Posted on 11/28/2004 3:42:04 PM PST by AskStPhilomena
These PoMo priests should lay off the sacramental wine. They get all giddy and too ecumenical.
I should point out that my reaction to the word 'abba' is based on its use by small children in modern Hebrew to mean 'daddy', like children say 'dada' in English. It is used in Yiddish and Aramaic as a straightforward translation that means the more formal 'father'. I am unaware of any reason to believe that 'abba' was informal when Aramaic was spoken 2000 years ago as its form is a very standard one.
The title is deliberately provocative, but this article raises a good point. Is there one God or many? Is god universal, Omnipotent, infinite? I thought these were cornerstones of belief.
Yet if this is true, then all these Gods are simply one God. A wise man, asked what God was, once said, "I don't know, but I know there is only one."
Now, if there is only one God, then all teh gods of the various religions are just mere names for the same God: Allah, Jehovah, Jahweh, Waheguru, Atman, God, etc. It matters not to God what you call God. Call God Fred for all God cares. But it matters a great deal to you, for it determines how you see God, and how you see God is how God will show up in your life.
They aren't even p[laces at all, but states of being. If you find yourself in Hell, then change the way you think about it and you can be in Heaven.
"Heaven is not a place or time; Heaven is being perfect." -- Jonathan Livingston Seagull
"Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father in Heaven is perfect." -- Jesus.
And in Swedish, it means "rock group."
So there is more than one?
Christians and Jews worship the same God. Muslims worship a foreign god that their fathers did not know.
'Salamuh LAYkum brothers and sister! Does this mean Father Willy will be serving Bean Pies after Midnight Mass?
LOL
Yeah right! And I'm my own Grampa too.
Isaiah, writing in Hebrew rather than Aramaic, uses avinu (Father) in reference to God in Isaiah 63:16.
Is the God of Israel a false god as well?
I prefer to say that Christians and Jews worship the same God, but we differ in our beliefs about certain aspects of His nature.
Maybe they meant Abba's fathers?
Garbage.
The Jews worship the Father only (though Jesus says they rejected the Father when they rejected the Son)...
The Christians worship the Triune God in the Blessed Trinity.
The Muslims worship the bloodthirsty (false, pagan) Arab Moon god and some meteorite in Mecca.
Many of us Proddies invoke that image in prayer and the following Hymn:
Arise, My Soul, Arise (Charles Wesley)
1. Arise, my soul, arise,
shake off your guilty fears;
The bleeding sacrifice,
in my behalf appears;
Before the throne my Surety stands,
Before the throne my Surety stands,
My name is written on His hands.
Chorus: Arise (arise), arise (arise), arise
Arise, my soul, arise.
Arise (arise), arise (arise), arise
Arise, my soul, arise.
Shake off your guilty fears and rise
2. He ever lives above,
for me to intercede;
His all redeeming love,
His precious blood, to plead;
His blood atoned for every race,
His blood atoned for every race,
And sprinkles now the throne of grace.
3. Five bleeding wounds He bears;
received on Calvary;
They pour effectual prayers;
they strongly plead for me:
"Forgive him, O forgive," they cry,
"Forgive him, O forgive," they cry,
"Nor let that ransomed sinner die!"
4. The Father hears Him pray,
His dear anointed One;
He cannot turn away
the presence of His Son;
The Spirit answers to the blood,
The Spirit answers to the blood
And tells me I am born of God.
5. My God is reconciled;
His pardoning voice I hear;
He owns me for His child;
I can no longer fear
With confidence I now draw nigh,
With confidence I now draw nigh,
And "Father, Abba, Father," cry.
Allah means God. It is not a name. So they call their evil notion of God, but they have a false concept of God.
No doubt the Muhammadan concept of Allah owes something to the pre-Islamic Meccan cult of Jahilia. It is a false concept of Allah. But Allah is God.
Christians who speak Arabic call the real God, Allah. So do Jews spaeking Arabic. It's the word in that language since before the hideous Muhammadan concept was spawned.
http://www.prophetofdoom.net/
I wouldn't give that guy a lot of credibility, he's a Christian heretic. A member of an obscure sect, in other words he can't get his Christian theology correct much less some other religion. His lack of knowledge of history is pretty glaring.
I prefer my refutations from authentic Catholic sources. In The Great Heresies Hilaire Belloc lays out the true history of Islam.
As it is a Christian heresy the points of commonality enumerated in Vatican II are correct. That doesn't however make the religion itself correct, no more than any other heresy.
Msgr. Lefebvre was an "ecumaniac"?
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