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I thought that reviewing the heresies would be a good starting point for debates on this forum. The author however is chronicling the heresies from a Catholic perspective although he tries to be objective, his choice of heresies will rub some the wrong way (particularly my Protestant brethren). I offer this as a beginning: my original idea was to post a thread on each heresy and put it up for critical understanding and debate. This is not posted as a caucus (which might be disallowed anyway) as I would encourage the different traditions to offer their input or even alternate links.
1 posted on 03/04/2007 2:15:31 PM PST by TradicalRC
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To: Kolokotronis; Gamecock; Salvation; narses

Please ping the relevant lists, thanks.


2 posted on 03/04/2007 2:20:38 PM PST by TradicalRC ("...this present Constitution, which will be valid henceforth, now, and forever..."-Pope St. Pius V)
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To: TradicalRC

I guess "heresy" is in the eye of the beholder.


3 posted on 03/04/2007 2:20:49 PM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: TradicalRC

Some of these are schisms, rather than heresies. Should I pop some popcorn? ;-)


4 posted on 03/04/2007 2:20:59 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
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To: TradicalRC

No matter who you are, you're a heretic to somebody.

Heresy support group, anyone? "My name is Larry, and I'm a heretic." "Hi, Larry!!!"


6 posted on 03/04/2007 2:25:19 PM PST by Larry Lucido (Duncan Hunter 2008)
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Freep-mail me to get on or off my pro-life and Catholic Ping List:

Add me / Remove me

Please ping me to all note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of interest.

7 posted on 03/04/2007 2:35:44 PM PST by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: TradicalRC

The three greatest heretics are Arius, Muhammad and Luther! Kind of like the three heads of Ceberus!


16 posted on 03/04/2007 3:32:39 PM PST by Macoraba
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To: TradicalRC
I think we can all agree on these that I had saved up -- LOL!

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35 posted on 03/04/2007 4:40:08 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: TradicalRC

You could have just saved space and said that anyone who is not Catholic is a heretic.


44 posted on 03/04/2007 4:59:32 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: TradicalRC
Charismatic Renewal

May I be the first to say, "Phhooooooopp!"?

Thank you, I thought I would be.

47 posted on 03/04/2007 5:20:58 PM PST by Tax-chick (Every "choice" has a direct object.)
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To: TradicalRC
What a waste of time. The two choices are Roman Catholic or heretic.

What kind of idiot can't tell the difference between a Calvinist and a mormon?

48 posted on 03/04/2007 5:37:00 PM PST by TomSmedley (Calvinist, optimist, home schooling dad, exuberant husband, technical writer)
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To: TradicalRC
Let's see now, would the flagellants identified as being among the 13th century heretics be the precursors to the numeraries of Opus Dei?
But of course, you weren't trying to "stir the pot" you were only seeking information, gosh, gee. Why do you refer to other "traditions" and not just say "Hey all you heretics". It is plainly disingenuous.
57 posted on 03/04/2007 6:45:06 PM PST by Bainbridge
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To: TradicalRC
From the web site you posted:

The word "heretic" means "rebel". A heretic is a rebel against an orthodox establishment he belongs to.

and

To commit heresy, one must refuse to be corrected. A person who is ready to be corrected or who is unaware that what he has been saying is against Church teaching is not a heretic.

This seems to imply (and I agree) that one can believe a heresy sincerely and yet not be a heretic. Intentional rebellion is a necessary part

62 posted on 03/04/2007 7:59:37 PM PST by newberger (Christ is risen from the dead, trampling down death by death!)
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To: TradicalRC

pPing me, too, as you post, please


84 posted on 03/06/2007 1:22:49 PM PST by chesley ("Socialism" - The devil made them do it..)
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To: TradicalRC

The author is way off. "The Charismatic Revewal" is not, per se, a heresy (unless the sedevacantists are right). Prominent charismatics include Fr. Montelessori, the papal homilist of Popes Benedict XVI and John Paul II, and by his own deliberate association and commendation, Pope John Paul II, himself.

This is not to say that there aren't heretical strains of the Charismatic Renewal: "the renewal in the Spirit" has often been called, "baptism in the Spirit," a term properly applied to confirmation, but used in sort of a "born again"/Pentecostalist manner. And although its description of a "new spirit of Pentecost" is a deliberate reference to Vatican II, many charismatics have falsely inferred that it refers to a seperate event which overturns Catholic tradition, rather than a popularization of seeking the very same gifts which the saints have received throughout history (spiritual ecstasy, miraculous healings, prophecy, etc.).

Despite the popularity of these false notions, particularly in the early phases of the Charismatic Renewal, the Renewal's leaders have joyfully accepted any and all correction given them by church leaders, and actively sought to purge these false notions from their midst. At present, the Franciscan University of Steubenville (Ohio) is central to the American renewal, and is a veritable factory of passionately orthodox priests and young church community leaders.


85 posted on 03/06/2007 2:45:33 PM PST by dangus
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