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To: repub32

"Eve slept with Satan and she conceived Cain, it was thru the blood line of Adam Jesus was supposed to come but Satan tempted her to have sex with him so he could corrupt the blood line."

Eve means the mother of all things. So good and evil are part of her blood line since she is the FIRST woman.

Please point out the verse that states she slept with satan.


"NO APPLE ever mentioned in the BIBLE nor is the Word "

True the word is fruit.

"Rapture for those that think Christ will rapture them away."

You are right that the word "rapture" is not in the Bible, however the word "rapture" is a translation from:

1Thes.4:17

[17] Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

The word "caught up" and the word "rapture" mean the same.

What this passage is saying is that when the Lord comes His believers will be "caught up" or "raptured" off the earth.

The word "caught up" is also used here:

2Cor.12:2, 4

[2] I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven.

[4] How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.

Rev.12:5

[5] And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.


When the Bible says in

1Thes.4:17

[17] Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

I BELIEVE it!

Why don't you?



205 posted on 09/06/2004 11:05:25 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh
What this passage is saying is that when the Lord comes His believers will be "caught up" or "raptured" off the earth.

Proverbs 10:30 The righteous shall never be removed: but the wicked shall not inhabit the earth.

207 posted on 09/06/2004 11:21:09 AM PDT by ET(end tyranny) (Psalm 146:3 - Put not your trust in Princes, nor in the Son of Man, in whom there is no help.)
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To: nmh

Eve means the mother of all things. So good and evil are part of her blood line since she is the FIRST woman.


First of all EVE was not the first woman how about the clear passage that states GOD created the races on th 6th DAY the 6TH DAY where do you think CAIN got his wife from????????????? SATAn and his angels were coming down having sex with the children of GOD also.

THe passage that states EVE had sex with SATAN ( beguiled=holy seduced)is the very passage that claims she ate the fruit fom the TREE of good and evil, well do some research AND LOOK UP WHAT tree's are symbolic of and you will see it can also mean PEOPLE just like water.


227 posted on 09/06/2004 7:29:44 PM PDT by repub32
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To: nmh

Eve means the mother of all things. So good and evil are part of her blood line since she is the FIRST woman.


First of all EVE was not the first woman how about the clear passage that states GOD created the races on th 6th DAY the 6TH DAY where do you think CAIN got his wife from????????????? SATAn and his angels were coming down having sex with the children of GOD also.

THe passage that states EVE had sex with SATAN ( beguiled=holy seduced)is the very passage that claims she ate the fruit fom the TREE of good and evil, well do some research AND LOOK UP WHAT tree's are symbolic of and you will see it can also mean PEOPLE just like water.

as FAR AS THE RAPTURE theory show me where it states caught up means rapture and do you believe we are going to fly up into the sky in our flesh bodies??????? It will be at the sound of the 7th trump 7 meaning completion that in a twinkleof the eye after antichrist's coming we will be forever changed meaning we will be forever changed into our spiritual bodies to meet with christ.

1 Thes. 4:17
Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

1 Thes. 4:13 (KJV)
But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.

1 Thes. 4:13 (Moffat)
We would like you brothers, to understand about those who are fallen asleep in death; you must not grieve for them, like the rest of men who have no hope.

[14] (KJV) For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

[14] (Moffat) Since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, then it follows that by means of Jesus God will bring with Him those who have fallen asleep.

[15] (KJV) For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

[16] (KJV) For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

check out the Greek word and its prime roots for "rise". It means to stand-up or present. So the "dead in Christ", those who have died believing in the Lord, who are with Him now, will present themselves or stand-up first when Christ returns.
point is:"In the clouds" is an expression that means "in a group". In other words, we are going to gather together as a group with the saints that are coming with Jesus when He returns. Paul uses the same colloquial expression in Hebrews 12:1 when he refers to a great cloud of witnesses, meaning a group of witnesses.

Christ is returning to the Mount of Olives where He will stand. That is where we gather to Him, not in the clouds.


228 posted on 09/06/2004 7:45:34 PM PDT by repub32
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