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Bishop Spong Tells Religious "Progressives" to Stick It to Conservatives
The Institute on Religion and Democracy ^ | 7/22/2005 | Mark Tooley

Posted on 07/26/2005 12:30:31 PM PDT by sionnsar

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To: sionnsar
Condemning popular religion that "masquerades as Christianity," Spong sneered that he did not want to walk into "what's called a Christian book store," listen to a "Christian" radio station or be "identified with the Christian vote," when these labels apply to people "bashing homosexuals" and "keeping women from choosing."

I myself don't care for most of what passes for Christian bookstores around here, and for Christian Top 40.

Spong mockingly recalled. "If God has chosen people, then he also has unchosen people," Spong warned.

Well, yeah. Unsaved, lost, reprobate, whatever. Yes, they exist. Deal with it.

21 posted on 07/26/2005 2:48:15 PM PDT by Lee N. Field
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To: sionnsar; All
Spong constantly amazes me:

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Spong, who is the retired Episcopal Bishop of Newark, has long been a biting polemicist on behalf of liberal religion, writing books suggesting that the Virgin Mary was a prostitute and St. Paul a "self-hating gay man," while denying that Christ was divine and rejecting a personal God. "It's time to name evil as evil when sounded in pious accents of biblical religion," Spong declared blazingly. "In the 21st century ... my nation seems to be walking religiously back into religious attitudes that I spent a lifetime trying to escape."

(snip)

But the Bible has been a "major force in dark chapters of American history," Spong ominously warned.

(snip)


Again, with a leadership like this, why is anybody, anybody, anybody here still a part of the ECUSA???

There are so many "traditional Anglicans" who appear, to me, to just be staring at their belly buttons while their episcopate spouts garbage like this or raids churches like so many jackbooted thugs. Why is this garbage tolerated?

Don't get me wrong, this has nothing to do with Anglican belief, I just don't understand why those who actually believe and practice those beliefs sit there and tolerate the rot from the head down.

22 posted on 07/26/2005 3:01:45 PM PDT by markomalley (Vivat Iesus!)
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To: markomalley

He only reads the parts of the Bible that fit his "religion"! The Bible also said to take the log out of your own eye before you try and pluck the speck out of someone elses! The big question is "is Jesus Christ Lord and Savior of your heart?" That's the only question that will matter for any of us and will be the final Jeopardy Question as we stand before God...


23 posted on 07/26/2005 3:07:39 PM PDT by princess leah (\)
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To: sionnsar

Talk about hate speech!!


24 posted on 07/26/2005 3:09:47 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: sionnsar
Nope. Sorry. Don't have a blog. But I do have a web site.
25 posted on 07/26/2005 3:18:20 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ("Qanno' qinne'ti leHaShem 'Eloqei Tzevaqot . . . va'ivvater 'ani levaddi . . . ")
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To: All
Okay everyone . . . sing along!

(To the tune of A Silly Song from Disney's Snow White)

A-one! A-two! A-three!

John Spong, the Bible's wrong!
We sing it night and day!
Now we know the happiness
That comes with being Gay!

John Spong, the Bible's wrong!
So flush it down the can!
Come help us free the natives
From the grip of Western Man!
Yodeling.

Um . . . anyone care to add any verses?

26 posted on 07/26/2005 3:26:06 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ("Qanno' qinne'ti leHaShem 'Eloqei Tzevaqot . . . va'ivvater 'ani levaddi . . . ")
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To: big'ol_freeper
WARNING: Do not stand next to this individual during a thunderstorm.

I "learned" from a conservative "theistic evolutionist" FReeper this morning that G-d doesn't control the weather.

27 posted on 07/26/2005 4:06:14 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ('Ani hagever ra'ah `oni besheivet `evrato.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
I have to admit, reluctantly, that your #18 was pretty good.

It's hard for me to laugh about Mr. Spong. He's pretty evil. Then again, sometimes the best thing to do about evil is to laugh at it. At least that was something both Luther and St. Thomas More agreed on.

28 posted on 07/26/2005 4:35:45 PM PDT by Campion (Truth is not determined by a majority vote -- Pope Benedict XVI)
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I rather thought so --your style is different from his-- but it was meant as a compliment.


