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"The Document That Put Ratzinger on Top"
Catholic World News/La Stampa ^ | April 25, 2005 | Diogenes/Marco Tosatti

Posted on 04/25/2005 8:41:46 AM PDT by american colleen

The following article by Marco Tosatti, titled, "The Document That Put Ratzinger on Top," appeared in the Italian newspaper La Stampa last Friday (April 22). If the story it tells is true, it gives some grounds for hope that the will for reform may be taking root in places where it can make a difference.

A confidential but highly detailed document on the situation of the Church -- and especially the situation inside the Church -- circulated among the cardinals over the past few days, making a vivid impression and probably contributing indirectly to the choice of Joseph Ratzinger as the successor of Pope John Paul II. "I put my hand here after reading it, because I was afraid my heart would give out on me," one cardinal told us. It is an unsigned document, consisting of about ten sub-parts, which provides a picture of the situation of the clergy in various countries of the world, particularly Europe, Africa, and North America. We were not told who the author was, but certainly it was someone viewing the Church situation from a privileged vantage point, and very much an insider's one.

The "lack of integrity" of too many priests is put in stark relief: violation of the rules of celibacy, obviously, but not only that; problems tied to money, problems with the use of the faithful's contributions, and problems concerning the confessional as well. One example cited was the case of two young priests, guilty of violating the secrecy of the confessional and for that reason reduced to the lay state for thirty years by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. "Time was when the secrecy of the confessional was an impregnable rampart," remarked the aforementioned cardinal. It is likely that this document was the basis for erstwhile-Cardinal Ratzinger's seemingly harsh interventions.

The first of the series occurred during his reflections accompanying the Stations of the Cross on Good Friday, the reflection on Jesus' third fall under the weight of the cross. The Pope's theologian-friend wrote: "Ought we not call to mind how much Christ has to suffer in His own Church? ... How many times we celebrate only ourselves without so much as taking Him into consideration! ... How much filth there is in the Church, even among those who, by virtue of their priesthood, ought to belong entirely to Christ! How much vainglory, how much self-complacency! How little respect we show the Sacrament of Reconciliation, in which He awaits us to raise us up again every time we fall!"

It was a reflection in which he spoke of the Church as a "boat on the point of sinking, a boat taking in water on all sides. And also in Your field we see more darnel than wheat. To see the vesture and visage of Your Church so filthy throws us into confusion. Yet it is we ourselves who have soiled them! It is we who betray you time and time again, after all our lofty words and grand gestures."

Two days later, near the Vatican, Cardinal Ratzinger met on the street a retired curial monsignor who asked him the reason for giving what seemed a discouraging reflection. "We must pray much, we must pray much," answered Benedict XIV, "You weren't born yesterday; you understand what I'm talking about; you know what it means -- We priests! We priests!" he concluded in a tone of pleading, adding, "Remember the prayer to the Sacred Heart, in which we ask particular pardon for the sins of priests. I know it hurts to say the boat's taking in water from every side, but it's true, it's true. We priests ..."

Struck by the manner in which Ratzinger said, "we priests, we priests," the monsignor recognized his inner suffering and asked him nothing further.

Last Monday the dean of the College of Cardinals, Joseph Ratzinger, during the first act of the conclave, the Missa pro eligendo pontifice, gave the same cry of alarm in another form: "How many winds of doctrine we have known in recent decades, how many ideological currents, how many ways of thinking… The small boat of thought of many Christians has often been tossed about by these waves -- thrown from one extreme to the other: from Marxism to liberalism, even to libertinism; from collectivism to radical individualism; from atheism to a vague religious mysticism; from agnosticism to syncretism, and so forth. Every day new sects are created and what Saint Paul says about human trickery comes true, with cunning which tries to draw those into error."

At the end of the Mass many of the those present, including some of the cardinal electors, broke into applause. According to our source, this served as a "first ballot" indicating those in favor and those against, who kept both hands tightly gripping their Mass booklets. But the bleak picture of the situation within, and the need for a Pontiff able to grasp the helm of the Barque of Peter and keep hold of it, removed the reservations of many respecting the candidacy of Benedict XVI.


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To: Knitting A Conundrum
And purported prophecies of St. Malachy:

Prophecy of St Malachy (with list of Popes)

The Prophecies of St. Malachy

21 posted on 04/25/2005 6:14:02 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
And this:

OUR LADY OF FATIMA

 

Our Lady requested the children to pray the Rosary and to make reparation for poor sinners.

They were given a vision of hell, and on the last apparition Our Lady revealed herself as the Queen of the Rosary, there were about 70.000 people on the day of the last apparition in October, there was a great miracle of the sun and many people converted and received healings. Our Lady requested that a Church was built there.

The message of Fatima is the message for this century, it calls for Repentance, Penance, conversion and devotion to the Immaculate Heart of Mary.

Our Lady made several prophecies, including a secret message which is kept at the Vatican.

There is a great basilica in Fatima Portugal, where millions of people come yearly to pay tribute to Our Heavenly Mother and to request her intercession before her Son.

Sister Lucy, who recently died, received further messages from Our Lady, one which is the devotion of the five first Saturdays for five continuous months in reparation for the offences committed against Her Immaculate Heart.


22 posted on 04/25/2005 6:31:00 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

**Only two things can save us in such a grave hour: devotion to Mary and frequent Communion. Let us do our very best to use these two means and have others use them everywhere."**

So does this explain my urges to attend daily Mass and receive the Eucharist?


