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Knowing Mary Through the Bible: New Wine, New Eve
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| EDWARD P. SRI
Posted on 09/27/2007 11:58:52 AM PDT by NYer
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posted on
09/27/2007 11:58:55 AM PDT
by
NYer
To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...
For reflection and discussion.
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posted on
09/27/2007 11:59:46 AM PDT
by
NYer
("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
To: NYer
Here comes the usual suspects...
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posted on
09/27/2007 12:03:03 PM PDT
by
Pyro7480
("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
To: NYer
Luke 1:48 For behold, henceforth all generations will call me blessed.
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posted on
09/27/2007 12:08:45 PM PDT
by
Titanites
To: NYer
Everytime I reflect on the wedding at Cana I can’t help but focus on Mary’s last words there (as well as her last word’s in the bible) “do whatever He tells you”. It is as though she knew this were the last words we would have from her and she wants us to follow them for eternity.
Do whatever He tells you... sounds easy enough.
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posted on
09/27/2007 12:17:22 PM PDT
by
CTK YKC
To: NYer
Good essay, I think he gets most of it right. But . . . he doesn’t solve the mystery in it for me. What did Christ mean when he said “my hour has not yet come” and yet he performed the miracle? I have some ideas but I want others opinions. I think that refusing his mother would have been sinful, so Christ did not refuse her, even though his hour had not yet come. I think that it means that God’s plan is not as rigid as some might think, that a request, a prayer can alter God’s plan. But . . . I don’t hold these opinions strongly. Interested in other views.
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posted on
09/27/2007 12:17:56 PM PDT
by
Greg F
(Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
To: CTK YKC
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posted on
09/27/2007 12:19:20 PM PDT
by
Greg F
(Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
To: CTK YKC
Do whatever He tells you... sounds easy enough.Simple, but not easy. Love your enemies, deny yourself and take up your cross daily, sell all you have and give to the poor ... not easy.
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posted on
09/27/2007 12:24:31 PM PDT
by
Tax-chick
(I am snide and not intellectual today. How are you doing?)
To: CTK YKC
Do whatever He tells you... sounds easy enough. Easy enough to remember ... not always easy to actually do.
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posted on
09/27/2007 12:28:21 PM PDT
by
ArrogantBustard
(Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
To: NYer
Nice interpretation of "woman". I like that.
It never bothered me, because in our Scottish tradition a Gaelic-speaking Highlander has always addressed his mother as "woman" -- "A bhean!"
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posted on
09/27/2007 12:34:44 PM PDT
by
AnAmericanMother
((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
To: Pyro7480
Here comes the usual suspects...Why bother your minds are made up.
Let's just agree that Mary was a wonderful woman who was given a special mission, to give birth to our Saviour Jesus the Christ, and leave it at that. ;-)
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posted on
09/27/2007 12:42:47 PM PDT
by
wmfights
(LUKE 9:49-50 , MARK 9:38-41)
To: wmfights
Why bother your minds are made up. Yours isn't?
To: AnAmericanMother
I’ve always suspected that “woman” in these cases was badly translated; that “Ma’am” or “Milady” would better convey the connotation of what Our Lord was saying.
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posted on
09/27/2007 12:46:18 PM PDT
by
ArrogantBustard
(Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
To: Titanites
Yours isn't?Fair enough. Our minds are made up. ;-0
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posted on
09/27/2007 12:47:23 PM PDT
by
wmfights
(LUKE 9:49-50 , MARK 9:38-41)
To: ArrogantBustard; NYer
Well, there
isn't an honorific in Gaelic for "ma'am" or "mrs." -- maybe it's the same case in Aramaic, I don't know.
NYer, have you ever asked your pastor about this one?
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posted on
09/27/2007 12:50:23 PM PDT
by
AnAmericanMother
((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
To: NYer
At risk of lightning, I offer the following....
Jesus and Mary: New wine, new skin.
Sarah, Rebeccah, Rachel, Hannah, Elizabeth .... all old bags.
It only makes sense.... ;-)
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posted on
09/27/2007 12:53:09 PM PDT
by
r9etb
To: Greg F
It was a good essay yes; I hope someone has some insights into your question, I’d like to hear a good analysis too.
To: r9etb
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posted on
09/27/2007 1:02:59 PM PDT
by
ArrogantBustard
(Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
To: FourtySeven; Greg F
It really raises the question of what any prayer is about. God knows all things eternally ... including what you are going to pray for and that you are going to pray for it. So, is prayer about "changing God's mind" or is it about us growing in our relationship with God?
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posted on
09/27/2007 1:06:15 PM PDT
by
ArrogantBustard
(Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
To: ArrogantBustard
So, is prayer about "changing God's mind" or is it about us growing in our relationship with God? Or, is it something that helps to transform our natures, lifting our blindness, so we're better able to see God's work within us?
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