WHO ARE THE KENITES? islamic facist killers are the blood line of Cain!!!!!

1Chronicles 2:55 1Ch 2:55 And the families of the scribes which dwelt at Jabez; the Tirathites, the Shimeathites, [and] Suchathites. These [are] the Kenites that came of Hemath, the father of the house of Rechab.

This word Kenites in the Hebrew is the Strong's Concordance number 7017 and 7014. Below are the meanings of this word in the Hebrew.

7014-- the same as 7013 ( with a play upon the affinity of 7069); Kajin, the name of the first child, also a place in Pal. and of an Oriental tribe: -Cain, Kenites.

Cain in the Hebrew is 7014 also which further denotes the fact that we are speaking of Cain the first child the father of the kenites.

That is why 7017 says a member of the tribe of Kajin which is Cain. Cain is the father of the kenite tribe or family.

With that being said and clarified, lets now go on further and check out just who is the father of Cain and you will begin to see why he was so evil and could kill / murder his brother Abel. As well as why the kenites / those who claim to be of our brother Judah or a Jew and or not could kill Christ.

Who is Cain's Father? Gen 3:1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

This word serpent in the Hebrew means a hiss of a snake or a whisper or magic spell and enchanter.

This serpent is none other than Satan himself, as noted in 2Corinthians 11:1-3 below where the word serpent in the Greek means satan and these very verses are referring to what happened here in Genesis 3 with Eve. And how satan beguiled or holy seduced and slept with Eve, for the word beguiled in the Greek means to Holy seduce.

2Corinthians 11:1-3 2Cr 11:1 Would to God ye could bear with me a little in [my] folly: and indeed bear with me. 2Cr 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present [you as] a chaste virgin to Christ. 2Cr 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

Even Paul taught about what happened between Eve and satan. He knew she was seduced by satan.

Satan is asking Eve [for snakes cannot talk] hath God said ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? Bear in mind trees in the bible are symbolic of people.

In this garden we had trees good for food, as well as the tree of life [ which is Christ] and also the the tree of knowledge of good and evil [satan], as noted in Genesis 2:9.

Satan is going to tempt Eve to disobey God, just as he will us today if we do not stay sharp in God's word. Satan is a charmer who will attempt to charm you with lies that sound so right, yet they do not align with God's word.

Gen 3:2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:

Gen 3:3 But of the fruit of the tree which [is] in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

This is speaking of satan / the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, as noted in Genesis 2:16-17. Only satan could teach one evil ways. And satan is very wise and knows God's word better than most christians. only problem is he twist God's word to mislead people, as he attempted to do to Christ in Matthew 4. Even satan knows there is but one God, as noted in James 2:19 and trys to keep people uneducated about that one true God.

This word touch in the Hebrew means to lay the hand upon (for any purpose; euphem., to lie with a woman). Listening to satan's lies kills one spiritually to understanding the true word of God. We will see further on in this chapter that Eve did not eat an apple, but rather slept with satan and from that came Cain. This is why Cain is not mentioned in Adam's geneology in Genesis 5. Abel isn't mentioned for he was murdered and did not live long enough to produce an offspring. Cain has his own geneology in Genesis 4:16-24.

Here we have satan tempting and trying to charm Eve to disobey God's word telling her you won't die like God said you would. This is satan's MO [ method of operation]. He is a charmer and trys to say it is o.k. if we twist God's word a little here and a little there so we can do as we like. Watch out. Do not be fooled by satan and only believe God's word.

Gen 3:5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

Satan is lying here. For to listen to satan and his lies, closes ones eyes to the truth of God's word and makes one listen to evil instead of God and that which is good.

Gen 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree [was] good for food, and that it [was] pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make [one] wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

Eve allowed satan to snow her under with lies and she found him to be one handsome dude. She not only listened to satan's lies, but slept with him also as you'll see in a few more verses for their is a conception spoken of in a few more verses. He not only deceived Eve, but slept with Adam also [in my opinion]. For there is no mention of Adam knowing [sleeping with] Eve until Genesis 4:1, which took place AFTER she slept with satan and conceived Cain. Eve gave birth to twins and they had different fathers. This still today is medically possible and has happened. Lets take a closer look at Genesis 4:1-2.

Gen4:1 AND Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.

When Eve gave birth she had twins. Cain was born first from Eve's first conception with satan. Yes she did get a child from the LORD, for all babies are a gift from God, but this does not change the fact that Cain was satan's son, as we will further document in this study.

