Like the RCs never show up on Proddie threads and act "self-righteous, condescending, prideful, arrogant, self-congratulatory."
Posted on 02/04/2006 1:47:00 PM PST by bornacatholic
2Ti 2:15 Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth
Here's another interesting one:
Heb 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
How disingenuous. "I attack you but I don't actually mean it as an attack, even though that's all it is." Your disavowal is ludicrous. You act as a divider. Please go back to your God--not your Pope or Bishop or Priest--and ask Him if this is truly what He wants of you.
Iscool,
The Catholic Church never banned anyone from reading the Bible; nor is the posted sermon an attack on he Bible. It is an attack on sola scriptura. Sola scriptura is a belief, a doctrine, and perhaps a methodology. It is NOT the Bible. The Bible is the Bible, and sola scriptura is a doctrine that Protestants have slapped onto the Bible.
Iscool,
The Catholic Church never had laws against people reading the Bible; nor is the posted sermon an attack on he Bible. It is an attack on sola scriptura. Sola scriptura is a belief, a doctrine, and perhaps a methodology. It is NOT the Bible. The Bible is the Bible, and sola scriptura is a doctrine that Protestants have slapped onto the Bible.
Jesus, fully God, fully man, teaches me His truth through the Christian Church and Sacramental System He established, all built, as the New Testament witnesses, upon Peter and all Bishop in union with Him
Like the RCs never show up on Proddie threads and act "self-righteous, condescending, prideful, arrogant, self-congratulatory."
Jesus answered: Amen, amen I say to thee, unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
Why is the pot always stirring things up by picking on the kettle?
Act 13:49 And the word of the Lord was published throughout all the region.
Appears as tho the believers were writing out copies as fast as their fingers would move, contrary to what some may say...
ctd> I don't buy into the RCC is the one true church nonsense at all;
but publish does not always mean writing. Generally speaking,
that is the interpretation today, but it wasn't necessarily so centuries ago.
29 posted on 02/05/2006 1:54:38 AM MST by connectthedots Could it be that Luke was speaking about the Holy Word of G-d: b'shem Y'shua
the Tanach and the Torah?
Thank you
I would not want to be accused of being dis-courteous to you or anyone else.
There are many who cling to the tradition of man and reject Y'shua and His Word.
Baruch HaShem Y'shua haMashiach
I would agree with your comments.
I am, by no means, a Greek scholarm but I am pretty confident that "the word of the Lord" means the Gospel message; especially aince there are other instances in the Bible where Christ is referred to as 'the Word'.
54 posted on 02/05/2006 9:31:12 AM MST by connectthedots
When one does a study of what Y'shua preached;
one will discover,
He did not preach anything else other than the Tanach.
He condemned the traditions of man and always pointed to the Holy Word of G-d
b'shem Y'shua
Where in the Bible is baptism referred to as a "work"? I thought it was God Who did the work. (Col 2:12,13) Baptism is no more than simple obedience.
There is really no basis for agreement between those who accept the Bible for their authority and the Catholic who accept the Pope, Traditions of the Church, and the Bible in that order as their authority.
The correct quote is somewhat different. John 3:5, [Jesus answered, "I tell you the truth, unless a man is born of water and the spirit , he cannot enter the Kingdom of God.]
In verse 3 he told Nicodemus that he must be born again, but verse 5 says nothing about...again. All men are born of water....at birth, when the mother's water breaks. This is not referencing baptism. Not all men will be born again by the spirit....but when it happens, the ones born again will be invisible. (verse 8) Until that point (the resurrection) the proper term is "begotten" of the spirit....just like Jesus in verse 16....[For God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten Son .....] Even Jesus was not "Born Again" until his resurrection.
Jesus also said that the thief would be with Him in Paradise that day, without the benefit of water baptism. Baptism doesn't save you- rather, it's a prophetic, public declaration of what has already happened in the Spirit. We are baptized by the Spirit into Christ at the moment of salvation, this is the 'One Baptism' of salvation (one faith, one Lord, one baptism). Likewise, Jesus baptizes us with the Holy Spirit and fire, as John the Baptizer prophecied. This is believed by many to be a separate event apart from salvation, even as water baptism is.
Hebrews 6:2 speaks of baptisms, plural. Paul (probably the author) referenced it as a foundational doctrine upon which the faith is built.
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