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History Channel - "How The Earth Was Made" dosumentary raises many questions in my mind
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Posted on 12/31/2007 5:40:23 PM PST by SilvieWaldorfMD

So last night (Sunday, 12/30/07) I get ready in front of the T.V. at 8 p.m. with my son to watch the very much hyped documentary on the History Channel titled "How The Earth Was Made". Since my son is a first-grader and very much into science, his main interests include Earth and the entire Solar System.

The two-hour documentary was fantastic, but it raised a key question in my mind and it made me, shall I say, more of a believer in God as Our Creator (not that I ever stopped 'believing', but I'm an open-minded person who believes both in evolution and creationism). However, this show changed my views. Let me explain:

Many of the scientists interviewed (and they had on the best scientists in the world) couldn't explain how water got to Earth. Or how Earth created water. So, they proposed that perhaps the water source came from outer space in asteroids. Because asteroids contain moisture, they stated that these massive rocks from outer space (many of them the length and width of Mt. Everest) created water after the hit the Earth.

Baloney. It is so obvious that none of these scientists want to admit that God was the creator of water and of everything that flourishes in this planet. They should would not or could not state it on the program.

Even my grandmother -- who is 96 years of age and saw the program in Puerto Rico -- said to me this morning that she thought the program lacked "any mention of God".

Anyone else see this show last night?


TOPICS: General Discusssion; Religion & Science; Skeptics/Seekers; Theology
KEYWORDS: cometsaremostlyice; creationism; evolution; globalwarming; heatmeltsice; origins; religion; sheesh
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To: Lightfinger
2) The laws of physics have to be suspended for the explosion to occur.

My question would be were the laws of the universe in place before the alledged explosion that began the universe?

61 posted on 01/02/2008 12:25:54 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: cripplecreek
"Stating theory as fact is one of the things that concern me about manmade global warming hysteria. I fear that it gives all science a bad name in the eyes of the public."

But there's a consensus! ;) /s

62 posted on 01/02/2008 1:04:54 PM PST by VRWCtaz (You're not just seeing things if you can get others to see them too. Now about the voices...)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

It was a good show.


63 posted on 01/03/2008 7:44:25 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD
Because asteroids contain moisture, they stated that these massive rocks from outer space (many of them the length and width of Mt. Everest) created water after the hit the Earth. Baloney. It is so obvious that none of these scientists want to admit that God was the creator of water and of everything that flourishes in this planet. They should would not or could not state it on the program.

Could it be that God created the asteroids that brought water to Earth? Why do you believe that God could not have accomplished it that way?

The job of scientists is to try to understand how things work. Those scientists may or may not be spiritual in their personal lives, but when it comes to their profession, even the most religious among them (and many are very religious people) would not try to tell God how he should have accomplished creation. Their job is to try to understand how He did it.

64 posted on 01/03/2008 1:03:50 PM PST by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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To: Creationist
The Bible is literal and should be taken as such...

That puts you squarly among a very small minority of believing Christians.

65 posted on 01/03/2008 1:06:58 PM PST by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

It might be noted that water is very common in the solar system. Closer to the sun such volatiles have been driven off already, but farther out there are moons of Jupiter and Saturn that are more or less water worlds or water ice worlds.


66 posted on 01/03/2008 1:10:25 PM PST by RightWhale (Dean Koonz is good, but my favorite authors are Dun and Bradstreet)
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To: bill1952
Some scientists are not smart.

Educated, though.

67 posted on 01/03/2008 1:11:29 PM PST by RightWhale (Dean Koonz is good, but my favorite authors are Dun and Bradstreet)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

History Channel—the whole channel is baloney. It’s nothing more than history lite...PC history.


68 posted on 01/03/2008 1:12:09 PM PST by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: Ditto

The way is straight and the gate is narrow, many will seek and few will make it.


69 posted on 01/03/2008 6:03:37 PM PST by Creationist ( Evolution is a faith based science with no proof. Scientist are the prophets, teachers the preacher)
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To: Creationist
The physical evidence in the universe and this world all point to young, not long and slow.

Fossils, pyramids, Grand Canyon.. all fakes?

Please tell me what physical evidence points to "young".

70 posted on 01/03/2008 6:09:55 PM PST by humblegunner (My KungFu is ten times power.©)
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To: humblegunner
Fossils have been proved to only take years, not billions, millions, or even hundreds of years.

The pyramids were made after the flood, any dating method will always be speculative in nature as there is no way to tell if it is accurate as there is no date stamp on the item in question to calibrate with.

Grand Canyon is an example of a large, gigantic dam that was breached.

The head of the river is lower in elevation than that of the head of the canyon by over a thousand feet. And unless rivers tended to flow up hill years ago that canyon was cut by a lot of water in a short amount of time, unlike the premise that a little water over long time. Where is the delta like the Mississippi River.

Which by the way the delta is made at a measurable rate which dates it around 13000 years ago subtract the deposits made from the first few hundred years of large water flow from receding flood waters.

The oldest tree is around 4000 years, fits the flood time.

The Great Coral reef was studied after WWII and the growth rate discovered around 4000 years.

The Sahara Desert grows at a measurable rate that dates it around 4000 years.