Gen 4:2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.

Again in the Hebrew means she continued in labour. So here we see that Cain and Abel were twins with different fathers. That is why Cain was so evil and could kill his own brother.

It was not eating an apple that made God angry [no apple even mentioned here], but Adam and Eve listening to satan's lies sleeping with satan. Satan through this was trying to corrupt the seedline in which Christ would come through to attempt to disrupt God's overall plan of salvation and Christ being born.

Gen 3:7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they [were] naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.

They were not trying to cover their mouth, but their private parts to attempt to cover up what they had done.

Gen 3:8 And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.

Gen 3:10 And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I [was] naked; and I hid myself.

Adam confessed to knowing he was naked and that he was afraid of God for he had partook of the tree God told them not to touch.

Gen 3:11 And he said, Who told thee that thou [wast] naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?

God is coming down on Adam for being disobedient to Him and listening to satan and allowing satan to deceive them. Just as today God does not like it when we allow satan to mislead us with false doctrine, that causes us to whore around with traditions of men instead of God's word.

Gen 3:12 And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest [to be] with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.

Here we have Adam explaining why he slept with satan and was seduced by him. Adam here saying Eve talked me into it. LOL Trying to place all the blame on Eve. If someone misleads us, it is because WE ALLOW IT to happen. Still Adam should not have fallen for it. Never go with the majority and ALWAYS study God's word and think for yourself.

Gen 3:13 And the LORD God said unto the woman, What [is] this [that] thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.

Here we have Eve explaining to God that satan had seduced her, which is what beguiled means. This is also what Paul was warning us of in 2Corinthians 11:1-3.

Gen 3:14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou [art] cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

Here we have God coming down on satan for seducing Eve. This just means satan is lower than a snakes belly. He is cursed and never going to amount to anything for he will ultimately be cast into the lake of fire.

Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

Seed here means child in the Hebrew. We know it is not physical seed like to plant in a garden, for seeds in a garden do not have enmity towards one another but flesh children do. This is why Cain hated and killed Abel. He was satan's seed / child. Abel was Eve and Adam's child. Also this refers to the fact that Christ would come through the lineage of Adam and Eve down the line and that satan through Cain's offspring the Kenites would bruise Christ heel on the cross and kill him. And in the end of this final generation Christ will throw satan into the lake of fire and use His elect to bruise satan's head by teaching God's word / truth to refute satan's lies.

Gen 3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire [shall be] to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

Here we have conception mentioned. God is going to allow her to be pregnant by this evil one. Remember she has yet to sleep with Adam.

St.John 8:33-47 Jhn 8:31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;

This word continue in the Greek means to abide or dwell in. Christ is telling those of Judah as well as us today who do believe in Him and abide in His word, that they are His disciples indeed. However, there are the Kenites who claim to be of Judah or Jews, but are not but are of satan, as noted in Revelation 2:9 to the church of Smyrna below:

Rev 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Those who seek God's word and follow Christ the Living Word, shall know the truth and shall be free from deception and lies that put some in bondage.

Jhn 8:33 They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?

Here we have the ones who claim to be of Judah the Kenites answering Christ back. They are in bondage all right to satan. Just as man today by false teaching have been put in bondage and do not realize it and think they are in good standing with God.

Jhn 8:34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.

Jhn 8:35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: [but] the Son abideth ever.

Christ is the Living Word and it is forever and never changes, as noted in Hebrews 13:8.

Jhn 8:37 I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.

I feel this should be translated I know YE SAY ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.

For the next few verses from Christ will make that clear, for Christ himself is about to tell us these are not of God, but of satan.

These are Kenites sons of Cain the first murderer. Looks like murder is a family trait doesn't it?

Jhn 8:38 I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father.

Notice the capitial F in Father for God and the small f in the second father denoting not God, but satan. Christ is saying your traits are that of satan your father.

Notice here that these kenites sons of Cain off spring of Satan's son, are trying to convince Christ himself they are of God. Don't think if they tried this with Christ himself, that they want go around to this day claiming to be Jews or christians of God and do satan's work. This is their MO [method of operation].

Jhn 8:39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.

