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To: livius
I think he is going to have a tremendous amount of suffering. It is almost as if we are watching someone on the way to martyrdom. We must all pray constantly for him!

From the 2 papal masses this keeps sticking in my head John 21:18-19, apologies in advance for the old English :)

18 Amen, amen, I say to thee, When thou wast younger, thou didst gird thyself and didst walk where thou wouldst. But when thou shalt be old, thou shalt stretch forth thy hands, and another shall gird thee and lead thee whither thou wouldst not. 19 And this he said, signifying by what death he should glorify God. And when he had said this, he saith to him: Follow me.

29 posted on 04/25/2005 7:21:12 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (no electrons were harmed in the making of this tagline)
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To: dubyaismypresident
From the 2 papal masses this keeps sticking in my head John 21:18-19

I had the same experience - those words seemed very real to me. BTW, I am not somebody who normally goes in for dire imaginings or predictions, and I don't know why I feel this way.

Perhaps it's because the Church has had a 40 year holiday from being the Church, and the secular world was beginning to hope that the Church was simply worn out and no longer a threat to it. While we know that faith certainly remained in the Church, it was hidden by the many noisy voices of accomodation and the secular world mistakenly thought it was gone for good. The Church, in the future, was just going to be feel-good public events and a little window-dressing around daily life.

And then came Benedict XVI and the secularists suddenly realized that they had miscalculated. And now they are furious, and will only get more furious in the future.

37 posted on 04/26/2005 3:45:51 AM PDT by livius
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