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Nuns prove God is not figment of the mind
Telegraph ^ | August 30, 2006 | Roger Highfield

Posted on 08/30/2006 6:37:00 AM PDT by NYer

The idea that there a "God spot" in the brain, a circuit of nerves which could explain mankind's almost universal belief in a deity, is questioned today by a study of Carmelite nuns.

Scientists have been in the pursuit of the brain processes underlying the Unio Mystica - the Christian notion of mystical union with God - and this endeavour is now part of a newly-emerging field called "neurotheology".

 
Carmelite nuns
Carmelite nuns assisted scientists in their quest to discover a circuit of nerves in the brain to explain man’s almost universal belief in a deity

But the God module, as some scientists call it, is a mirage, according to the study by Dr Mario Beauregard, of the Department of Psychology at the Université de Montréal and his student Vincent Paquette, published in the journal Neuroscience Letters. "The main goal of the study was to identify the neural correlates of a mystical experience," said Dr Beauregard. "This does not diminish the meaning and value of such an experience, and neither does it confirm or disconfirm the existence of God."

Fifteen cloistered Carmelite nuns ranging from 23 to 64 years old were subjected to brain scan using a method called functional magnetic resonance imaging while being asked to relive a mystical experience, rather than actually try to achieve one. "I was obliged to do it this way seeing as the nuns are unable to call upon God at will," said Dr Beauregard.

This method was justified because previous studies with actors asked to enter a particular emotional state activated the same brain regions as people actually living those emotions.

 
Nun fact box

Rather than reveal a spiritual centre in the brain, a module of neural circuits specifically designed for religious experience, the study demonstrated that a dozen different regions of the brain are activated during a mystical experience.

In other words, mystical experiences are mediated by several brain regions and systems normally implicated in functions such as self-consciousness, emotion and body representation.

In the past, some researchers went as far as to suggest the possibility of a specific brain region designed for communication with God. This latest research discredits such theories.

Speculation about the God spot was triggered when a team at the University of California, San Diego, saw that people with temporal-lobe epilepsy were prone to religious hallucinations.

This led Michael Persinger, a neuropsychologist at Laurentian University in Canada, to stimulate emporal lobes artificially to see if he could induce a religious state. He found that he could create a "sensed presence".


TOPICS: Activism; Catholic; Current Events; Prayer; Religion & Science
KEYWORDS: carmelite; god; nuns

1 posted on 08/30/2006 6:37:01 AM PDT by NYer
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To: american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; ...


2 posted on 08/30/2006 6:37:16 AM PDT by NYer ("That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. That is the whole Torah." Hillel)
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To: NYer

Oookaaaayy.... Still looking for a "scientific" explanation for God. Best of luck to them!


3 posted on 08/30/2006 6:58:45 AM PDT by Antoninus (I don't vote for liberals, regardless of party.)
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To: NYer

I'd be more interested in a scientific experiment to see how habits can make a nun fly.


4 posted on 08/30/2006 8:34:20 AM PDT by HarleyD ("Then He opened their minds to understand the Scriptures" Luk 24:45)
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To: NYer

Good Lord.

How stupid. Unless one is in an actual state, the scan can't show much. It seems it would only show the effect on the brain of MEMORY of the event.

Anyway, the brain is not the soul.


5 posted on 08/30/2006 10:56:19 AM PDT by amihow
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To: Antoninus

No, they are trying to DISprove a nihilist assertion.


6 posted on 08/30/2006 6:08:21 PM PDT by dangus
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To: NYer

>> The Nun study into ageing and Alzheimer's disease has followed 678 nuns who agreed to brain donation at the time of death. <<

Big deal. About 250 Democratic congressmen volunteered to do that BEFORE they died.


7 posted on 08/30/2006 6:10:14 PM PDT by dangus
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To: NYer

Sounds like nun-sense to me


8 posted on 08/30/2006 6:41:32 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Here to help)
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To: Berosus; ValerieUSA

the oldie:

The "GOD" Part of the Brain
Philosophy Opinion (Published) Keywords: ATHEISM
Author: Matthew Alper
Posted on 10/09/2000 00:57:41 PDT by Solomon Kane
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a39e17a75676c.htm


9 posted on 09/03/2006 6:25:27 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Saturday, September 2, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Back in 2003, the Dalai Lama went to an engineers' convention in Chicago to hear about efforts to measure the brain waves of meditating Buddhist monks with an EEG, in the hopes of someday finding an artificial way to achieve "enlightenment." I understand he was pleased with that experiment; apparently it showed more promise than the one described in message #1.


10 posted on 09/04/2006 5:38:48 AM PDT by Berosus ("There is no beauty like Jerusalem, no wealth like Rome, no depravity like Arabia."--the Talmud)
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