By their fruits ye shall know them. If they do not the works of God and those God sent that taught God's word, then they are not of God. Christ wasn't stupid and did not fall for their lies. And neither should we today. Not all false teachers are Kenites, but some false teachers have merely been deceived by the Kenites teaching and think it is God's word, so therefore they continue to help spread the lies.

Jhn 8:40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.

Christ knew they wanted to murder Him. They could lie all they wanted to, but Christ could read their mind. Abraham nor any of the children of God would have sought to kill Christ. Only someone of satan's offspring would want to do such a thing.

Jhn 8:41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, [even] God.

Here we have Christ for the 2nd time confronting them telling them exactly who they are. Just as we today should study God's word, and know what does and does not align with God's word, whereby noone can mislead us.

Jhn 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.

Again Christ calling a spade a spade. If they loved God they would have also loved His only begotten Son. They did not love Christ but wanted to murder Him.

Jhn 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? [even] because ye cannot hear my word.

This word hear in the Greek means to hear God's word with understanding. They could not understand Christ speech/ word, because they were not of God, as Christ himself is about to tell us in the next verse.

Jhn 8:44 Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Here Christ tells them for the 3rd time for emphasis that they ARE NOT of God, but are of their father satan in the sense that Cain's father was Satan. He/ Cain was the first murderer in the beginning. Satan and his son Cain and Cain's offspring the Kenites are liars, as stated here by Christ the Living Word Himself.

Jhn 8:46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?

Christ commited no sin. These were trying to find a reason to kill Him to make themselves look squeaky clean and innocent. See how subtil and cunning satan and his offspring are. They lie and swear it is the truth and twist God's words. They kill many spiritually today by teachings lies instead of God's word. This is why one should always check ALL men out in God's word and allow noone to mislead you. There are still Kenites out there and then there are those who teach falsely who have themselves been mislead by the Kenlies and do not realize it.

Jhn 8:47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear [them] not, because ye are not of God.

There for the fourth time Christ tells them and us today they are not of God. They are murderers. Offspring of the devil and sons of Cain the first murderer.

1John 3:11-12 1Jo 3:11 For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.

1Jo 3:12 Not as Cain, [who] was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.

This verse 12 here states specifically that Cain was of that wicked one which is none other than satan. This is why Cain could murder Abel. For he was the son that wicked one and was wicked also. The wicked one is satan.

Revelation 2:8-9 Rev 2:8 And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive:

Rev 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and [I know] the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but [are] the synagogue of Satan.

Here Christ tells us that there are some / Kenites who claim to be of Judah or Jews, and are not, but are of Satan and are Satan's offspring which would be the sons of Cain / Kenites, for Cain was satan's son and the Kenites are the offspring of Cain. This will be further documented in the verses below that cover the parable of the tares.

Revelation 3:9 Rev 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

Here again a 2nd witness from Christ that indeed there are some who claim to be Jews and are not but are of satan.

Last but not least Christ also warned us of these offspring of satan in the parable of the tares, as noted in Matthew 13:24-30 and Matthew 13:36-43.

Parable Of The Tares Mat 13:24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:

#4690. Sperma; something sown, seed (including the male "sperm"); by implied offspring; specifically a remnant (fig. as if kept over for planting): issue, seed.

We are talking about the sperm / seed planted in the garden with Eve and satan as you will see when we finish this parable of the tares.

Tares are symbolic of the Kenites, who claim to be Jews or children of God and are not but are of satan.

Mat 13:25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.

2190. ekh-thros; (to hate); hateful (pass. odious, or act hostile); usually as a noun, an adversary (especially Satan):- enemy, foe. Many today are spiritually asleep to the true word of God and the enemy / satan works overtime pumping man's traditions into them and they don't even realize it for they have been blinded and lulled off to sleep by man's traditions.

Satan through sleeping with Eve sowed the evil children / tares / Kenites among the children of God. This would have never happened, had Eve listened to God and did not touch/ sleep with the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, which was none other than satan himself.

Mat 13:26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.

These tares looked alot like wheat till full grown. We are to test the fruit or what man teaches to see if it aligns with God's word or not. If it does not then it is not of God. Many people look christianly and say they are christians, but are they really? Are they teaching what aligns with God's word? By their fruits ye shall know them, as noted in Matthew 7:15-20. Especially verse 20.

Mat 13:27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?

Symbolic of God's children asking God didn't He sow only good seed or children? And why are there tares / Kenites then? See those who are truly children of God and know God's word, will be able to recognize and discern between God's word and man's and those who are called of God to teach and those who are not. They also can discern the ways of a Kenite and when one is furthering satan's doctrine rather than God's word.

