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Do space aliens have souls? Inquiring minds can check Jesuit's book
Catholic News Service ^ | Friday, November 4, 2005 | Carol Glatz

Posted on 11/05/2005 4:49:35 AM PST by Momaw Nadon

VATICAN CITY (CNS) -- Galaxy-gazing scientists surely wonder about what kind of impact finding life or intelligent beings on another planet would have on the world.

But what sort of effect would it have on Catholic beliefs? Would Christian theology be rocked to the core if science someday found a distant orb teeming with little green men, women or other intelligent forms of alien life? Would the church send missionaries to spread the Gospel to aliens? Could aliens even be baptized? Or would they have had their own version of Jesus and have already experienced his universal or galactic plan of salvation?

Curious Catholics need not be space buffs to want answers to these questions and others when they pick up a 48-page booklet by a Vatican astronomer.

Through the British-based Catholic Truth Society, U.S. Jesuit Brother Guy Consolmagno has penned his response to what he says are questions he gets from the public "all the time" when he gives talks on his work with the Vatican Observatory.

Titled "Intelligent Life in the Universe? Catholic Belief and the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligent Life," the pocket-sized booklet is the latest addition to the society's "Explanations Series," which explores Catholic teaching on current social and ethical issues.

Brother Consolmagno told Catholic News Service that the whole question of how Catholicism would hold up if some form of life were discovered on another planet has piqued people's curiosity "for centuries."

He said his aim with the booklet was to reassure Catholics "that you shouldn't be afraid of these questions" and that "no matter what we learn, it doesn't invalidate what we already know" and believe. In other words, scientific study and discovery and religion enrich one another, not cancel out each other.

If new forms of life were to be discovered or highly advanced beings from outer space were to touch down on planet Earth, it would not mean "everything we believe in is wrong," rather, "we're going to find out that everything is truer in ways we couldn't even yet have imagined," he said.

The Book of Genesis describes two stories of creation, and science, too, has more than one version of how the cosmos may have come into being.

"However you picture the universe being created, says Genesis, the essential point is that ultimately it was a deliberate, loving act of a God who exists outside of space and time," Brother Consolmagno said in his booklet.

"The Bible is divine science, a work about God. It does not intend to be physical science" and explain the making of planets and solar systems, the Jesuit astronomer wrote.

Pope John Paul II once told scientists, "Truth does not contradict truth," meaning scientific truths will never eradicate religious truths and vice versa.

"What Genesis says about creation is true. God did it; God willed it; and God loves it. When science fills in the details of how God did it, science helps get a flavor of how rich and beautiful and inventive God really is, more than even the writer of Genesis could ever have imagined," Brother Consolmagno wrote.

The limitless universe "might even include other planets with other beings created by that same loving God," he added. "The idea of there being other races and other intelligences is not contrary to traditional Christian thought.

"There is nothing in Holy Scripture that could confirm or contradict the possibility of intelligent life elsewhere in the universe," he wrote.

Brother Consolmagno said that, like scientists, people of faith should not be afraid of saying "I just don't know."

Human understanding "is always incomplete. It is crazy to underestimate God's ability to create in depths of ways that we will never completely understand. It is equally dangerous to think that we understand God completely," he said in his booklet.

He told CNS that his booklet tries to show "the fun of thinking" about what it would mean if God had created more than life on Earth. Such speculation "is very worthwhile if it makes us reflect on things we do know and have taken for granted," he said.

He said asking such questions as "Would aliens have souls?" or "Does the salvation of Christ apply to them?" helps one "appreciate what it means for us to have a soul" and helps one better "recognize what the salvation of Christ means to us."

Brother Consolmagno said he tried to show in the booklet that "the church is not afraid of science" and that Catholics, too, should be unafraid and confident in confronting all types of speculation, no matter how "far out" and spacey it may be.

For science fiction fans, Trekkies, or telescope-toting space enthusiasts, the booklet's last chapter reveals where there are references to extraterrestrials in the Bible.

Brother Consolmagno said the Bible is also replete with references to or descriptions of "nonhuman intelligent beings" who worship God. For example, he said the Scriptures talk about angels, "sons of God" who took human wives, and "heavenly beings" that "shouted for joy" when God created the earth.

The booklet, however, offers no "hard and fast answers" to extraterrestrial life, since such speculation is "better served by science fiction or poetry than by definitions of science and theology," he wrote.

He said the booklet is meant "to put a smile on your face" and, perhaps, make people think twice about who could be peeking at Earth from alien telescopes far, far away.


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1 posted on 11/05/2005 4:49:36 AM PST by Momaw Nadon
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To: Momaw Nadon

Do space aliens have souls? I'm still working on do democrats have souls.


2 posted on 11/05/2005 4:52:23 AM PST by hflynn ( Soros wouldn't make any sense even if he spelled his name backwards)
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To: Momaw Nadon

I'm assuming that space aliens would be part of Gods creation so I would have to say yes they do.


3 posted on 11/05/2005 4:57:29 AM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: cripplecreek

Worms are part of gods creation too, do they have souls?


4 posted on 11/05/2005 5:01:40 AM PST by Khepera (Do not remove by penalty of law!)
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To: Khepera

daschle better hope so


5 posted on 11/05/2005 5:12:38 AM PST by willyd (No nation has ever taxed its citizens into prosperity)
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To: KevinDavis; Las Vegas Dave
Ping!


