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To: AAABEST

Gen 3:15 God said that He would enmity between Satan's seed (offspring) and Eve's seed (offspring). That enmity produced the first murder!

John 8:39-40
They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.

"Jesus knew who they were"

[40] But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.

John 8:44
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Christ is speaking of the murder and the lies


In the first epistle of John that Cain was "of" (meaning offspring of) that wicked one. Plain and simply, like it or not, believe it or not, Cain was Satan's son, not Adam's.

1 John 3:12
Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.

The word "Cain" in Hebrew is "Kajin", spelled with a "K", and so his children are naturally called Kenites, a transliteration (which is basically a letter to letter conversion) from the Hebrew to English. Look up the word "kenites" in a World Book Encyclopedia Dictionary. They are defined as the children of Cain (Kain-ites).

Matthew 23:29-35
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous, [30] And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets. [31] Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets. [32] Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers. [33] Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell? [34] Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city: [35] That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.

1 Chron. 2:55
And the families of the scribes which dwelt at Jabez; the Tirathites, the Shimeathites, and Suchathites. These are the Kenites that came of Hemath, the father of the house of Rechab.

And by the way, the time of 1 Chron. 2:55 is well after the flood of Noah! Do you know what that means? The sons of Cain made it through the flood! But, how is that possible? It is really quite simple and we will learn the exciting truth of the matter when we get to chapter six.

Genesis 4:15
And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.

Vengeance is mine saith the Lord (Rom. 12:19).

Cain will be used to fulfill the "negative part" of God's plan. Cain was marked by GOD and it was'nt 666 he was MARKED to suffer for the end times and GOD wanted his vengence on him no one else to hAVE IT. THe MArk of the Beast is the great FAMINE in the end not knowing or even understanding the word of GOD and the plan he has including the plan of EVIl which does have a bloodline.

Not only do the "tares" look like the "wheat" (Mat. 13), but you cannot reliably tell them apart by their names either.

[19] And Lamech took unto him two wives: the name of the one was Adah, and the name of the other Zillah.

[20] And Adah bare Jabal: he was the father of such as dwell in tents, and of such as have cattle.

[21] And his brother's name was Jubal: he was the father of all such as handle the harp and organ.

[22] And Zillah, she also bare Tubal-cain, an instructer of every artificer in brass and iron: and the sister of Tubal-cain was Naamah.

Tubal-cain also means producer of weapons

It would be from the religions founded by this one, Cain, that all the nations of the earth would be made "drunk".

Rev. 14:8
And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.


Rev. 17:2
With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.



206 posted on 09/06/2004 11:11:20 AM PDT by repub32
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To: repub32
If you are so up on thinking for yourself, then why are you cut and pasting second hand nonsense from less than credible sources? Do these people and their extremely creative theology somehow trump the centuries worth of teachings of all of the major religions?

Let me see if I understand this. You want to reject great religions and the teachings of learned scholars, holy men and others - some who've sacrificed all - because they are so-called chruches of "men", yet the unsupportable teachings of a few uncredible inidviduals is what's right. Are they not "men" too? The difference is that they reject their peers, History, solid scholarship. They're a group of men too, just an smaller, idiosyncratic and theologically inbred one.

If you choose to attach to this bunch there is nothing I can do, except to tell you that it's wrong because I care about you.

When people (like this bunch) purport and follow suspect doctrine which is so completely outside of that of any long held solid Christian teaching, this is called heresy. That leader of his own screwball church - created out of whole cloth - "Pastor" Murray is what's called a heretic. He also believes the heresy that the Trinity doesn't exist and that there was no resurrection of the body. He's also been proven publicly as a liar, and won't back up his flawed theology when pressed. He condemns those who question his whackiness "kenites" too.

Yet I'm supposed to reject the teachings of the church of my ancestors that evangelized and civilized the entire planet and trust my salvation to people like this? No thank you.

As Christians, we shouldn't be condemning entire races of people or individuals as "Kenites" (or however you spell it). The only flawed DNA is in those who come up with this stuff, who apparantly believe that they can analyze the DNA those they don't like or disagree with and condemn them to hell. Idiot-boy Murray thinks a phonecall that he doesn't like equates to a DNA analysis proving the caller is lineage of Beezlebub.

I've read the scipture you posted (many times, as have many others, througout many centuries) and fail to see how I'm supposed to glean that children of satan are walking amongst us.

In John 8 if you read further you'll see that Christ knew that the Jews were the bloodline of Abraham. He was condemning them for doing the work of Satan, which they were just as evil ones do today. I honestly don't understand the non-contecxtual jump from Genesis to Romans shows this theory.

There are no previously undiscovered secrets in the Word, and the languages have been gone though thousands of times, by thousands of people, through thousands of years. These moe-moes are about 2,000 years late to the party and they're not privy to any new revelations.

We are God's children not satan's, and all of us have the hope of salvation as Christ himself told us. Evil lies in the hearts of men, not their DNA. Even if this outlandish "kenite" theory were correct, it's not our place as Christians to go around the world trying to identify them.

I just hope you're not going to embrace too much of the anti-Catholicism that resides in some of the circles you're moving through. You should take it upon yourself to learn more about the religion of your birthright before you condemn is so vehemently.

There is a reason why it drastically altered the face of humanity and spawned every Christian denomination in existance, including that of those who apparantly have your ear now.

Well anyway I've said enough. Talk soon.

220 posted on 09/06/2004 1:48:58 PM PDT by AAABEST (Lord have mercy on us)
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