Update: No leads in slaying of Bountiful LDS missionary
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Posted on 01/02/2006 7:39:23 PM PST by gregwest
CHESAPEAKE - A 21-year-old Mormon missionary died Monday night after he and his partner were shot while going door-to-door in the Deep Creek area.
The other missionary, age 19, was in serious condition at Sentara Norfolk General Hospital Monday night, Chesapeake police said.
Police did not release the victims’ identities.
According to police the two missionaries were walking in the 2600 block of Elkhart Street off George Washington Highway about 6 p.m. when they were approached by another man. The man shot them both and fled on foot.
One of the victims ran to The Charity House, a nearby nursing home, to seek help.
Police described the suspect as a black male, about 5’10’’ wearing a black hooded sweatshirt and jeans. He was last seen heading toward Janice Lynn Court, which backs up to Elkhart.
The two missionaries had bicycles, but were not riding them at the time.
A group from the Mormon church, known as the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, waited in the consultation room at the Norfolk General emergency room Monday night. They declined to comment.
According to the church’s official web site there are more than 60,000 Mormon missionaries, mostly young men and women who volunteer to spread the church’s message for one and a half to two years all over the world, at their own expense.
There are apartment buildings at the end of Elkhart Street, and some residents could not leave or return to their homes for a time Monday night.
Police, working in a moderate rain, had the street blocked off a short way off George Washington Highway.
“This is close to home,’’ said resident Bobby Gatling. He has lived on the block for two years. “Nothing like this has ever happened here before.’’
Anyone with information about this incident is asked to call the Crime Line at 1-888-LOCK-U-UP.
Reach Jim Washington at (757) 446-2536 or jim.washington@pilot online.com.
Judging from your comments on this thread, apparently not.
All true Christians have a change of heart.
... and that it doesn't make as much sense ... for someone who had never seen or heard of a Bible ... to write this ?
The prophets of old were given visions of our time, so they knew of the Bible in our days. The point is the logic in those passages makes sense. God loves all his children, and reveals truths to them from time to time, not just the Jews.
And this doesn't strike at all as suspicious ?
Adam-ondi-Ahman, This is for all who read, God is our father in heaven and loves all his children, on the earth. It does not matter what color we are or if we are of differnt nationalities, he loves us all. We hope and pray that at the end of our life we have done as much as we could to follow his teachings as best we understand, and then his grace will take care of the rest. May he forgive us our sins and help us to become better. May he bless all this night, and help us to come together instead of leaveing us to our own understanding. Free Rebublic is where we should all come to be of one mind to do battle agaist those who would destroy our free agency and make us live in a nation with out God. It matters not what church we attend, what matters most is will we stand up for what is right. May God Bless all F.R. and keep us safe.
"He was a very outgoing young man and he was as excited as could be to be going on his mission," said Winslow Young, of Centerville, Utah.
The family was in regular contact with Young, who never expressed any concerns about his safety, his grandfather said. He described his grandson as easygoing and happy in his work for the church, and as a leader for the younger children in his extended family.
"Whenever we had the family together, the other grandchildren would be climbing all over him," he said.
Young was the oldest of four children.
I have a hunch the Savior and Elder Young will get along well together.
"In Carthage, they used bullets to kill a prophet."
"They" means other mormons.
In the deepest, abject humility, Paul hesitated even to judge himself.
Of course if there is a written test, and it is on doctrinal arcanae, some will do well indeed.
Others, not daring to raise their eyes, will smite their breasts and cry, "Lord, have mercy on me, a sinner!"
Son, if you knew as much about mormon history ( or history in general ) as you think you do. You would know the dates that Joseph was killed and the date you speak of in regards to Brigham Young were several years apart. Joseph Smith Was killed in june of 1844. How could what Brigham Young did in 1854 mean anything. Also Utah was not even a state in the U.S. and the U.S. was not even sure they wanted it. Joesph was killed in the town of Nauvoo Ill, which at the time was the largest town in the area, aprox 20,000 people. I could go on, get your facts, and then lets talk. Let us agree to disagree as you and I will never see eye to eye on this, We should both join forces to fight our comen enemy, if you do not know who that is, then maybe your in the wrong place. God Bless
Second, even if he was talking about the Bible (which he obviously was not), it has undergone countless changes throughout the years, adding and subtracting to and from what is considered canon. The Bible you use today has undergone numerous additions and subtractions, so I guess by using it you're in the same camp as those who use the Book of Mormon.
Not quite.
The Bible has not gone through countless revisions.
Second ... the books of the Bible were agreed upon by the unified church.
This has not been the case for the Book of Mormon.
Your next point quotes Galations, regarding the preching of other gospels. Mormons do not preach other gospels, they (claim to) preach the true gospel of Christ. Unfortunately, many aspects of the gospel had been or were unclear - this really can't be refuted, how else can one explain all the various sects ?
The Bible itself refutes the claim that it promotes uncertainty.
The Bible states that it is perfectly adequate for every christian belief and endeavor.2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:Mormonism, on the other hand, at least claims to have input from God in clearing up these uncertainties.
17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
Of course the scriptures of the Bible claim inspiration by God (see 2 Timothy 3:16 above).
Also note the following scripture ...2 Peter 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.The claim of the champions of the Bible scriptures have been accepted by the church.
Joseph Smith's claim has yet to be accepted.
1859 not 1854, remember to check yourself, you make mistakes also.
I would wholeheartedly agree with you if this were a religious debate thread. It isn't. It is a sad announcement of the death of a noble young man and injury to another who were seeking to building the Kingdom of God on the earth. There is a time and a place for everything (read Ecclesiastes lately?) and the reactions of most here are because you are seeking to turn it into not just a theological debate but a forum to bash a sect. That shows almost as much class as the Westboro Baptist Church in Kansas showing up at servicemen's funerals to debate acceptance of homosexuals in America. They, too, believe they have a valuable message to impart and they, too, don't much care who is harmed in the process. To those who want to debate beliefs, start another thread.
I may go to Elder Young's viewing or memorial service and linger quietly . I didn't know him or his family, but I lived In Centerville for many years and I know hundreds of people in the Bountiful area. I probably know his stake president or bishop.
The older I get, the more I treasure these memorial services. Yes, they are sad, heartbreaking, but they are also exquisitely hopeful. Nothing so quiets the soul or more steadies the spirit.
Hey, yeah, and I was so unsurprised when the MSM hid the fact that when the Dead Sea Scrolls were deciphered, there was not one deviation from the Psalms or the Book of Isaiah found. Our Bible is sure and without revisions.
It is serious stuff. The battle is our minds. Again, the words of Paul in Galatians ring out every time I think of Joseph Smith:"Be even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed.Notice, my Mormon friend, that Paul says "received" in the past tense ...
As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other Gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed."
This same thing strikes me, as well.
Those who knew the boy who died, how come you are wasting time on the internet? As for starting another thread, again, I think it is totally appropriate to discuss the belief system of a Mormon who died while proselytizing.
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