The Magnetic field decays at a rate that would have the earth a magnetic star and life could not have survived just 20000 years ago.

The sun loses mass at a rate that would have the earth to hot only millions of years ago for life to exist.

The moon recedes at a rate that would have had the tidal surges covering the Continent's twice a day millions of years ago. There is much more. Flame on.
71 posted on 01/03/2008 6:33:17 PM PST by Creationist ( Evolution is a faith based science with no proof. Scientist are the prophets, teachers the preacher)
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To: Creationist
Delusion is pitiable.
72 posted on 01/04/2008 3:58:23 AM PST by humblegunner (My KungFu is ten times power.©)
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To: burzum

Most of the mass of the earth is in the core which is composed primarily of nickel and iron. The light stuff, oxygen, silicon, carbon, nitrogen, etc. is found mostly in the crust.


73 posted on 01/04/2008 4:09:41 AM PST by reg45
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To: reg45
You overestimate the amount of nickel and underestimate the amount of oxygen. From a simple analysis of nuclear fusion in stars the base material of iron and oxygen is obvious. Additionally, while there is certainly a higher concentration of silicates in the crust than in the mantle, the concentration of silicon is still fairly high for the Earth as a whole. The core certainly does have a higher percentage of nickel in the core, but that is only 4%. I don't know what reference you used to get your crazy belief that silicon and oxygen aren't major players in the mantle or that the mass of the core is larger than that of the mantle and crust combined, but as far as the elemental concentrations this is the reference you should use.
74 posted on 01/04/2008 11:44:53 AM PST by burzum (None shall see me, though my battlecry may give me away -Minsc)
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To: Creationist; humblegunner

So in your view, it would be impossible to see any object in space more than 6000 light years away?


75 posted on 01/04/2008 1:25:22 PM PST by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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To: Creationist

Your attempt to try use inferences to discount science and yet at the same time use even more absurd inferences to support creation is laughable. Even worse, most of your claims are flat out wrong. Nice try. Have you ever taken a physics class, a geology class, or an astronomy class? If not, then I suggest you do so that you will stop embarrassing yourself.

I doubt that you see any problem with these falsities since you are arguing from a conclusion. You ‘know’ you are right so it doesn’t really matter what reasoning you use to validate that point, correct?


76 posted on 01/04/2008 1:50:24 PM PST by burzum (None shall see me, though my battlecry may give me away -Minsc)
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To: Ditto; humblegunner
This is one of the propagates of long ages is that the light from distant stars could not have reached us on planet earth in only 6000 years if God created the heavens and earth as it is written in Genesis.

Now let it be said here and now I do not believe the Bible is a science book by no means. I believe it is the Living Word of God, It is timeless in meaning, written for everyone to read and understand if studied as it is commanded within the pages of it, it is infallible.
There are no embellishments, wrong accounts, partial truths.

With that said, I do have an answer to the question.

Psalm 104:"2": Who coverest thyself with light as with a garment: who stretchest out the heavens like a curtain

Isaiah 40"22": It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:

It is interesting to note that they new the earth was round then.

Here is the part that those with presuppositions that God does not exist and nothing created everything view, have to come to grips with.

God whose name is Jesus created it all in perfect working order 6000 years ago plus or minus a couple thousand years for error.

The heaven and the earth were created first. This heaven is the atmosphere of the earth, it was not until the forth day does the heaven of outer space get created. If you read the two scriptures you will note that the heaven of outer space was stretched out from the earth.

That is not scientific language but it is easy to understand what is being said.

Here is an example, I know it is crude but I am sure it portrays the event to some degree.

You are on a road that is 10 miles long straight as an arrow you are unimpeded by the curvature of the earth.
There is this 1964 1/2 Ford Mustang at the end and it is dark out.
You have a super sophisticated stop watch set up.
Some one in the car turns on the head light.
Bam you have just recorded how long it took for the light to reach your location. You feel good the money spent on the stop watch has paid for it self, you have confirmed the speed of light to within the millionth.

You are smart people want to give you money.

Now someone suggests lets do another experiment, OK.
Lets take the car and start from the location that the stop watch is at and turn on the head lights and drive backwards for the ten miles and see how long it takes for the light to reach our stop watch.

Jesus is all powerful he created the stars at earths location and stretched out the outer space heaven from earth. So since the light began here and was moved to the location we see it now.
77 posted on 01/05/2008 11:45:25 AM PST by Creationist (May the Lord Jesus bless you.)
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To: burzum
I thank you for your criticism.

Though you make none.

You have only bashed my character and have not shown evidence that what I have learned both in public indoctrination centers and through my own research is untrue.

I am sure you believe everything you are told or taught by government official they would never lie to you.

So when you have something to show me I will patiently wait and reply.
78 posted on 01/05/2008 11:50:57 AM PST by Creationist (May the Lord Jesus bless you.)
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To: bill1952
It wasn’t transported by spaceships?
79 posted on 01/05/2008 11:53:01 AM PST by Rush4U
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To: Creationist
Jesus is all powerful he created the stars at earths location

Stars are suns.

Why didn't the earth get incinerated if God (not Jesus) created them here?

80 posted on 01/06/2008 2:50:27 AM PST by humblegunner (My KungFu is ten times power.©)
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