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“The Fourth Secret of Fatima”
Catholic Family News ^ | January, 2007 | John Vennari

Posted on 12/15/2006 8:27:49 PM PST by Dajjal

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To: TomSmedley; Pyro7480; Nihil Obstat

shoe-horn a goddess
lust
mortal human woman
on-going rock of defense
cult
alternate means of salvation........

Yes, it is officially old and yes, it is bearing false witness and libel

Strong, defaming language, too.


41 posted on 12/16/2006 1:12:33 PM PST by Running On Empty
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To: Uncle Chip

Wow. You were in grade school in the 50's.

My oldest is in the 55 year range.

Yes, we said a lot of rosaries in those days. And we still do.

It may take a long time for those rosaries to bear fruit--God has his own time and his own plan. But they were never prayed in vain, nor are they to this day.

As for me and my house, we have prayed years of rosaries--those wonderful 15 meditations on the life ,death and resurrection of Our Lord. It is the daily meditation on these mysteries of Christ Jesus that keep our minds and hearts directed to Him.

It is something you shouldn't feel compelled to deride and hold in contempt.

Since you have left the Church, I'll offer my rosary meditation for you tonight, that you may be inclined to repent of this kind of ridicule, which is unworthy of the Christian walk.


42 posted on 12/16/2006 1:22:26 PM PST by Running On Empty
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To: Running On Empty

Read your Bible instead of the rosary --- if you are going to do it on my behalf, and while you are reading it see if you can find any scripture for the immaculate conception, perpetual virginity, or bodily assumption.


43 posted on 12/16/2006 1:31:21 PM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Uncle Chip
You mean that all those Russian Orthodox going to church every week and doing their religious things were still atheists?

No, of course not. It means they should have turned to God and not to Lenin. Unfortunately, enough of them chosen Lenin over God.

Lenin and the Bolsheviks needed conversion, most definitely. So why not say the rosary for them to turn to God.?

We should always pray for the conversion of atheists and poor sinners. In fact, this prayer was given to Sister Lucia at Fatima:

*O my Jesus, forgive us our sins. Save us from the fires of hell. Lead all souls to heaven, especially those in most need of Your mercy.*

I remember praying the rosary every Friday in Catholic gradeschool in the 1950's for the conversion of Russia.

Thank you for your prayers. God bless you.

Amazing and it could have all ended in 1917, 1933, 1942, but this isn't done until 1984.

It is very sad. Did you know that in the Sacred Heart visions of St. Mary Alacoque in 1689, Jesus told her to tell the King of France to consecrate France to His Sacred Heart and to put the Sacred Heart of Jesus on the king's shields and seals. She was able to inform the king about the request Jesus made. The king said he would think about it. Sr. Mary told Jesus what the king said. Jesus told her that one day his patience would run out. In 1789, exactly one hundred years later -- to the day!, the "Third Estate" revolution began. Soon after, the king of France was jailed and then executed. He wrote in his last testament that he knew about it and should have made the consecration.

Didn't I just read where America has been consecrated to the Immaculate Heart of Mary as well? What is that for? to bring an end to Communism here? or bring an end to something else?

Yes. The consecration was to end abortion in the US. God forgive us and convert those who supprt abortion.

44 posted on 12/16/2006 1:37:42 PM PST by Nihil Obstat (viva il papa)
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To: TomSmedley

Paul is referring to it in his epistle to the Thessalonians as "strong delusion" that they should believe the lie, because they had not the love for the truth, that they might be saved. It is strong delusion that captures their imaginations.


45 posted on 12/16/2006 1:39:32 PM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Nihil Obstat
The consecration was to end abortion in the US. God forgive us and convert those who supprt abortion.

--- and those who support illegal immigration. Amen.

It's been good talking to you.

46 posted on 12/16/2006 1:49:46 PM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Dajjal; Hodar
When 1960 arrives, the Pope does open the envelope, but refuses to tell the secret to the world. Subsequent popes likewise keep the secret hidden -- until June 26, 2000 when the Vatican releases what it says is the full text of the Third Secret.

