Posted on 06/02/2007 12:50:30 PM PDT by Titanites
Did God cause Adam and Eve to sin?
Here is where I would like to post a graphic similar to those planes in WWII where they had the enemy with a cross through it, on the exterior of the fuselage. Keep ticking them off, Titanites!
LOL.
One more for your list.
Was he surprised?
That is a beautiful icon. Is there a story behind this one?
God’s omniscience before the world was created.
Either:
1. He knew what He was going to do prior to that (or)
2. He knew what everyone else was going to do.
Then He created that which He knew would turn out a particular way.
Can His knowledge of that have been wrong? If so, then He is not omniscient. Could He not have known? If so, He is not omniscient.
I asked him if God’s cause Adam and Eve to sin.
I think ears_to_hear has a real problem on his hands for which there is no explanation; at least not a reasonable one.
I don’t think God was surprised they sinned. Disappointed, but not surprised.
So, do you agree with this double predestination thing?
Do I agree with double predestination?
In the sense that He is absolutely omniscient, then the act of creation meant that everything would work out a certain way.
Does God know whether John Q. Smith will become a Christian? Yes, He does, is my answer. If He doesn’t know, then He is not omniscient.
Do you think God knows if John Q Smith will become a Christian?
In the sense that God created Adam & Eve knowing they would fall, then God’s plan BEFORE it was enacted called for them to sin. However, God Himself did not commit their sin nor encourage them to sin.
God could have created a different reality in which they did not sin. (If Tyre and Sidon had seen the miracles you have seen, then they would have long hence repented in sackcloth and ashes. Jesus could address other realities that could have been...but weren’t... because God chose a different reality to actually create.)
ears_to_hear seems to say that God caused Adam and Eve to sin. I don’t believe that for a minute. I have no doubt God knew they would sin at some point.
I don’t want to put words in e_t_h’s mouth, but I think the point is that God’s plan called for their sin definitely to happen. God, however, never committed nor condoned the sin at any point. The creatures were free not to sin, but did so anyway.
That struck me as an odd comparison upon reading it. I'm not familiar with CRC practices but if his profession was anything like a Catholic confession I thought he was going to confess his sins before the entire congregation. Wow! That would have reaffirmed my opinion on how hard core and rigorous my Calvinist brothers are, but only shows that this guy is either ignorant about both churches or made a big boo boo in recollecting his story. Don't people realize that Freepers read and analyze this kind of stuff? I demand better.
Maybe this is the part that he was comparing to confession.
Maybe it was this kind of occurrence that inspired Marx's "opiate of the masses" axiom. :o)
what, the anxiety?
From the contents of his web page, he could just have easily said "Tinkerbell made me a faerie", or "William Gibson made me a writer."
In addition to *trying* to have a real life, I usually have a good handful of stories that I'm either brainstorming about, writing, editing, or agonizingly waiting as an editor looks them over. If you're interested in the sort of stories I write, or want to know the status of things, this would be the place.
Published Works:
-- "Green Magic" -- This short scene was one of three winners in The Harrow's Animanga contest, and appeared in Vol. 9, no. 10. (You may need to be logged in to read.)
-- "The Blue Flower" -- A young freedom fighter in the future is told that a flower can bring hope to a repressed world. But was he told the truth? This work received Honorable Mention in The Sword Review's 2006 Fiction Contest.
-- Two drabbles (100 word stories) of mine aappear in The Drabbler #8, published by Sam's Dot Publishing. The theme of the issue is "Alien Pet Care".
-- "Outwitted" -- When her fiance's transformation spell ggooes horribly wrong, is a young sorceress's magic enough to save him? Now available at Quantum Kiss.
-- "Command Performance" -- A western SF sttory, this piece appears in Science Fiction Trails, an anthology edited by David B. Riley and published by Pirate Dog Press.
Accepted Works:
-- "Irula's Apprentice" -- Set in a fantasyy world of my own design where the sole sentient species is a race of anthropomorphic lions, "Irula's Apprentice" tells the story of a young shamaness who has to chose between love and duty. Accepted by Renard's Menagerie.
-- "Kogane-dono" -- A modern horror story, where the horror may or may not be merely psychological. It is about rose gardens and Japanese beetles. Really! Accepted for an anthology being edited by Mark Deniz and Sharyn Lilley.
Works under Consideration:
-- "Inflation" -- A *very* short flash piecce (200 words or so) about rising prices and the Underworld.
-- "Butterfly Dreams" -- Virtual Reality annd revenge.
-- "Digitus Dei" -- A boy whose single mothher sends all their money to a televangelist works a rather biblical revenge on her.
-- "ReNew" -- A new medical treatment to coombat aging has unexpected results. Under the title "Rebirth" this story was awarded an Honorable Mention in Alien Skin Magazine's "Science Fiction Good Writing" contest.
-- "Big Bad" -- Has a black Thing really taaken over the body of Jean's grandmother? Or is it all in her head?
-- "Ghost in My Mind" -- A harpist tries too contact the soul of her husband on All Souls' Night.
-- "Brian's Quest" -- A mother starts to woorry that her teenaged son is spending too much time playing Role-Playing games.
Works I'm Editing before sending out again:
-- "Stannard Rock" -- Set in Lake Superior,, what Thing makes its home in the reef under Stannard Rock Lighthouse?
-- "The Necromancers of Parnasus IV" -- A mmobster in the future visits rather unusual aliens with the ability to reconstruct the dead in order to talk to the wife he murdered.
-- "Crapgod" -- A sewer worker falls througghh a broken sewer pipe to find himself paralyzed in a chapel made from human bones.
-- "Galateus Unbound" -- My efforts to re-ttell the myth of Pygmalion, but with the sexes switched.
-- "Whalerider" -- A shipwrecked Portuguesee sailor is saved by a group of people who use whales and dolphins as living vessels.
-- "The Canni-Ball" -- "People... People whhoo eat people... Are the luckiest people in the world..."
-- "Silver Lining" -- Can Megan Petrov survviive a new treatment for her lycanthropy while finding a way to pay a mob boss back fifty thousand dollars? This had been submitted for "The Clinic" storyline of Quill-Pen.net Press's Magazine of Unbelievable Stories. I'm going to try to retool it for submission elsewhere.
Things in various states of completion that I hope to submit someday:
-- Lion of the Veldt -- A working tiittle for my novel-in-progress set in the same universe as "Irula's Apprentice". In a world where males are forbidden to use magic, what place is there for a young lionman who discovers he has unusual abilities? And what relationship does his abilities have to the ancient evil rising once again?
-- "Et in Arcadia Ego" -- A young man encouunters Death playing pachinko in an arcade.
-- "Dole in Astolat" -- My attempt to re-teell the story of Elaine and Lancelot in a SF (space opera) setting.
-- "Doug's Last Halloween" -- When a town cceelebrates Halloween the weekend before instead of on October 31st, it's up to the children of the town to save their community when the baddies come prowling for real.
-- "Jelaan's Choice" -- A young lionman choooses to take on a radical disguise in order to find his twin who has been taken by slavers.
(last update 04-06-2007)
Once again, a Catholic convert’s story is not a screed against Protestantism but a description of his faith journey.
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