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John Calvin Made Me Catholic
Catholic Answers ^ | Donald Jacob Uitvlugt

Posted on 06/02/2007 12:50:30 PM PDT by Titanites

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1 posted on 06/02/2007 12:50:35 PM PDT by Titanites
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To: Titanites

Most unusual faith journey. I thought it might be because Calvin lays out in the most lucid way possible the case for Protestantism. In order to answer him, one must have a very good grasp of Catholic theology.


2 posted on 06/02/2007 1:02:20 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Titanites; Dr. Eckleburg; ears_to_hear; xzins; P-Marlowe; HarleyD

John Calvin made me Catholic, John Calvin made me Mormon, John Calvin made me a Campbelite, John Calvin made me atheist, John Calvin made me Wiccan, John Calvin made me an evolutionist.Balderdash! Why it flies in the face of predestination!


3 posted on 06/02/2007 1:08:05 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings ("The Bible is the rock on which our Republic rests." Andrew Jackson, President of U.S.)
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To: Titanites
Of course, my journey with God continues to be written, and I still struggle to know and do God’s will. But I cannot imagine my life without being a Catholic.

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Amen.

4 posted on 06/02/2007 1:10:14 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: 1000 silverlings
LOL. If John Calvin made this guy Catholic, then it's just because someone is leading him from the light of Scripture into a briar patch of error.

"They have not known nor understood: for he hath shut their eyes, that they cannot see; and their hearts, that they cannot understand.

And none considereth in his heart, neither is there knowledge nor understanding to say, I have burned part of it in the fire; yea, also I have baked bread upon the coals thereof; I have roasted flesh, and eaten it: and shall I make the residue thereof an abomination? shall I fall down to the stock of a tree?

He feedeth on ashes: a deceived heart hath turned him aside, that he cannot deliver his soul, nor say, Is there not a lie in my right hand?" -- Isaiah 44:18-20

God willing, the Holy Spirit will return him from where he began.

This "article" was probably written yesterday. Tomorrow we'll see another thread:

"1000SILVERLINGS MADE ME CATHOLIC"

Followed by the sequel:

"DR. ECKLEBURG MADE ME CATHOLIC"

LOLOL.

5 posted on 06/02/2007 1:22:11 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: 1000 silverlings; Frumanchu
From the article...

My brother and I went before the elders of our CRC church to make profession of faith (something like the sacrament of confession, although the CRC doesn't believe that the profession of faith is sacramental)...

Obviously this guy knows next to nothing about his former Protestant faith since a "profession of faith" is nothing "like the sacrament of confession."

This sounds more like a confirmation class which most 12-year-old Protestants understand correctly.

More lies.

6 posted on 06/02/2007 1:27:47 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: 1000 silverlings
It was only looking back on everything a few years later that I noticed how Mary had been with me throughout the whole process...

I knew I'd find a few glorification references to Mary somewhere in here.

Praise Mary. Glory to Mary. HaleluMary.

7 posted on 06/02/2007 1:37:09 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

lol. That’ll be next


8 posted on 06/02/2007 1:46:59 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings ("The Bible is the rock on which our Republic rests." Andrew Jackson, President of U.S.)
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To: P-Marlowe; 1000 silverlings
LOL! You guys are hilarious, but for all the wrong reasons. It shouldn’t surprise me, since you and your predecessors mocked the very words of the Lord.
9 posted on 06/02/2007 1:50:37 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
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To: P-Marlowe; Dr. Eckleburg; xzins; ears_to_hear

The way Mary gets around I think she may be in danger of being labeled a yenta


10 posted on 06/02/2007 1:50:46 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings ("The Bible is the rock on which our Republic rests." Andrew Jackson, President of U.S.)
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To: 1000 silverlings; P-Marlowe; Pyro7480; Dr. Eckleburg; xzins; ears_to_hear
The way Mary gets around I think she may be in danger of being labeled a yenta

Or omniscient and omnipresent....:>)

11 posted on 06/02/2007 1:52:34 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: Titanites
For example, I came to reject Calvin’s teaching on double predestination.

What is double predestination? Seems like an odd phrase.

12 posted on 06/02/2007 1:59:42 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: xzins

It’s any wonder deism came after the “Reformation.” It’s the next logical step, given the theology. If those in Heaven aren’t more like Him, then God must be pretty remote, and if He’s pretty remote, then He’s a Prime Observor, who doesn’t mettle in our lives.


13 posted on 06/02/2007 2:01:55 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
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To: SeaHawkFan

It means that God specifically scheduled some people for heaven and specifically scheduled some people for hell.

Single predestination says that God specifically scheduled some people for heaven. The remainder were on their own.


14 posted on 06/02/2007 2:03:51 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: xzins

lol


15 posted on 06/02/2007 2:05:16 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings ("The Bible is the rock on which our Republic rests." Andrew Jackson, President of U.S.)
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To: xzins
Double predestination makes no sense.

Joshua 24:15 - "But if serving the LORD seems undesirable to you, then choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods your forefathers served beyond the River, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you are living. But as for me and my household, we will serve the LORD."

Is there some new meaning for the word "choose"?

16 posted on 06/02/2007 2:27:17 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: Titanites; Dr. Eckleburg; ears_to_hear; xzins; P-Marlowe; HarleyD

Christ made me an adopted child of the Father and wrapped me in His righteousness


17 posted on 06/02/2007 3:28:52 PM PDT by ears_to_hear
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Well if God ordained the elect to eternal life then He also elected those He did not choose for judgment by His inaction.

So whether it was a direct ordination or a passive one the result is the same.

Because I believe God is the 1st cause of every event I happen to be a double predestinarian . There are no accidents or unintended consequences with God


18 posted on 06/02/2007 3:33:55 PM PDT by ears_to_hear
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To: ears_to_hear
Because I believe God is the 1st cause of every event I happen to be a double predestinarian.

That makes no sense. It your statement is true, then God caused Adam and Eve to sin.

19 posted on 06/02/2007 5:38:39 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: SeaHawkFan

Do you think He was surprised by their sin?

He gave them the ability to sin and then He put the snake in the garden and the trees in the garden .


20 posted on 06/02/2007 5:45:12 PM PDT by ears_to_hear
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