Mat 13:28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?

God is telling us here that satan the enemy hath done this. The children of God asking do you want us to get rid of them?

Mat 13:29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.

God said NO do not get rid of the tares / Kenites lest you uproot the children of God also. You see many of God's children are so intertwined in the Kenites false doctrine that it is so hard to tell who is a GENUINE Kenite or offspring of satan and who is just an innocent child of God that has gotten themselves caught up in man's traditions. Even a Kenite can be converted, if they turn to God and leave their father satan's lies.

This is why we are to share God's word and let God through His word open the eyes of His children to false teachings and gently bring them back to Father's word and teach them to study for themselves and check ALL men out in God's word. This is how one breaks the hold of the Kenites teaching. Not by attacking the Kenites and stooping to their level.

Mat 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

Harvest time is when Christ returns AFTER the antichrist reign where satan plays or pretends He is Christ come to rapture you away. As further documented in this study The Truth About The Rapture Theory.

Those who flock to the antichrist thinking they are flying out of here will be gathered with the tares in danger of hell fire, if they do not open their eyes to the true God during the millenium reign spoken of in Revelation 20. God is against the rapture theory or fly away teaching, as noted in Ezekiel 13:20.

Explanation Of The Parable Of The Tares Mat 13:36 Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.

Christ speaking only to His disciples here. The majority do not always hear God's word. Only those God feels can handle it at that time. Or as most call them God's elect

Mat 13:37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;

Mat 13:38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked [one];

Here we have it again. The tares are the children of the wicked one, just as Cain was, because they are Cain's offspring which are known as the Kenites.

Mat 13:39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.

Christ tells us point blank the enemy is the devil, not a snake or serpent. This happened when Eve slept with satan and conceived Cain the evil one who murdered Abel.

Mat 13:40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.

God is going to cast all the tares and those who follow the tares into the lake of fire, IF they do not get their act together by the end of the millenium reign mentioned in Revelation 20.

Mat 13:41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;

Mat 13:42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

This will happen on judgment day. So sad that some would choose to follow the kenite or satanic ways that will lead them to hell.

Mat 13:43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

Then shall the righteous have eternal life forever with God. Not all have ears to hear. Do you? Can you hear what Father is telling you in this parable? Be sharp and be wiser than satan for he is out to mislead and deceive and spiritually impregnate you with his lies, just as he physically impregnated Eve to try and prevent the Christ child from eventually being born. Today satan uses lies to try and prevent God's children from knowing the true Christ the Living Word of God.

By the Way, its good to see you!

I started compiling this over a year ago. I think it may help to strengthen repub32's point, though I am unsure if kenites are canaanites. Anyway, here goes.

Genesis 9:18
And the sons of Noah, that went forth from the ark, were Shem, and Ham, and Japheth; and Ham is the father of Canaan.

The decendants of Ham went after false gods...

Deuteronomy 20
16 Howbeit of the cities of these peoples, that YHWH thy God giveth thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth,
17 but thou shalt utterly destroy them: the Hittite, and the Amorite, the Canaanite, and the Perizzite, the Hivite, and the Jebusite; as YHWH thy God hath commanded thee;
18 that they teach you not to do after all their abominations, which they have done unto their gods, and so ye sin against YHWH your God.

Deuteronomy 1
4 after he had smitten Sihon the king of the Amorites, who dwelt in Heshbon, and Og the king of Bashan, who dwelt in Ashtaroth, at Edrei;

Sihon = "warrior" 5511 from the Hebrew
1) king of the Amorites at the time of the conquest and defeated by Moses in Transjordan

Judges 10:6 (JPS - DNR)
And the children of Israel again did that which was evil in the sight of YHWH, and served the Baalim, and the Ashtaroth, and the gods of Aram, and the gods of Zidon, and the gods of Moab, and the gods of the children of Ammon, and the gods of the Philistines; and they forsook YHWH, and served Him not.

YHWH warned His people to NOT go after the ways of the Moabites, Canaanites, Ammonites etc.

Something else, and maybe it isn't related but, these tribes were in the areas of Egypt, Jordan, Iraq... Emim = Imam?

