LDS defend the faith as Christian

The Salt Lake Tribune ^ | 10/07/07 | By Peggy Fletcher Stack

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Not only is Mormonism a Christian faith, it is the truest form of Christianity, said speaker after speaker on the first day of the 177th Semiannual LDS General Conference. LDS authorities were responding to the allegation that Mormonism isn't part of Christianity. Made by different mainline Protestant and Catholic churches and repeated constantly during coverage of Mitt Romney's presidential campaign, the claim is based on Mormonism's beliefs about God, its rejection of ancient ideas about the Trinity still widely accepted, and the LDS Church's extra-biblical scriptures. "It is not our purpose to demean any person's belief nor the doctrine of any religion," said Apostle Jeffrey R. Holland in the afternoon session. "But if one says we are not Christians because we do not hold a fourth- or fifth-century view of the Godhead, then what of those first [Christians], many of whom were eye-witnesses of the living Christ, who did not hold such a view either?"

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The day's sermons included many familiar themes, including the importance of faith, the need for pure thoughts and actions, avoiding pornography reaching out to neighbors and eliminating spiritual procrastination. Hinckley talked about the destructive nature of anger in marriages, on the road, and in life, urging Mormons to "control your tempers, to put a smile upon your faces, which will erase anger; speak with words of love and peace, appreciation and respect."

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Can you tell us why he used that example with his mother, it is important.
Now you want ME to be a mindreader, too??

If ol’ JS didn’t leave a clue as to why he told his momma that, I guess you guys will STILL have an answer; somehow.

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And yet it is writen, and close to youe sound bite.

[fproy2222]

thank you!

[fproy2222]

play the victim

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picked on, but never a victim.

[fproy2222]

pretty picture

[fproy2222]

Side subject:

When I lived in Mississippi, I remember seeing a front license plate that said-——Try LDS — Not LSD——

It wasn’t until a few years later that I knew what it meant.

[fproy2222]

We are after all entering the Christmas season, so a good hearty “bowl full of jelly” laugh will do us all some good.

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Please, easy on the bowl full of jelly thing. I am over 400 pounds (big and fat), have white hair and beard, and often where red.

[Utah Binger]

So are you saying that the hypocritical actions of some speak for the doctrines of their Church? They certainly don’t speak for me. It sounds like you KNOW some real doozies!!

I know lots of dishonest Mormon doozies. Many are not able to have the courage to declare their disbelief because of family and social reasons. Many others that are on the fence scream loudly to show off for the true believers. That was me. Finally I did an honest thing and admitted to family and friends that I had never believed.

This morning on Bill Bennett he was talking about the strong people he had known and in particular Margaret Thatcher. The point about her was she was never on the fence and that she always had a positive yes or no. That honesty is my personal goal.

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Thatcher. The point about her was she was never on the fence and that she always had a positive yes or no. That honesty is my personal goal.

That too is my goal. (No wonder I adore you Bing). Often I fail, but I'm getting better!

Since leaving belief in Mormonism I value truth first. NO FENCE SITTING. Let your nay be nay and your yea, be yea!

[Elsie]

My BACKSPACE key must be misfiring!

[Elsie]

..I would suggest a Presbyterian Church in America congregation, ...

Way to tweak a nose!!

[Elsie]

"...truth is loved in such a way that those who love some other thing want it to be the truth, and, precisely because they do not wish to be deceived, are unwilling to be convinced that they are deceived." -- St. Augustine

Too long for a tagline...sighhhh.

1,250 posted on 11/01/2007 5:20:48 PM CDT by greyfoxx39 (I have a tagline . I just don't think the forum police will allow me to use it. THEY'RE EVERYWHERE!)

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Trick: smaller font!

 

 

1,250 posted on 11/01/2007 5:20:48 PM CDT by greyfoxx39 ("...truth is loved in such a way that those who love some other thing want it to be the truth, and, precisely because they do not wish to be deceived, are unwilling to be convinced that they are deceived." -- St. Augustine )

"...truth is loved in such a way that those who love some other thing want it to be the truth, and, precisely because they do not wish to be deceived, are unwilling to be convinced that they are deceived." -- St. Augustine

Too long for a tagline...sighhhh.

[Elsie]

Well, considering that you only believe in less than half of the New Testament, you would tend to be rather untrustworthy yourself.

Why don't YOU believe the NT verses I've POSTED?

[Elsie]

That’s easy. I didn’t reject them. Why can’t you answer a civil question?

True; you just ignore them.

[Elsie]

Now do you understand the impact? Or do you just not want to hear it? Is this a personal vendetta with you?

So mere numbers, instead of theology, swayed you.

[Elsie]

You figure it out.

I have - you are very discriminating against those who do not adhere to what the LDS organization, SLC branch, puts out.

[Elsie]

And you do not do the things you say you will do. What does that make you?

Able to see that you cannot answer questions posed to you.

[Elsie]

Nice that you can find lds.org.  I invite you to study all of the standard works that are posted there.

 

 

I do!!!

 

Just WHERE do you think these things COME from...

 

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THE BOOK OF JACOB
THE BROTHER OF NEPHI

CHAPTER 2

 

  24 Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord.
  25 Wherefore, thus saith the Lord, I have led this people forth out of the land of Jerusalem, by the power of mine arm, that I might raise up unto me a righteous branch from the fruit of the loins of Joseph.
  26 Wherefore, I the Lord God will not suffer that this people shall do like unto them of old.
  27 Wherefore, my brethren, hear me, and hearken to the word of the Lord: For there shall not any man among you have save it be one wife; and concubines he shall have none;
  28 For I, the Lord God, delight in the chastity of women. And whoredoms are an abomination before me; thus saith the Lord of Hosts.
  29 Wherefore, this people shall keep my commandments, saith the Lord of Hosts, or cursed be the land for their sakes.
  30 For if I will, saith the Lord of Hosts, raise up seed unto me, I will command my people; otherwise they shall hearken unto these things.
  31 For behold, I, the Lord, have seen the sorrow, and heard the mourning of the daughters of my people in the land of Jerusalem, yea, and in all the lands of my people, because of the wickedness and abominations of their husbands.
  32 And I will not suffer, saith the Lord of Hosts, that the cries of the fair daughters of this people, which I have led out of the land of Jerusalem, shall come up unto me against the men of my people, saith the Lord of Hosts.

 

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...an ANTI- site??

 

It is YOUR scriptures that have you in such a tizzy!

[Elsie]

The point is that you are attacking my Church out of wilful ignorance.

Wrong again: pay attention!!

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The point is that I am exposing your Church out of wilful(l) knowledge!

[Elsie]

Why do you think that is any of your business?

Spoken like a man without one!

[Elsie]

There ya go again.... ignoring verse 30.

30 “For if I will, saith the Lord of Hosts, raise up seed unto me, I will command my people; otherwise they shall hearken unto these things.”

There ya go again.... trying to make the LDS organization's output say something that it doesn't.

Perhaps your can SHOW me, from your scriptures, just WHERE god COMMANDED JS to take more wives?