Posted on 07/23/2007 3:36:15 PM PDT by annalex
Good job on attacking the messenger. Someone that you do not know and have no idea what he stands for. The fact of the matter is that Catholics for years have had to walk out to their cars and find really stupid "tracts" on their windshields that attack their beliefs. Generally those tracts are put together by people who are either ignorant or liars. One does not have to be a "coastal elite leftist" to see this.
(not to mention the whining about the persecution of his "indigenous" ancestors by big bad Anglo-Saxons; that gets old too).
Yes, pointing out that the British were barbarians in Ireland is so passe. We should all know about every single instance where a Catholic misbehaved but we must never show where Protestants that they have behaved themselves more like Muslims toward their conquered subjects than Christian. That's just "old".
Let the Catholic Church stop teaching that the Bible is mythology and a great deal of my own hostility will end.
Could you show me in the Catechism where the Catholic Church teaches that? If not, retract it and admit that you are doing exactly what the author describes. It is hilarious how people describe "what Catholic believe" and then attack what they say Catholic believe.
Catholics have been hit over the head with the Bible by Protestants for so long that they've come to distrust it.
Please provide an an example of this or retract your statement and admit that you are full of it.
Now they've convinced themselves that total inerrancy is merely an adjunct of "sola scriptura" so now they're against it.
I say this in all charity. You have absolutely no idea about the topic you are speaking of. Your understanding of Catholicism is so far off that it is almost laughable. Please read up on the topics and when you have an understanding of Catholic teaching (the real kind not the Dave Hunt version) you can add serious commentary on Church issues.
**Indeed. When I read the threads, I sense a lot of anger and outright hatred a few posters have for the Catholic Church. It is impossible to have civil discussions with some of them.**
You are correct. So in my analysis, we must always pray for them, IN LOVE.
As a Catholic I have great sympathy for your statement. A lot of the goofballs that attack Catholicism with lies and slander do the same with Mormonism. I have serious theological problems with Mormonism but most Mormons I know are wonderful people.
Do you ever find Roman Catholic tracts that attack your faith left on your car during Church services?
Proving that all the other times that the bible uses the word dead, the bible was wrong. Boy that was helpful.
Nicely put.
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The equalization of Mary's motherhood to all Christian Mothers. Luke 8: 20,21
That doesn't make any sense at all, you know.
So what it comes down to is that we say, "Believing the Bible and what Christ says in it, we do not think Mary and the saints are dead." And what we get back is, "Praying to the dead is unbiblical."
But I think he's captured how this usually spins.
It makes perfect sense when RC's try to remove the use of the word dead from Christian vocabulary thus nullifying the scripture. Kind of like Jesus pointed out that the Pharasees do regarding giving gifts to parents.
Are Christians alive in Christ even after their bodies die, yes or no?
Does the word dead mean anything at all in the bible yes or no?
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Not all mothers, all virtuous mothers.
One verse does not negate the others, especially the role of Mary alone combatting the Devil on behalf of her multitude of children in Apocalypse. Also note that "they who hear the word of God, and do it" is a tall order that does not get met by everyone to the same degree as Mary. But, yes, we all should reach to sanctification, -- that is Catholic teaching. This is why we venerate all saints, not just Mary.
You have not answered my question: Were Moses and Elijah dead or alive when they appeared with Jesus at His Transfiguration?
Exactly!! Your verse never meant what you seem to think it means. You venerate all saints? That is because you have redefined the word saint. In the bible it has a much simpler meaning.
They are every bit as alive as everyone else is that has died. They are in the same state as the dead were which we were told in the OT not to talk to.
My father and 4 of my 6 uncles were cops. I was once called to jury duty and felt that I'd be bounced for sure for that reason. I wasn't. During "voir dire" the defense lawyer asked me if I could be impartial. I told him that I could but that if the person had been arrested by the police, I was certain they were guilty because the police only arrest guilty people. I got to read a good book the rest of the afternoon.
Very interesting... So, confess to us why YOU are guilty!
***They are in the same state as the dead were which we were told in the OT not to talk to.***
Then why did Jesus talk to them? see verse 3
Peter, James, and John clearly saw them, since Peter asked Jesus if he should make booths for the three of them. verse 4
If this was prohibited, why did Jesus do it and why did He allow Peter, James, and John to witness it?
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