23 posted on 04/25/2005 6:36:37 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: american colleen
Not sure if this is worth a ping,

What are you kidding me? It sure is. Thanks for posting it.

24 posted on 04/25/2005 6:37:21 PM PDT by murphE (The crown of victory is promised only to those who engage in the struggle. St. Augustine)
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To: Salvation

Wouldn't be surprised!

Safest place to be at the time of storm is at the foot of the cross.


25 posted on 04/25/2005 6:44:22 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah; Gerard.P; vox_freedom; te lucis; rogator; Robert Drobot; Grey Ghost II; ...
Two days later, near the Vatican, Cardinal Ratzinger met on the street a retired curial monsignor who asked him the reason for giving what seemed a discouraging reflection. "We must pray much, we must pray much," answered Benedict XIV, "You weren't born yesterday; you understand what I'm talking about; you know what it means -- We priests! We priests!" he concluded in a tone of pleading, adding, "Remember the prayer to the Sacred Heart, in which we ask particular pardon for the sins of priests. I know it hurts to say the boat's taking in water from every side, but it's true, it's true. We priests ..."

Interesting. I'm not missing First Friday ever again. Pray, pray, pray for our Holy Father.

26 posted on 04/25/2005 6:44:27 PM PDT by murphE (The crown of victory is promised only to those who engage in the struggle. St. Augustine)
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To: murphE

**Interesting. I'm not missing First Friday ever again. Pray, pray, pray for our Holy Father.**

EVER!!

And spend an hour with the Lord in adoration too.


27 posted on 04/25/2005 6:51:39 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation
At our chapel, on First Fridays, we use this booklet after mass, then all night adoration, Benediction, and First Saturday mass in the morning.

Holy Hour of Reparation

28 posted on 04/25/2005 7:13:50 PM PDT by murphE (The crown of victory is promised only to those who engage in the struggle. St. Augustine)
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To: livius
I think he is going to have a tremendous amount of suffering. It is almost as if we are watching someone on the way to martyrdom. We must all pray constantly for him!

From the 2 papal masses this keeps sticking in my head John 21:18-19, apologies in advance for the old English :)

18 Amen, amen, I say to thee, When thou wast younger, thou didst gird thyself and didst walk where thou wouldst. But when thou shalt be old, thou shalt stretch forth thy hands, and another shall gird thee and lead thee whither thou wouldst not. 19 And this he said, signifying by what death he should glorify God. And when he had said this, he saith to him: Follow me.

29 posted on 04/25/2005 7:21:12 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (no electrons were harmed in the making of this tagline)
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To: american colleen

Good post. VERY interesting.


30 posted on 04/25/2005 8:12:04 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: k omalley
I have a feeling that Benedict is going to make some unpopular decisions and will be ripped to shreds in the press and by liberal Catholics.

Can't wait.

Wish he'd start by ex-communicating dissident "catholic" organisations like Catholics for a Free Choice and others like them. These groups cause scandal to the faithful as many MSM outlets give them credibility in interviews, touting them as "catholic" when they are obviously not.

It's ironic that many people are hoping he (Pope Benedict) will change his "hard image" now that's he pope. I'm hoping the opposite - I'm hoping he'll continue in the same vein he was when he was enforcing doctrine and clean house!

31 posted on 04/25/2005 8:21:40 PM PDT by Caravaggio
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To: Caravaggio

I agree!


32 posted on 04/25/2005 9:28:55 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: american colleen

No wonder he is disturbed...As many of us are. It seems to be worse than I imagined if he is so distressed. He is in my prayers daily!


33 posted on 04/25/2005 9:45:13 PM PDT by lainde
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To: murphE

I wish that we had the all night adoration. Sigh.............

Another great booklet is

An Hour with Jesus


34 posted on 04/25/2005 11:03:48 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

Off to check out those links on St. Malachy. By the way, our local NBC affiliate today on the noon news broadcast a piece on St. Malachy and his prophecies on the Popes.


35 posted on 04/25/2005 11:08:57 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: dubyaismypresident
From the 2 papal masses this keeps sticking in my head John 21:18-19

I had the same experience - those words seemed very real to me. BTW, I am not somebody who normally goes in for dire imaginings or predictions, and I don't know why I feel this way.

Perhaps it's because the Church has had a 40 year holiday from being the Church, and the secular world was beginning to hope that the Church was simply worn out and no longer a threat to it. While we know that faith certainly remained in the Church, it was hidden by the many noisy voices of accomodation and the secular world mistakenly thought it was gone for good. The Church, in the future, was just going to be feel-good public events and a little window-dressing around daily life.

And then came Benedict XVI and the secularists suddenly realized that they had miscalculated. And now they are furious, and will only get more furious in the future.

37 posted on 04/26/2005 3:45:51 AM PDT by livius
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To: livius

40 years in the desert, til we come to the Promised Land...


38 posted on 04/26/2005 5:25:18 AM PDT by Eepsy
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To: livius
In keeping with your thoughts, imagine the burden this pope is shouldering - and at age 78? He needs many prayers and sacrifices from the flock.

While I am joyous and so very hopeful, it is somewhat tempered when I realize the responsibility Benedict XVI has been given.

39 posted on 04/26/2005 7:21:12 AM PDT by american colleen (Long live Benedict XVI!)
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To: american colleen

bump for later


40 posted on 04/26/2005 7:23:38 AM PDT by St.Chuck
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