[DungeonMaster]

One verse does not negate the others, especially the role of Mary alone combatting the Devil on behalf of her multitude of children in Apocalypse. Also note that "they who hear the word of God, and do it" is a tall order that does not get met by everyone to the same degree as Mary. But, yes, we all should reach to sanctification, -- that is Catholic teaching. This is why we venerate all saints, not just Mary.

Exactly!! Your verse never meant what you seem to think it means. You venerate all saints? That is because you have redefined the word saint. In the bible it has a much simpler meaning.

[annalex]

Your verse never meant what you seem to think it means.

What I think is inimportant. The verse means what the Church explains it means. If you have an aberrant interpretation, you are entitled to it, and the risk attendant to private interpretations of the Bible is also yours.

you have redefined the word saint

The argument is not about words. We venerate those who after suffering death are alive in communion with Christ: they are our example and we ask their prayers. We do not similarly venerate living saints, because Christ warns against judging people privately. We do, of course, ask living people to pray for us every time, even though we cannot make assumption of them going to heaven yet.