Anti-Catholicism, Hypocrisy and Double Standards

ConstantinesRant ^ | Sunday, July 22, 2007 | Constantine

[DungeonMaster]

I’ve read de Montfort. While it did not do much for me it certainly did not cause me to ponder leaving Christ and his Church. Certainly not for something like Protestantism. Any movement that has an absurd belief like Sola Scriptura, that doesn’t come out of the Bible has no appeal to me. Frankly, if I were a Prot I would cease obsessing about, lying about and distorting the views of Catholics and worry about the Rapture bunnies and other nuts from within your own ‘movement’.

Well that's one RC opinion, just 999,999,999 more wildly differing RC opinions for me to collect. The RC system is designed to support hugh diversity of opinion and doctrine by virtue of man made complexity.

[annalex]

DeMontfort begins with fairy tale and progresses into full blown idolatry.

Nothing of the kind. It is an insightful meditation on the Incarnation.

[DungeonMaster]

DeMontfort begins with fairy tale and progresses into full blown idolatry.

Nothing of the kind. It is an insightful meditation on the Incarnation.

7. The saints have said wonderful things of Mary, the holy City of God, and, as they themselves admit, they were never more eloquent and more pleased than when they spoke of her. And yet they maintain that the height of her merits rising up to the throne of the Godhead cannot be perceived;

Not idolatry....riiiiight.

[Alexius]

Well that's one RC opinion, just 999,999,999 more wildly differing RC opinions for me to collect.

The only view you should be looking at is the Catechism of the Catholic Church. Not Catholics on FR. Not Dave Hunt or any other Prot goofball who makes up lies about the Church. It is rather easy to find what Catholicism teaches. But we know that you don't care about the 'official Catechism' You want to isolate random quotes and random statements. That's okay, you're Protestant. That's what y'all do.

The RC system is designed to support hugh diversity of opinion and doctrine by virtue of man made complexity.

LOL. I love how you're the expert on Catholicism. Tell you what. Do some book learnin outside of Prot sources. It is hilarious that you are discussing a system that has diversity of opinion when your own heresy has thousands of sects. Every time a Prot gets a new idea in his head he starts his own 'church'. In terms of things man-made, again look at your own group. The whole heresy is a movement started because Luther had Daddy issues. This is demonstrated very well by the fact that some of his core teachings contradict the Bible and even themselves. Sola Scriptura not being in the Bible for instance.

[annalex]

Do you know what “idolatry” means?

[DungeonMaster]

Do you know what “idolatry” means?

It's pretty easy, worship of something that isn't God.

[annalex]

Very well. So where do you see it in the quote you posted?

[DungeonMaster]

Very well. So where do you see it in the quote you posted?

You've already made it clear that you don't see it there so I won't bother pointing out that the whole thing is idolatrous.

[annalex]

I don’t see it because it is not there.

[Cronos]

Well that's one RC opinion, just 999,999,999 more wildly differing RC opinions for me to collect

Right -- de Montford is just an OPINION. His works are NOT Church doctrine.

[Cronos]

The Church allows you to talk about beliefs WITHIN the Church, but it maintains strict doctrine. I agree with Alexius about Protestant groups that break up on a whim -- I know an Aunt who joined an evangelical group that split 5 times in 4 years on things as silly as location, one "pastor" who spoke rudely once, etc. etc.

The Protestant split led to groups like the Jehovah's witnesses, Mormons, Unitarians, etc.

[Rome2000]

Every time a Prot gets a new idea in his head he starts his own 'church'.

I saw some doozies today while driving thru central florida. One had a cross contructed out of 4 inch diameter white PVC Sch. 40 pipe.

It must have been 150 feet high.

[DungeonMaster]

Right -- de Montford is just an OPINION. His works are NOT Church doctrine.

I've already pointed out why that argument doesn't work at all.

[Cronos]

your "point" about it doesn't make any sense at all -- I, along with the other Catholics here TOLD you that de Montford's beliefs are NOT Catholic doctrine. The Popes do not say at any point that de Montford's beliefs are HIGHER than The Catechism. de Montford's points are just opinions, NOT Catholic doctrine.

Are your opinions on any issue, religious or not, absolute doctrine on everyone else?

[DungeonMaster]

your "point" about it doesn't make any sense at all -- I, along with the other Catholics here TOLD you that de Montford's beliefs are NOT Catholic doctrine. The Popes do not say at any point that de Montford's beliefs are HIGHER than The Catechism. de Montford's points are just opinions, NOT Catholic doctrine.

So. No one in the RCC is in any dissuaded from holding those opinions. In fact they are clearly encouraged to hold them. Your objection is a mere technicality.

[Cronos]

So. No one in the RCC is in any dissuaded from holding those opinions. In fact they are clearly encouraged to hold them. Your objection is a mere technicality

Where do you come up with "they are clearly encouraged to hold them"? You're making up tales.