0368 'Eymiym ay-meem' plural of 367; terrors; Emim, an early Canaanitish (or Maobitish) tribe:--Emims.
Emims = "terrors"
1) ancient inhabitants of Moab

Deuteronomy 2:11
these also are accounted Rephaim, as the Anakim; but the Moabites call them Emim.

7497 rapha' raw-faw' or raphah {raw-faw'}
1) giants, Rephaim
a) old tribe of giants

from the Hebrew
6061 `Anaq aw-nawk'
Anak = "neck"
1) progenitor of a family, or tribe of the giant people in Canaan

6062 `Anaqiy an-aw-kee' patronymically from 6061; an Anakite or descendant of Anak:--Anakim.
Anakims = "long-necked"
1) a tribe of giants, descendants of Anak, which dwelled in southern Canaan

giants from the Hebrew
5303 nphiyl nef-eel' or nphil {nef-eel'}; from 5307; properly, a feller, i.e. a bully or tyrant:--giant.
1) giants, the Nephilim Deuteronomy 9
2 a people great and tall, the sons of the Anakim, whom thou knowest, and of whom thou hast heard say: 'Who can stand before the sons of Anak?'

Joshua 13
12 all the kingdom of Og in Bashan, who reigned in Ashtaroth and in Edrei -- the same was left of the remnant of the Rephaim -- for these did Moses smite, and drove them out.

from the Hebrew
5747 Owg ogue; Og, a king of Bashan:--Og.
Og = "long-necked"
1) the Amorite king of Bashan and one of the last representatives of the giants of Rephaim

from the Hebrew
4031
Magog = "land of Gog"
1) the 2nd son of Japheth, grandson of Noah, and progenitor of several tribes northward from Israel

Genesis 6:10
And Noah begot three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth.

Also, remember Gog and Magog.

Revelation 20:
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

I think the camp of the saints and the beloved city are Jerusalem. Israel is surrounded by Arabs/Muslims.

The battle of Gog and Magog isn't between Gog and Magog. It looks to me like Gog and Magog join forces.

from the Greek
3098 Magog mag-ogue' of Hebrew origin (4031); Magog, a foreign nation, i.e. (figuratively) an Antichristian party:--Magog.
Magog = "overtopping: covering"
1) a land north of Israel from which the King of Gog will come to attack Israel

Israel is NOT a Christian nation. Gog is going to attack Israel because it is a Jewish nation, so Gog is an anti-semitic party!!!

Gog 1463 from the Hebrew
Gog = "mountain"
1) a Reubenite, son of Shemaiah
2) the prophetic prince of Rosh, Meshech and Tubal, and Magog

Gog 1136 from the Greek
Gog = "mountain"
1) the king of the land of Magog who will come from the north and attack the land of Israel

Gen 3:15 God said that He would enmity between Satan's seed (offspring) and Eve's seed (offspring). That enmity produced the first murder!

John 8:39-40
They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.

"Jesus knew who they were"

[40] But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.

John 8:44
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Christ is speaking of the murder and the lies

In the first epistle of John that Cain was "of" (meaning offspring of) that wicked one. Plain and simply, like it or not, believe it or not, Cain was Satan's son, not Adam's.

1 John 3:12
Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.

The word "Cain" in Hebrew is "Kajin", spelled with a "K", and so his children are naturally called Kenites, a transliteration (which is basically a letter to letter conversion) from the Hebrew to English. Look up the word "kenites" in a World Book Encyclopedia Dictionary. They are defined as the children of Cain (Kain-ites).

Matthew 23:29-35
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous, [30] And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets. [31] Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets. [32] Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers. [33] Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell? [34] Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city: [35] That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.

1 Chron. 2:55
And the families of the scribes which dwelt at Jabez; the Tirathites, the Shimeathites, and Suchathites. These are the Kenites that came of Hemath, the father of the house of Rechab.

And by the way, the time of 1 Chron. 2:55 is well after the flood of Noah! Do you know what that means? The sons of Cain made it through the flood! But, how is that possible? It is really quite simple and we will learn the exciting truth of the matter when we get to chapter six.

Genesis 4:15
And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.

Vengeance is mine saith the Lord (Rom. 12:19).

Cain will be used to fulfill the "negative part" of God's plan. Cain was marked by GOD and it was'nt 666 he was MARKED to suffer for the end times and GOD wanted his vengence on him no one else to hAVE IT. THe MArk of the Beast is the great FAMINE in the end not knowing or even understanding the word of GOD and the plan he has including the plan of EVIl which does have a bloodline.

