LDS defend the faith as Christian

The Salt Lake Tribune ^ | 10/07/07 | By Peggy Fletcher Stack

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Not only is Mormonism a Christian faith, it is the truest form of Christianity, said speaker after speaker on the first day of the 177th Semiannual LDS General Conference. LDS authorities were responding to the allegation that Mormonism isn't part of Christianity. Made by different mainline Protestant and Catholic churches and repeated constantly during coverage of Mitt Romney's presidential campaign, the claim is based on Mormonism's beliefs about God, its rejection of ancient ideas about the Trinity still widely accepted, and the LDS Church's extra-biblical scriptures. "It is not our purpose to demean any person's belief nor the doctrine of any religion," said Apostle Jeffrey R. Holland in the afternoon session. "But if one says we are not Christians because we do not hold a fourth- or fifth-century view of the Godhead, then what of those first [Christians], many of whom were eye-witnesses of the living Christ, who did not hold such a view either?"

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The day's sermons included many familiar themes, including the importance of faith, the need for pure thoughts and actions, avoiding pornography reaching out to neighbors and eliminating spiritual procrastination. Hinckley talked about the destructive nature of anger in marriages, on the road, and in life, urging Mormons to "control your tempers, to put a smile upon your faces, which will erase anger; speak with words of love and peace, appreciation and respect."

[Old Mountain man]

That is obviously a stupidly false inference. The level of committment of the members attracted me.

[Elsie]

both

 

 

BOTH!!??

 

 

Then you better change your sentence from this: The conflict is how to control my anger at the WAY you speak of my church, not of what you finally get around to saying.

                                                              to this: The conflict is how to control my anger at the WAY you speak of my church, AND of what you finally get around to saying.

 

 

 

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To: Elsie

So; you’re comflicted about it.

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The conflict is how to control my anger at the WAY you speak of my church, not of what you finally get around to saying.

1,186 posted on 11/01/2007 2:45:18 AM CDT by fproy2222 (If you want to know the truth, study both sides. To the most original source.)

 

[Elsie]

And yet it is writen, and close to youe sound bite.

Why won't YOU post it and explain it as you've been taught?

[Old Mountain man]

Really? Now you have made a statement that could be construed as a personal attack. I challenge you to back it up with a quote where I discriminated against anyone. If you cannot, I demand an apology.

[Old Mountain man]

There you go again.

[Old Mountain man]

Now Elsie, there you go again.

[Elsie]

What am I supposed to think?

Who knows??

But the rest of us think that she is picking on you; you poor, weak, molehill of a man.

Come cry on Mommy's shoulder.

She'll give you a cookie and some Jello®!

[Old Mountain man]

That appears to be from lds.org and I am not in a tizzy. You seem to be in a tizzy. Are you?

[greyfoxx39]

AMEN!

[Old Mountain man]

Well, pick your enemies carefully. Remember who wishes you ill. Remember who wishes to take away your right to worship as you choose. Remember who will drop you into a reeducation camp.

I have none of the characteristics of your enemy. Remember that.

[Old Mountain man]

I repeat, why do you think it is any of your business whether or not I have a Temple Recommend? What possible concern is that of yours?

I can’t see that it is of any possible legitimate concern to you and it is merely fishing for ammunition for some sort of personal attack.

[Elsie]

 You ought to read the standard works as a whole if you are going to spend your life telling me what is wrong with my Church.

 

 You ought to read the BIBLE if you are going to try to tell us what is RIGHT about the LDS organization!

 

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NIV Acts 17:16-23
 16.  While Paul was waiting for them in Athens, he was greatly distressed to see that the city was full of idols.
 17.  So he reasoned in the synagogue with the Jews and the God-fearing Greeks, as well as in the marketplace day by day with those who happened to be there.
 18.  A group of Epicurean and Stoic philosophers began to dispute with him. Some of them asked, "What is this babbler trying to say?" Others remarked, "He seems to be advocating foreign gods." They said this because Paul was preaching the good news about Jesus and the resurrection.
 19.  Then they took him and brought him to a meeting of the Areopagus, where they said to him, "May we know what this new teaching is that you are presenting?
 20.  You are bringing some strange ideas to our ears, and we want to know what they mean."
 21.  (All the Athenians and the foreigners who lived there spent their time doing nothing but talking about and listening to the latest ideas.)
 22.  Paul then stood up in the meeting of the Areopagus and said: "Men of Athens! I see that in every way you are very religious.

 

 

NIV Acts 18:11
   So Paul stayed for a year and a half, teaching them the word of God.

 

NIV 1 Corinthians 4:17
   For this reason I am sending to you Timothy, my son whom I love, who is faithful in the Lord. He will remind you of my way of life in Christ Jesus, which agrees with what I teach everywhere in every church.

 

NIV 1 Corinthians 11:2-3
   I praise you for remembering me in everything and for holding to the teachings,  just as I passed them on to you.

 

 

NIV 2 Thessalonians 2:15-16
   So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the teachings  we passed on to you, whether by word of mouth or by letter.
 

 

NIV 2 Timothy 1:13
   What you heard from me, keep as the pattern of sound teaching, with faith and love in Christ Jesus.
 

 

NIV 2 Timothy 3:14-15
 14.  But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have become convinced of, because you know those from whom you learned it,
 15.  and how from infancy you have known the holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus.

[greyfoxx39]

It is YOUR scriptures that have you in such a tizzy!

You want to see a TIZZY?

Just post the words of our PROPHETS!

(You know, the words in the books that we don't CLAIM, unless they make OUR points!)

MormonDudette(You missed that one, Els!)

[Elsie]

I like that tag!

This one??

(If you want to know the truth, study both sides. To the most original source.)

Try that on the BoM!!!

maybe an angel will bring it back some day.

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Try that on the Book of Abraham!

Oooops!!

They have, haven't they...

Oh well; we STILL believe what JS said about; no matter WHAT learned men say nowadays!

[Elsie]

You promulgate a falsehood without answering a direct question.

Mr. Pot, I'd like you to meet Mr. Kettle.

Why don't YOU believe the NT verses I've POSTED?

[Elsie]

I knew Ronald Reagan.

OMM; you’re no RR!

[Elsie]

The level of committment of the members attracted me.

CommiTted to WHAT???

Were not BOTH the Baptists and the LDS members doing the SAME THING??

[greyfoxx39]

When dear little Elsie uses the tone she uses, it sounds like a personal attack. When she refuses to acknowledge the plain language of the New Testament, it sounds like a personal attack.

What am I supposed to think?

That you need a new hearing aid...yours is now READING MINDS!

[greyfoxx39]

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