29 posted on 07/26/2005 4:47:57 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || Iran Azadi || Kyoto: Split Atoms, not Wood)
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To: sionnsar
I rather thought so --your style is different from his-- but it was meant as a compliment.

I know. That's how I took it. Thank you.

30 posted on 07/26/2005 4:51:55 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ('Ani hagever ra'ah `oni besheivet `evrato.)
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To: sionnsar
"Is it possible that a 3,000-year-old book captures the truth of God for all time?"

Yea, hath God said....?

Satan always tries to make a soul doubt the Word of God. It was the first words recorded that he said to a human and he hasn't stopped yet.
31 posted on 07/26/2005 5:00:57 PM PDT by DocRock
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To: sionnsar

The Serpent Speaks...


32 posted on 07/26/2005 5:06:42 PM PDT by Swordmaker (tagline now open, please ring bell.)
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To: Campion
I have to admit, reluctantly, that your #18 was pretty good.

Thanks.

But you don't like my singing?

33 posted on 07/26/2005 5:15:58 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ('Ani hagever ra'ah `oni besheivet `evrato.)
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To: sionnsar
I rather thought so --your style is different from his-- but it was meant as a compliment.

I notice that my religious beliefs are also different from his. But I still thank you for the compliment!

34 posted on 07/26/2005 5:17:33 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ('Ani hagever ra'ah `oni besheivet `evrato.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Absolutely classic stuff, ZC.

BTW - did you notice that Spong said the Bible was 3,000 years old?

Now I think the Torah was actually given 3450 years ago or thereabouts, but it's a pretty amazing statement.

The radical historical-critical types, depending on which ones you talk to, generally claim that the oldest Bible books to exist in their current form were compiled no earlier than Hezekiah - 2680 years ago.

He's basically saying that there was a Bible in the reign of David the King.

By his standards, that's a primitive notion.

35 posted on 07/26/2005 6:44:25 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander in Chief)
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To: sionnsar

I'd rather not be in the area when Spong faces his judgment.


36 posted on 07/26/2005 7:01:30 PM PDT by Marauder (If God lived on earth, liberals would break His windows.)
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To: wideawake
Absolutely classic stuff, ZC.

T'anks (as Maureen O'Hara would say).

BTW - did you notice that Spong said the Bible was 3,000 years old?

Now I think the Torah was actually given 3450 years ago or thereabouts, but it's a pretty amazing statement.

The radical historical-critical types, depending on which ones you talk to, generally claim that the oldest Bible books to exist in their current form were compiled no earlier than Hezekiah - 2680 years ago.

He's basically saying that there was a Bible in the reign of David the King.

By his standards, that's a primitive notion.

Come to think of it, you're right.

Ol' Spongy'll have to burn his vocal cords now for touchin' Fundamentalist soil! And since he's a white guy, he ought to be ashamed of himself!

37 posted on 07/26/2005 7:38:03 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ('Ani hagever ra'ah `oni besheivet `evrato.)
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To: sionnsar

itching-ears alert.


38 posted on 07/26/2005 7:39:15 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (In Honor of Terri Schiavo. *check my FReeppage for the link* Let it load and have the sound on.)
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To: sionnsar

And in a stunning gesture reflecting his moral consistancy, Bishop Spong stated that he would renounce his comfortable pension from the Episcopal Church...


39 posted on 07/26/2005 8:34:37 PM PDT by Frankster
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To: Zionist Conspirator
I'm sure the Black Southerners he loves so much would welcome him with open arms

John Shelby Spong has not forgotten the worst bits of his North Carolina upbringing, as his comments about his African brethren indicate:

"They've moved out of animism into a very superstitious kind of Christianity. They've yet to face the intellectual revolution of Copernicus and Einstein that we've had to face in the developing world; that is just not on their radar screen."

"If they feel patronized that's too bad. I'm not going to cease to be a 20th century person for fear of offending somebody in the Third World."

40 posted on 07/28/2005 7:09:53 AM PDT by Loyalist (Raphel mai amech zabi almi.)
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