Not only do the "tares" look like the "wheat" (Mat. 13), but you cannot reliably tell them apart by their names either.

[19] And Lamech took unto him two wives: the name of the one was Adah, and the name of the other Zillah.

[20] And Adah bare Jabal: he was the father of such as dwell in tents, and of such as have cattle.

[21] And his brother's name was Jubal: he was the father of all such as handle the harp and organ.

[22] And Zillah, she also bare Tubal-cain, an instructer of every artificer in brass and iron: and the sister of Tubal-cain was Naamah.

Tubal-cain also means producer of weapons

It would be from the religions founded by this one, Cain, that all the nations of the earth would be made "drunk".

Rev. 14:8
And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.

Rev. 17:2
With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.

[25] And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.

Seth means substituted. God has raised up another "seed" to take the place of Abel in the genealogy that would bring forth Jesus Christ, the Messiah.

[26] And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the LORD.

Enos means frail, incurable.

You need to find yourself a good Hebrew scholar like the one I see every week and besides yes I love the pentacostal church THey teach scripture not church and mans law and interpretation. I mean you sound just like the Pharisee's(kenites) telling me Im a big boy and I will find my way well I belive it is you who needs to find his way and I say that in the most loving way I can. I mean to say that there are only certain ppl. who are allowed to teach the WORD of GOD and that woman especially should'nt be teaching is such crap show me it in scripture backed up by more then just one scripture AND mke sure you understand if that scripture or not is being used symbolically. Christ himself never said that only certain ppl. can and should teach his word. Are you telling me the one person we both know who has been learning the WORD fo GOD for over 20 years now is sinning or that she has no right to teach. I doubt you have been able to stump her yet?you havebeen teaching learning for what a year and of course you are alwys right, come on now THE catholic church the Pharisee's teach their laws not the teachings of christ that is why so many walk out of the Catholic church to never return because they find no fufillment I know I have spoke to many. You dont even allow those close to you to search on their own When Christ tells us we are responsibleto seek out the truth and have the eyes to see and the ears to hear HE spoke in Parables for this very reason. (mat: 13)it is not up to you to stop anyone from learning,teaching or seeking out the truth that is more like Islam then anything to restrict one from finding the truth especially in the word of GOD. SHow me were it is Christ said only certain ppl. could lead the masses to his word??????????It was the Pharisee's CHrist had a big problem with for they loved not GOD but themselves and their laws and Jesus told them so. Even when he showed them with the miracles he performed they still ignored him.

I did some digging into this 'rapture' business, some time back and this is what I determined.

First I noticed some variances with the following verses, depending on which bible a person uses.

Luke 17 (KJV)
33 Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.
34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
37 And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together.

The verse in question is 37. I did a search on the word eagles. Got this.

From the Greek
105 aetos ah-et-os'
1) an eagle: since eagles do not usually go in quest of carrion, this may apply to a vulture that resembles an eagle
2) an eagle as a standard (Roman Military)

Ok... so why the mention of carrion? So, I checked other bibles.

Luke 17 (NIV)
37"Where, Lord?" they asked. He replied, "Where there is a dead body, there the vultures will gather."

Luke 17 (NASB)
37 And answering they said to Him, "Where, Lord?" And He said to them, "Where the body is, there also the vultures will be gathered."

Luke 17 (AMP)
37Then they asked Him, Where, Lord? He said to them, Wherever the dead body is, there will the vultures or eagles be gathered together.

Luke 17 (NLT)
37"Lord, where will this happen?" the disciples asked. Jesus replied, "Just as the gathering of vultures shows there is a carcass nearby, so these signs indicate that the end is near."[1]
Footnotes
1. 17:37 Greek Wherever the carcass is, the vultures gather.

Luke 17 (WE)
37 They asked him, `Where will this be, Lord?' He said, `The big birds that eat meat will go to the place where the dead body is.'

So, let's look at some parallel verses from Matthew.

Matthew 24 (KJV)
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

It seems that corpse and vultures would be the more proper reading. Notice that in verse 39, the wicked who perished in the flood are described as being taken away. The wicked are taken first, not the righteous. Next, it tells us that it shall be exactly the same at the arrival of Messiah. In the days of Noah, those taken first perished, and so it will be again at the arrival of Messiah. The answer given by Yehoshua refers to the vultures gathering over the bodies of the wicked, those taken first, which are all slain as the Messiah arrives.

