Posted on 06/15/2006 5:10:50 PM PDT by monkapotamus
COLUMBUS, OH: Episcopal Convention Condemns Bible as 'Anti-Jewish'
By Hans Zeiger
VirtueOnline Correspondent
www.virtueonline.org
COLUMBUS, OHIO (6/15/06)-The 75th General Convention of the Episcopal Church today passed a resolution essentially condemning the Bible as an "anti-Jewish" document. Not only does the resolution aim to address perceptions of anti-Jewish prejudice in the Bible and Episcopal liturgy, but it suggests that such prejudice is actually "expressed in...Christian Scriptures and liturgical texts."
Originated in the Committee on Prayer Book, Liturgy and Music, Resolution C001 directs the Standing Commission on Liturgy and Music to "collect and develop materials to assist members of the Church to address anti-Jewish prejudice expressed in and stirred by portions of Christian scriptures and liturgical texts, with suggestions for preaching, congregational education, and lectionary use, and to report to the 76th General Convention."
Both houses of the Episcopal Church Convention passed the resolution, including a 68 percent approval in the House of Deputies on Thursday.
The Rev. Ruth A Meyers of the Diocese of Chicago, Secretary of the Committee on Prayer Book, Liturgy and Music, explained to the House of Deputies why her committee had expanded the wording in the language to include not only prejudice in "liturgical texts," but also in "Christian scriptures."
"We did have a question about whether Scripture itself uses anti-Jewish prejudice," Meyers said. Referring specifically to the Gospel account of the crucifixion, she added, "That scriptural text...has in fact stirred anti-Jewish prejudice and resulted in significant violence toward Jewish people."
Canon Kendall Harmon, Diocese of South Carolina, Deputy on the Education Committee, proposed an amendment on the floor of the House of Deputies to restore the original language of Resolution C001 without condemning "Christian scriptures."
A deputy from Massachusetts argued in favor of Harmon's amendment, "I believe it is so important to deal with the question of the liturgical text and those that may promote or maintain anti-Jewish prejudice, and I am not prepared to deal with the larger question of Scripture."
The Rev. Adam Trambley, rector of Trinity Memorial Episcopal Church and a deputy from Northwestern Pennsylvania, declared, "There is an issue with perceived anti-Semitism in the New Testament...The amendment seems to be more interested in separating the liturgical texts we use from the Scriptural texts."
The amendment failed by a vote of 424-387.
Virtue Online interviewed the Very Rev. Dr. Peter Cook of the Diocese of Western Louisiana, a member of the Committee on Prayer Book, Liturgy and Music, following the final vote of the House of Deputies to concur with the House of Bishops. Cook attempted to dissuade his committee from amending Resolution C001, but his vote was far outweighed.
Resolution C001 "in effect smuggled in a critique of the Scriptural text instead of the liturgical text," said Cook.
Underlying it all was a terribly flawed understanding of God's Word, Cook suggested.
"I think it reaffirms the belief amongst many that our culture is entitled to critique the Scriptures." Cook said that the liberal view of Scripture had triumphed in the passage of the resolution, based on the belief that the Bible is "a document produced in a certain time with limitations, and because of that it may not be relevant for all cultures at all times."
The orthodox view, according to Cook, is that "the Scriptures were written at a particular place in a particular culture, and that they are relevant to all cultures."
But "if Scriptures were only communicated by men, which means that they were man's best efforts to interpret what God is saying," they will inevitably miss the mark, Cook concluded.
I cannot help but think that the candlestick will soon be removed.
The pro-Palestinian leftists running the Episcopal church, who were recently pushing hard for divestment from Israel, are now prepared to chuck the Bible into the garbage. Because it's "anti-Jewish", and they care so much about Jews.
Riiiiight...
I wonder what world, and what century, these yokels live in. We heard this drivel when "Passion" was screening, and of course it turned out basically that this accusation is a slander against present day Christianity. Not that that surprises me, considering the source.
Get a load of this latest episcopagan "resolution" - ping!
They elect a presiding bishopress, declare the Bible is "anti-Jewish", and will soon be passing a resolution that the world is flat and the moon is made of green cheese (brie only, if you please).
