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Joseph Smith: Creator of the Fourth Abrahamic Faith; Mormonism
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| September 15, 2007
| G. Richard Jansen
Posted on 11/14/2007 8:28:07 AM PST by fortcollins
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Although Mormon theology contains some elements of Christianity it is not Christian theology nor does it reflect Christian understandings of the nature of God and Christ. In addition nor does it reflect Christian history. Indeed it is diametrically opposed to what is known historically about Christianity. Joseph Smith said to his followers Ye are the children of Israel and of the seed of Abraham. Mormonism can best be understood as a fourth Abrahamic faith.
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To: fortcollins
when was "Christian Understanding" Christian Theology or the Nature of Christianity codified...how was this determined?
How do the different sects (denominations?) of Christians recognize other Christians?
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posted on
11/14/2007 8:35:20 AM PST
by
rface
(kooky inside and out)
To: rface; Gamecock
The Nicene Creed is an very good start.
Comments from the GRPL swarm?
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posted on
11/14/2007 8:37:40 AM PST
by
fishtank
("Patriotic Nationalism?" - YES!!!....."Globalist Multiculturalism?" - NO!!!,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,)
To: fishtank
oops .....”a” very good start....
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posted on
11/14/2007 8:38:04 AM PST
by
fishtank
("Patriotic Nationalism?" - YES!!!....."Globalist Multiculturalism?" - NO!!!,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,)
To: fishtank
The Nicene Creed is an very good start.When was that "creed" developed. What were Christians before the Nicene Creed?
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posted on
11/14/2007 8:38:50 AM PST
by
rface
(kooky inside and out)
To: fortcollins
Ishmael was not born of Abraham, but born of Abram and a slave girl.
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posted on
11/14/2007 8:38:57 AM PST
by
Uri’el-2012
(you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
To: JackRyanCIA
Mormonism started off by saying that they were not in any way connected with the standard Christian denominations......
... that sounds like a prudent policy....
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posted on
11/14/2007 8:39:30 AM PST
by
fishtank
("Patriotic Nationalism?" - YES!!!....."Globalist Multiculturalism?" - NO!!!,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,)
To: XeniaSt
I believe that Abram and Abraham are the same person
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posted on
11/14/2007 8:40:20 AM PST
by
rface
(kooky inside and out)
To: fishtank
Polygamy
I was first. Woot!
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posted on
11/14/2007 8:40:29 AM PST
by
AppyPappy
(If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
To: rface
I’ll have to get back to you later on this....... best wishes to you and the rest of the participants on this thread for a while until I can return.....
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posted on
11/14/2007 8:40:36 AM PST
by
fishtank
("Patriotic Nationalism?" - YES!!!....."Globalist Multiculturalism?" - NO!!!,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,)
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To: rface
Not if you are familiar with the Holy Word of G-d.
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posted on
11/14/2007 8:41:13 AM PST
by
Uri’el-2012
(you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
To: fortcollins
Only a small handful of Smiths followers were allowed to see the plates. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure I've read that he never showed anyone the golden plates. He kept giving some story about why he cant show them and then the final story was that he buried them somewhere.
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posted on
11/14/2007 8:42:04 AM PST
by
SwankyC
To: rface
By the belief in the one true God, who has been forever, and his son Jesus who died for our sins and the Bible is the infallible Word of God. No wiggle room.
Mormons believe that God was once a man like them and ascended to “godship” just as some Mormons will do. They also place the Book of Mormon above the Bible as pathway to salvation. To Christians God has always been and will always be.
Mormons will talk with you and use many terms Christian use but they do not mean the same. Like the pathway to salvation to them means a totally different thing than what it means to Christians.
There are plenty more differences.
To: fishtank
Mormonism started off by saying that they were not in any way connected with the standard Christian denominations...... except for the fact that they use standard editions of the Bible .... often the KJ version as Holy scripture and authoritative reference
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posted on
11/14/2007 8:43:09 AM PST
by
rface
(kooky inside and out)
To: fortcollins
What does the bible say about false prophets?
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posted on
11/14/2007 8:43:16 AM PST
by
GreenOgre
(mohammed is the false prophet of a false god.)
To: F15Eagle
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posted on
11/14/2007 8:45:36 AM PST
by
Uri’el-2012
(you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
To: SwankyC
His supposed Egyptian scrolls that he found in Pennsylvania that he interpreted to say a tribe of Israelis came to America in 600 BC then later when scholars decoded them said nothing like he ( Smith ) said. The Mormon answer is the original scrolls have been misplaced or stolen.
Mormonism is based on the ramblings of one man, just like Islam, they are just more peaceful aside from the few massacres they have had.
To: fortcollins
Joseph Smith and Muhammed each claimed to be the last, not merely the latest, but the last Prophet of God The author states several similarities between Islam and Joe Smith but does not state this one...polygamy.
Personally, I think both false religions were started because their founders wanted to rebel against the christian tradition of monogamy.
In other words...they were sexual addicts.
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