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A LUTHERAN RESPONSE TO ARMINIANISM: The issues involved concern more than Calvinists
Wolves Among The Sheep ^
| 1992
| Rick Ritchie
Posted on 10/05/2006 1:42:40 PM PDT by Gamecock
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posted on
10/05/2006 1:42:42 PM PDT
by
Gamecock
To: TonyRo76; Dr. Eckleburg; Alex Murphy; Frumanchu; HarleyD; irishtenor; rwfromkansas; wmfights; ...
Hey my brother Tony,
We often forget that Luther wrote more on the subject of election than Calvin. What are your (and any other Lutherans on your ping list) thoughts on this?
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posted on
10/05/2006 1:47:57 PM PDT
by
Gamecock
(The GRPL: Because life is too short for bad Theology*)
To: Gamecock
ohboyohboyohboy...
Pinging for a later, thoroughly enjoyable read. 8~)
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posted on
10/05/2006 1:49:00 PM PDT
by
Dr. Eckleburg
("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
To: Gamecock
You know, I wasn't really in the Calvinist camp until I finished Luther's "Bondage of the Will".
Does that make me a Lutheranist?
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posted on
10/05/2006 1:54:53 PM PDT
by
jboot
(Faith is not a work)
To: jboot
Well, let's trace it back: Luther was an Augustinian, Augustine was Pauline, Paul was a Christian...
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posted on
10/05/2006 1:58:27 PM PDT
by
Gamecock
(The GRPL: Because life is too short for bad Theology*)
To: Gamecock
the Arminian party at the Synod of DortIf they'd met in Dork instead of Dort, their theology would never have had any traction.
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posted on
10/05/2006 2:06:02 PM PDT
by
My2Cents
(A pirate's life for me.)
To: Gamecock
For the Arminian, the ability to fall away from grace is merely the flip side of the individual's ability to decide for Christ. If we can decide to accept him, it stands to reason that we must also have the power to reject him.
Arminius believed folks REJECT/RESIST Christ.
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posted on
10/05/2006 2:56:47 PM PDT
by
xzins
(Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
To: Gamecock
Best simply to read the long section on Election in the Book of Concord
www.bookofconcord.org/fc-sd/election.htm.
Despite having written and STM paper on the subject eighteen years ago there is little more that I can add.
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posted on
10/05/2006 6:30:19 PM PDT
by
lightman
(The Office of the Keys should be exercised as some ministry needs to be exorcised)
To: Gamecock
To: Gamecock
Why should this surprise anyone. Luther was an Augustinian monk and Augustine was Calvin's authoritative source.
To: Uncle Chip; Gamecock
To: Uncle Chip; Gamecock
Actually, Luther completely rebuked Rome and severed all ties with her. To call him an "Augustinian monk" in the preset tense is misleading. Luther called Rome the "synagogue of Satan". Luther's non-catholic critics are never satisfied though.
To: Gamecock
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posted on
10/07/2006 10:27:08 AM PDT
by
aberaussie
(Ignorance has a cost.)
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To: TonyRo76
Your response was an answer to my prayers. Thank you!
To: TonyRo76
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posted on
10/07/2006 11:55:56 AM PDT
by
Redleg Duke
(¡Salga de los Estados Unidos de América, invasor!)
To: TonyRo76
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posted on
10/07/2006 12:11:14 PM PDT
by
SmithL
(Where are we going? . . . . And why are we in this handbasket????)
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To: TonyRo76
For a person caught up in a misunderstanding of things, your words have the ability to beat back a considerable portion of that. That was very well stated!
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posted on
10/07/2006 1:47:26 PM PDT
by
AlbionGirl
(We have just enough religion to make us hate, but not enough to make us love one another. --J. Swift)
To: TonyRo76
Perfect summation of the MANY pages of the Book of Concord in the link I posted!
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posted on
10/07/2006 3:03:33 PM PDT
by
lightman
(The Office of the Keys should be exercised as some ministry needs to be exorcised)
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