6 posted on 11/05/2005 5:19:19 AM PST by Momaw Nadon ("...with the ultimate goal of ending tyranny in our world.")
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To: Momaw Nadon
Through the British-based Catholic Truth Society, U.S. Jesuit Brother Guy Consolmagno has penned his response to what he says are questions he gets from the public "all the time" when he gives talks on his work with the Vatican Observatory.

Where do they find the time to worry over space aliens...?

7 posted on 11/05/2005 5:38:11 AM PST by SouthernFreebird
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To: hflynn

We know Japanese people have no souls. That's why they can't use the golden PSP to lead the armies of Heaven in the battle of Armageddon.


8 posted on 11/05/2005 5:50:26 AM PST by thoughtomator (Alito Akbar)
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To: Momaw Nadon; american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; ...
Brother Consolmagno would make for an interesting guest and rationale discussion on George Noory's Coast to Coast program.
9 posted on 11/05/2005 6:15:49 AM PST by NYer (“Socialism is the religion people get when they lose their religion")
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To: Khepera
Worms (and other animals) have animative souls. Plants have vegetative souls. These are natural souls. Human beings have rational souls, which are spirits. That is, we have supernatural souls.

I think that in order to find ot whether a given space alien had a rational (spiritual) soul, we would have to find out whether, at any point in his/her/its life cycle, this creature possessed the POTENTIAL for thinking and choosing, which would make the creature inwardly free and morally responsible for its actions.

10 posted on 11/05/2005 7:05:02 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (As always, striving for accuracy.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Very interesting


11 posted on 11/05/2005 7:07:58 AM PST by Khepera (Do not remove by penalty of law!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Does a peanut butter sandwich have a "Nutatitive Soul"
LOL!
12 posted on 11/05/2005 7:40:21 AM PST by pro610 (Faith the size of a mustard seed can move mountains. Praise Jesus Christ!)
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To: pro610

I have clearly had too much coffee this morning, since this thread is giving me the giggles and I can't stop, LOL.


13 posted on 11/05/2005 7:55:08 AM PST by LibertyGirl77
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To: pro610
You asked, "Does a peanut butter sandwich have a "Nutatitive Soul?"

No, it is a soulless carbohydrate and is going to dieters' hell.

Unless the peanut butter in question is natural and contains no trans-fats, and the bread is whole-grain, in which case it obviously comes under the category of "indulgence"...

;oP ... says a carb-conscious Mrs. Don-o

14 posted on 11/05/2005 8:36:40 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (As always, striving for accuracy.)
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To: Momaw Nadon; Las Vegas Dave

ping list


15 posted on 11/05/2005 9:13:38 AM PST by Angelas
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To: Mrs. Don-o; LibertyGirl77
***"No,it is a soulless carbohydrate and is going to dieter,s hell"***

Is there whaling and gnashing of teeth and lots of "peanut butter sandwiches in dieters hell? LOL!
16 posted on 11/05/2005 9:32:51 AM PST by pro610 (Faith the size of a mustard seed can move mountains. Praise Jesus Christ!)
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To: pro610
"Is there whaling and gnashing of teeth and lots of "peanut butter sandwiches in dieters hell?

No. Whaling has been banned by the International Law of the Sea. For all intents and porpoises.

17 posted on 11/05/2005 9:37:51 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (As always, striving for accuracy.)
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To: NYer; Salvation
The intellectual product of "intelligent design" will lead to an "extraterrestrial" Antichrist.

What does Hillary have to lean on now that her base is "blown to the moon"? No homosexuals, no abortionists, no liberalized substance abuse, no freeloaders on a welfare system.

Do you know how many Americans are willing to believe in extraterrestial intelligence than in God? How many apparitions are not Vatican approved?

If you pray for a demon hard enough, it will come. I would hazard to guess that Hillary has about a 50% chance of prayer to either the Crucified Jesus for guidance and strength, or to "anything but Jesus" to give her the power she lusts after.
18 posted on 11/05/2005 9:40:34 AM PST by SaltyJoe (A mother's sorrowful heart and personal sacrifice redeems her lost child's soul.)
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To: pro610
Although we're joking about it, I reckon I must admit that my remarks about the soul derive from Aristotle. For more on the differences between plant, animal, and human (spiritual) souls from an Aristotelian point of view, see:

http://faculty.washington.edu/smcohen/320/psyche.htm

Scroll about 2/3 of the way down to "Degrees of Soul."

Aristotle says the soul is the "form" of the living body. By "form" he does not mean "shape," but "that which makes it what it is as a living thing." It approximately means the "shaper" of the body.

Aristotle was a natural philosopher, not a theologian. From a natural point of view, I suppose you could say the closest thing we've seen to a "soul" is the DNA molecule, since it is the "shaper" of the living body. This is not, of course, a distinctively religious view.

19 posted on 11/05/2005 10:23:50 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (As always, striving for accuracy.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
The biggest problem with Aristotle was that his philosophy was based on self divination which he undoubtedly learned from his mentor Plato.
His teaching of Universal mind and soul in all living things contradicts Christian biblical teaching about the soul,with its faculties of the mind and will.

Christians must reject Aristotle's philosophy since he is considered to be a Pagan teacher.
20 posted on 11/05/2005 11:37:14 AM PST by pro610 (Faith the size of a mustard seed can move mountains. Praise Jesus Christ!)
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