Now, let's look at the tares and wheat:

Matthew 13 (KJV)
24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:
25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

Yehoshua then explains the parable in detail to His disciples:

Matthew 13
36 Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.
37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

Notice the timing of events described, and how it compares with those taken first in Matthew 24:39-42. At the end of the world, when the time for the harvest of humanity has come, it is not the righteous who are gathered first, it is the wicked! The wicked are taken and dealt with first, while the people of YHWH are still among them.

Now, read Luke 17:26-30.

Luke 17 (KJV)
26   And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.
27   They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.
28   Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;
29   But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30   Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

Sudden destruction comes upon the wicked at the arrival of Messiah. They will all perish.

Revelation 3 (all the following are from the KJV)
3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.

Revelation 3
11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.

Revelation 16
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

Revelation 22
7 Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book.

Revelation 22
12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

Revelation 22
20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

You can't surprise the wicked if you take away the righteous first. Messiah is supposed to come quickly, like a thief in the night, so people are to repent, live righteously and be watchful, lest they be caught by surprise. If you remove the righteous first, the wicked are going to notice and not be surprised.

Revelation 16 shows the last seven plagues being poured out on the unrepentant wicked of the earth. Through verse 12 the first six of the plagues are poured out, and then in verse 15-

Revelation 16
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

Messiah has not come yet at the time of the sixth plague! Notice that the seventh plague then falls in verse 17-

Revelation 16 (KJV)
17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

At the time the seventh plague is announcing the time for earth has come to an end, and the arrival of Messiah follows. So, Messiah does not come to earth until after all seven plagues have been poured out on the wicked. The faithful are not removed at any point prior to these plagues, they have endured them without fear of being affected by them.

Psalm 91 (JPS)
5 Thou shalt not be afraid of the terror by night, nor of the arrow that flieth by day;
6 Of the pestilence that walketh in darkness, nor of the destruction that wasteth at noonday.
7 A thousand may fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; it shall not come nigh thee.
8 Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold, and see the recompense of the wicked.
9 For thou hast made YHWH who is my refuge, even the Most High, thy habitation.
10 There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy tent.
11 For He will give His angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways.

Proverbs 10:30   The righteous shall never be removed: but the wicked shall not inhabit the earth.

From what I read, there is no foundation for a pre-trib rapture or removal of the righteous at all.

I think the tribulation is the judgement. No one escapes the judgement.

Matthew 16
27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.

Rewards aren't given prior, they are given after.

Psalm 37 (JPS)
9 For evil-doers shall be cut off; but those that wait for YHWH, they shall inherit the land.
20 For the wicked shall perish, and the enemies of YHWH shall be as the fat of lambs -- they shall pass away in smoke, they shall pass away.
22 For such as are blessed of Him shall inherit the land; and they that are cursed of Him shall be cut off.
23 It is of YHWH that a man's goings are established; and He delighted in his way.
24 Though he fall, he shall not be utterly cast down; for YHWH upholdeth his hand.
27 Depart from evil, and do good; and dwell for evermore.
28 For YHWH loveth justice, and forsaketh not His saints; they are preserved for ever; but the seed of the wicked shall be cut off.
29 The righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein for ever.
32 The wicked watcheth the righteous, and seeketh to slay him.
33 YHWH will not leave him in his hand, nor suffer him to be condemned when he is judged.
34 Wait for YHWH, and keep His way, and He will exalt thee to inherit the land; when the wicked are cut off, thou shalt see it.
38 But transgressors shall be destroyed together; the future of the wicked shall be cut off.
39 But the salvation of the righteous is of YHWH; He is their stronghold in the time of trouble.
40 And YHWH helpeth them, and delivereth them; He delivereth them from the wicked, and saveth them, because they have taken refuge in Him.

YHWH is the deliverer, and the saviour.
Isaiah 47:4 - Our Redeemer, YHWH of hosts is His name, The Holy One of Israel.

1 Thessalonians 4:17
Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

Alive and remain. This indicates that some are dead and gone already. (The wicked)

It might be that during this period of being caught up in the air, is when the new earth and heaven are created, but not to avoid the tribulation. jmho

TO just quote a scripture without showing how specifically it pertains to what I am claiming that CAIN was the offspring of SATAN,he had no grace from GOD does'nt tell me anything. I am claiming CAIn was not GODS son and you tell me because of this scripture it means all of us,eveyone is that what your saying??????

