinence, temperance, diligence, patience, kindness and humility". At this point my WTF? meter goes off and I am aware that the author, with his rules-based approach to the Faith has not the slighted idea what he's talking about. His view of the Faith, like so many secular Brits, is of a regimen that's all about crushing human happiness with fasting, abstinence and celibacy. The goal of this strawman Catholicism is to transform a man into a sheep. In the Catholic world I know of, the seven virtues are prudence, justice, temperance, fortitude, faith, hope and love, which are ordered toward transforming a man into a heroic saint in imitation of Jesus Christ. The Brit media should check it out sometime.

" Anyway, the piece goes stumbling along, partly repelled by the Scary Authoritarian Catholic Church and partly enamored of what it takes to be a religious effort to conform to the Gaia-worship so popular among secular Brits. To be sure, there's always a note of cynicism at play in the piece. One gets the sense that the author imagines "the Vatican" is jumping on the Mother Earth bandwagon as part of its relentless Jesuitical scheming to insinuate itself into the good graces of the Euro-elites. In reality, of course, all "the Vatican" is doing is applying the same old moral principles of sin and virtue to contemporary situations. You shall not kill--even when the person you are killing is really small. Tend and care for the Garden of Creation--even if you are the President of a giant corporation.

" It's all so Not New. But newspapers need copy every day, so they don't let their ignorance get in the way of the stream of "information."

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Bottom line: please, please don't read the MSM --- especially when they report on thir favorite bogeymen, the Evangelical Right and the Catholic Church --- without several rather large grains of salt. Fact-check before you react, just as you would (I hope) if the L.A. Times ran a front-pager on some statement from the Southern Baptist Convention. OK?

[Uri’el-2012]

Shooting heroin, for example, is not in scripture, but I think we would agree it’s not unscriptural to say it’s a sin.

I would say it is desecrating the temple of G-d.

b'SHEM Yah'shua

[lastchance]

“This is a childish outburst of ignorance.”

You were excepting maybe some other kind?

[lastchance]

“This is a childish outburst of ignorance.”

You were expecting maybe some other kind?

[ladyinred]

Oh my, are you sure some of these aren’t rules for us all by the DNC

[Salvation]

There is no Catholic post listed on Zenit and I believe all these four posts are only spin.

I’ll post the seven deadly sins and the seven heavenly virtues later.

Religion Moderator — frankly, I believe this is the fourth thread on the entire forum bashing the Vatican. What is happening here?

[Turret Gunner A20]

It might be a list for all of us to kinda work at, but for the DNC it is most likely a their reminder for list for things to discuss with the Padre next confessin.

[Turret Gunner A20]

You haven’t seen anything yet — wait until some unsuspecting soul posts a thread about Mormons.