OK, I guess it it the various Popes who decided that they knew better than Mary. IOW they weren't sold on the whole idea of the authenticity of Fatima??????
47 posted on 12/16/2006 2:10:58 PM PST by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian? Let me be perfectly clear. I know nothing.)
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To: Uncle Chip

I didn't need advice about reading the Bible.

I've probably been reading it before you were born.

I also don't always refer to it as "reading'--more often I think of it as "lectio divina."

Every day I do this, sir. Even before I received your advice.


48 posted on 12/16/2006 2:18:36 PM PST by Running On Empty
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To: Uncle Chip

agreed


49 posted on 12/16/2006 2:53:47 PM PST by Nihil Obstat (viva il papa)
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To: bornacatholic

Sister Lucy never went to Mass until 1970?


50 posted on 12/16/2006 2:56:02 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Nihil Obstat

It was also to end the war.


51 posted on 12/16/2006 3:18:39 PM PST by fatima
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To: OLD REGGIE
Rumor has it the Pope read the secret in 1960 but it was never confirmed.After the shooting of John Paul 11 on May 13,he asked for the info while he was in the hospital.
52 posted on 12/16/2006 3:22:09 PM PST by fatima
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To: dsc

I have been told there will be a new world consecration I think on Oct 13th 07.


53 posted on 12/16/2006 3:28:53 PM PST by fatima
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To: bornacatholic

I'm sorry you think the Church "sucks." It is you right to think so, but I will pray that you come to realize that the Church is your salvation.


54 posted on 12/16/2006 6:01:51 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Dajjal

Thanks for posting this.


55 posted on 12/16/2006 6:06:34 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Dajjal
Here are a number of threads on FR about Our Lady of Fatima for anyone who would like additional information.

Our Lady of Fatima, May 13

Litany of Our Lady of Fatima

Last Fatima child buried in final resting place (Sr. Maria's remains transferred to Fatima)

Sister Lucia, last remaining witness of Fatima apparitions, dies at 97

SISTER LUCIA RIP

LAST OF CHILDREN WHO CLAIMED TO SEE VIRGIN MARY DIES AT 97

Last child who claimed to see "Virgin Mary" dies

Virgin Mary Child Dies (Lucia of Fatima)

Mourning for Fatima seer (Portugal declares day of mourning)

Third Secret of Fatima is not fully revealed.

Sister Lucia, last remaining witness of Fatima apparitions, dies at 97

Sr. Lucia, Fatima, and Islam

Mystery Fatima: Death of Lucia Accents Famed Secrets & Area's Hidden History

"No More Secrets," Visionary Said in 2001 (Sr. Lucia Confirmed Russia Consecrated to Mary)

Papal praise at Sister Lucia's funeral

Our Lady of Fatima, ‘counterrevolutionary’ and ‘ecumenical’

Fatima Statue Due at Vatican to Mark a Fateful Day 25 Years After Attempt on John Paul II's Life

Sister Lucia's Unpublished Writings Released - Visionary Reflects on Marian Apparitions

56 posted on 12/16/2006 6:07:35 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: OLD REGGIE

" IOW they weren't sold on the whole idea of the authenticity of Fatima?"

My guess would be they feared it.


57 posted on 12/16/2006 6:43:46 PM PST by dsc
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To: murphE
Heaven's Key To Peace

Thanks for the link!

Here's another:
http://www.fatimacrusader.com

58 posted on 12/16/2006 10:13:26 PM PST by Dajjal (See my FR homepage for new essay about Ahmadinejad.)
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To: dsc

Satan Sired SSPX


59 posted on 12/17/2006 5:25:37 AM PST by bornacatholic
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To: dsc

It is absolutely true


60 posted on 12/17/2006 5:26:02 AM PST by bornacatholic
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