What I was saying is that YHWH judges no one based upon the sins of their father, even if one were a child of Satan. Satan cannot create, therefore any child Satan were to have is given by YHWH as well.

Genesis 4:7 "If you do well, will you not be accepted? And if you do not do well, sin is couching at the door; its desire is for you, but you must master it."

Cain was given grace after his offering was not accepted. YHWH told him how to be accepted. Next thing he does is murder his brother. Yet still he received a touch of mercy, even after being cast out, he was not to be revenged. The enmity is part of the curse. Yet curses can be mastered.

In the past Torah portion, the blessings and curses were stated at Shechem. Six tribes stood on Mount Gerizim and six stood on Mount Ebal facing the valley of Shechem, which is called the valley of decision. The six on Mount Gerizim were told to stand to bless the people. The six on Mount Ebal were told to "stand over the curses", IOW, to master them, to rise above them. All of us will stand in this valley at some point and have to make decisions.

Judges 5:24 "Most blessed of women be Jael, the wife of Heber the Kenite, of tent-dwelling women most blessed."

Jael was blessed. Messiah Yeshua descended from the lineage of Rahab the harlot of Jericho, and also from Ruth the Moabite.

Caleb, was the son of a Kenizite, yet became the leader of the tribe of Judah.

My main point was that we are not blessed nor condemned by solely by bloodline. We still must make right choices. Curses will hot all of us, some harder than others, but we must rise above them and master them, rather than letting them master us.

Many blessings

If you are so up on thinking for yourself, then why are you cut and pasting second hand nonsense from less than credible sources? Do these people and their extremely creative theology somehow trump the centuries worth of teachings of all of the major religions?

Let me see if I understand this. You want to reject great religions and the teachings of learned scholars, holy men and others - some who've sacrificed all - because they are so-called chruches of "men", yet the unsupportable teachings of a few uncredible inidviduals is what's right. Are they not "men" too? The difference is that they reject their peers, History, solid scholarship. They're a group of men too, just an smaller, idiosyncratic and theologically inbred one.

If you choose to attach to this bunch there is nothing I can do, except to tell you that it's wrong because I care about you.

When people (like this bunch) purport and follow suspect doctrine which is so completely outside of that of any long held solid Christian teaching, this is called heresy. That leader of his own screwball church - created out of whole cloth - "Pastor" Murray is what's called a heretic. He also believes the heresy that the Trinity doesn't exist and that there was no resurrection of the body. He's also been proven publicly as a liar, and won't back up his flawed theology when pressed. He condemns those who question his whackiness "kenites" too.

Yet I'm supposed to reject the teachings of the church of my ancestors that evangelized and civilized the entire planet and trust my salvation to people like this? No thank you.

As Christians, we shouldn't be condemning entire races of people or individuals as "Kenites" (or however you spell it). The only flawed DNA is in those who come up with this stuff, who apparantly believe that they can analyze the DNA those they don't like or disagree with and condemn them to hell. Idiot-boy Murray thinks a phonecall that he doesn't like equates to a DNA analysis proving the caller is lineage of Beezlebub.

I've read the scipture you posted (many times, as have many others, througout many centuries) and fail to see how I'm supposed to glean that children of satan are walking amongst us.

In John 8 if you read further you'll see that Christ knew that the Jews were the bloodline of Abraham. He was condemning them for doing the work of Satan, which they were just as evil ones do today. I honestly don't understand the non-contecxtual jump from Genesis to Romans shows this theory.

There are no previously undiscovered secrets in the Word, and the languages have been gone though thousands of times, by thousands of people, through thousands of years. These moe-moes are about 2,000 years late to the party and they're not privy to any new revelations.

We are God's children not satan's, and all of us have the hope of salvation as Christ himself told us. Evil lies in the hearts of men, not their DNA. Even if this outlandish "kenite" theory were correct, it's not our place as Christians to go around the world trying to identify them.

I just hope you're not going to embrace too much of the anti-Catholicism that resides in some of the circles you're moving through. You should take it upon yourself to learn more about the religion of your birthright before you condemn is so vehemently.

There is a reason why it drastically altered the face of humanity and spawned every Christian denomination in existance, including that of those who apparantly have your ear now.

Well anyway I've said enough. Talk soon.

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