These heathens are as wacked out in the head as the average Jihadstinian.
Whatever the problems are in the Catholic Church, we are blessed to have a solid Christian as Pope. Everytime I heard about the latest goings-on in the ECUSA, I am thankful that I crossed the Tiber.
Many Jewish intellectuals confuse being against contemporary (or since Christ) Jewish religion (which of course disagrees on some very essential things with Christianity) with anti-Semitism.
I've read some scathing attacks by Ellie Wiessel on the book of John (a man unashamed to be Jewish) for example--the New Testament writers clearly thought Jesus was the Jewish Messiah, and the failure to believe in Him by mainstream Judaism was apostasy....hence AD Judaism and Christianity cannot both be correct.
Of course the majority of ECUSA are speaking of the New Testament, guys...and showing their own apostasy in agreeing with the people of another religion's critique of Christianity's holy scripture.
Might I suggest you visit the following site, and read the author's conversion story. Like you, he is a former Jew who spent several years wandering the 'christian diaspora' before coming home. Enjoy!
When I say, hear, or read "the Bible" I translate it as "the TaNa"Kh, (the Hebrew Bible)," and this was the focus of my sarcasm.
What do they think of the Q'uran?
You left just before the heathen Spong?! Count your blessings! I left the ECUSA after the August '03 fiasco. The rector of my former parish was/is a good man, and understood why I left. I don't know what he'd think of this, but if I was still in the ECUSA, he'd certainly know what I think about it. My former rector didn't try to talk me out of leaving, as I'd been dropping hints to him for at least 2-3 years that if I did end up leaving, it would be because the "bishops" did something or voted on something that would push me out the door, and that was exactly how it happened.
I wonder what their position is on the anti-Israeli, pro-Arab terrorist bigotry of their own leadership? IS that anti-Jewish?
Forgot to type your name. ;')
Actually, "The Passion" IS anti-Semitic--but against Arabs, not Jews. Everyone in the movie is Roman or Jewish. Not a single Palestinian character among them. And no sign of the Al-Aqsa Mosque, which some Palestinians claim has existed since the time of Adam. It's a damaging movie for the Palestinian cause, when you hear them claiming that they've been in Jerusalem longer than the Jews.
Could be, but they won't *be* there longer than the Jews. :')
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I actually agree with this. NT is anti-Jewish.
Yes.
O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets and stonest them that are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! Behold your house is left unto you desolate. (Matthew 23.37,38) Then answered all the people (Jews) and said, His blood be on us and on our children (Matthew 27:25). 1 But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you to councils, and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten (Mark 13.9)
Ye are of your father the devil and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar and the father of it. And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. Which of you convinceth me of sin? And I say the truth, why do you not believe me? He that is of God heareth Gods words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God (John 8.43-47)
Stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so you do. Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which showed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers (Acts 7.51-53)
It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: but seeing you put it from you and judge yourself unworthy of everlasting life, we turn to the Gentiles (Acts 13.45-51)
For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision: whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucres sake ... wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith; not giving heed to Jewish fables and commandments of men, that turn from the truth. (Titus 1.10-14).
The Jews, who both killed the Lord Jesus and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God and are contrary to all men: forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins always: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost. (l Thessalonians 2.14-16)
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is an antichrist, that denieth the father and the son. Whoever denieth the son, the same hath not the father (l John 2.22,23)
I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan ... (Revelation 2.9,10)
Behold I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews and are not but do lie; behold I will make them to come and worship before thy feet... (Revelation 3.9)
Ahh, but how many times did God have to reprimand the Jewish people in the OT? And when Moses asked God to talk to his people, what did God answer? You must also call God in the OT an anti-Semite as well, as he was rarely pleased with his people because they were either being mislead or refused to follow his word.
The ones that Jesus called the devil were absolutely not all the Jews, but a small sect who were misleading the many good Jews. They were making up laws for themselves, not for God! Even the True Torah Jews will tell you that the Talmud is heresy.
I suggest you read Isaias, as you missed the boat. Take time to read it and you might find yourself Invincibly Smarter.
http://www.newadvent.org/bible/isa000.htm
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