[attiladhun2]

I am a modified dispensationalist who believes the pre-tribbies are holding to a doctrine that has almost no scriptural basis. Nothing in the Bible indicates the church in an Age of Apostasy will be “raptured” out and not face the winnowing process that has been the fate of Christians in every age.

[fishtank]

agreed

http://www.endtime.com

That site is run by Oneness Pentecostals but they have pretty good end times teaching.

[cripplecreek]

Only God knows the time.

[streetpreacher]

I agree with that although I don’t know that I am a “modified dispensationalist” being that I don’t know what it is. ;-)

For now, I am content with the label: historic premillenialist.

I’m open to learn more though.

[LiteKeeper]

Food for thought...

Is Christ's Return Imminent?

[aft_lizard]

I suppose in the great scheme of things it doesn’t matter.

[CA Conservative]

So you are of the opinion that God will have his Bride suffer His Wrath along with the unbelievers of the world?

[The_Reader_David]

I haven’t a clue what a ‘modified dispensationlist’ is, but the Fathers of the Church uniformly applied the Scriptural passages adduced in support of the notion of a ‘rapture’ to the experience of Christians alive at the time of the General Resurrection.

The ‘pre-tribulation rapture’ is a 19th century innovation, and is heresy even without a conciliar condemnation.

[tnarg]

true

[D Rider]

You mistake tribulations for the great tribulation. Also Hebrew prophesy is pattern. You should restudy the last time the earth was judged. If there is a rapture to come, you will find your answer there.

[xzins]

There are actually a number of arguments for a pre-trib rapture.

And for a mid-trib

And end-trib

and no trib

etc.

They all have their arguments. The question is whether folks know what they are.

[fortheDeclaration]

I am a modified dispensationalist who believes the pre-tribbies are holding to a doctrine that has almost no scriptural basis. Nothing in the Bible indicates the church in an Age of Apostasy will be “raptured” out and not face the winnowing process that has been the fate of Christians in every age.

You are not a dispensationalist at all if you think that the Church is going to go through the time of Jacobs trouble,(Jer.30) Daniels 70th week (Daniel 9).

The Church must be taken home before the Tribulation begins since the Tribulation is for the Jews, not the Church.

The Church returns with Christ in Rev.19 to set up His Millennial reign.

[editor-surveyor]

"Nothing in the Bible indicates the church in an Age of Apostasy will be “raptured” out and not face the winnowing process that has been the fate of Christians in every age."

You need to re-read the parable of the wise virgins a few hundred more times, until it sinks in. Also read the letter to the Philadelphian congregation in Revelation. The message is there, and it is strong; you just don't want to believe it.

[a real Sheila]

As I observe my fellow man daily, I wonder if the rature hasn’t already happened.