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To: fortcollins

Ishmael was not born of Abraham, but born of Abram and a slave girl.

7 posted on 11/14/2007 8:38:57 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)

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To: XeniaSt

I believe that Abram and Abraham are the same person

9 posted on 11/14/2007 8:40:20 AM PST by rface (kooky inside and out)

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