WHO ARE THE KENITES? islamic facist killers are the blood line of Cain!!!!!

1Chronicles 2:55 1Ch 2:55 And the families of the scribes which dwelt at Jabez; the Tirathites, the Shimeathites, [and] Suchathites. These [are] the Kenites that came of Hemath, the father of the house of Rechab.

This word Kenites in the Hebrew is the Strong's Concordance number 7017 and 7014. Below are the meanings of this word in the Hebrew.

7014-- the same as 7013 ( with a play upon the affinity of 7069); Kajin, the name of the first child, also a place in Pal. and of an Oriental tribe: -Cain, Kenites.

Cain in the Hebrew is 7014 also which further denotes the fact that we are speaking of Cain the first child the father of the kenites.

That is why 7017 says a member of the tribe of Kajin which is Cain. Cain is the father of the kenite tribe or family.

With that being said and clarified, lets now go on further and check out just who is the father of Cain and you will begin to see why he was so evil and could kill / murder his brother Abel. As well as why the kenites / those who claim to be of our brother Judah or a Jew and or not could kill Christ.

Who is Cain's Father? Gen 3:1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

This word serpent in the Hebrew means a hiss of a snake or a whisper or magic spell and enchanter.

This serpent is none other than Satan himself, as noted in 2Corinthians 11:1-3 below where the word serpent in the Greek means satan and these very verses are referring to what happened here in Genesis 3 with Eve. And how satan beguiled or holy seduced and slept with Eve, for the word beguiled in the Greek means to Holy seduce.

2Corinthians 11:1-3 2Cr 11:1 Would to God ye could bear with me a little in [my] folly: and indeed bear with me. 2Cr 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present [you as] a chaste virgin to Christ. 2Cr 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

Even Paul taught about what happened between Eve and satan. He knew she was seduced by satan.

Satan is asking Eve [for snakes cannot talk] hath God said ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? Bear in mind trees in the bible are symbolic of people.

In this garden we had trees good for food, as well as the tree of life [ which is Christ] and also the the tree of knowledge of good and evil [satan], as noted in Genesis 2:9.

Satan is going to tempt Eve to disobey God, just as he will us today if we do not stay sharp in God's word. Satan is a charmer who will attempt to charm you with lies that sound so right, yet they do not align with God's word.

Gen 3:2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:

Gen 3:3 But of the fruit of the tree which [is] in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

This is speaking of satan / the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, as noted in Genesis 2:16-17. Only satan could teach one evil ways. And satan is very wise and knows God's word better than most christians. only problem is he twist God's word to mislead people, as he attempted to do to Christ in Matthew 4. Even satan knows there is but one God, as noted in James 2:19 and trys to keep people uneducated about that one true God.

This word touch in the Hebrew means to lay the hand upon (for any purpose; euphem., to lie with a woman). Listening to satan's lies kills one spiritually to understanding the true word of God. We will see further on in this chapter that Eve did not eat an apple, but rather slept with satan and from that came Cain. This is why Cain is not mentioned in Adam's geneology in Genesis 5. Abel isn't mentioned for he was murdered and did not live long enough to produce an offspring. Cain has his own geneology in Genesis 4:16-24.

Here we have satan tempting and trying to charm Eve to disobey God's word telling her you won't die like God said you would. This is satan's MO [ method of operation]. He is a charmer and trys to say it is o.k. if we twist God's word a little here and a little there so we can do as we like. Watch out. Do not be fooled by satan and only believe God's word.

Gen 3:5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

Satan is lying here. For to listen to satan and his lies, closes ones eyes to the truth of God's word and makes one listen to evil instead of God and that which is good.

Gen 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree [was] good for food, and that it [was] pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make [one] wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

Eve allowed satan to snow her under with lies and she found him to be one handsome dude. She not only listened to satan's lies, but slept with him also as you'll see in a few more verses for their is a conception spoken of in a few more verses. He not only deceived Eve, but slept with Adam also [in my opinion]. For there is no mention of Adam knowing [sleeping with] Eve until Genesis 4:1, which took place AFTER she slept with satan and conceived Cain. Eve gave birth to twins and they had different fathers. This still today is medically possible and has happened. Lets take a closer look at Genesis 4:1-2.

Gen4:1 AND Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.

When Eve gave birth she had twins. Cain was born first from Eve's first conception with satan. Yes she did get a child from the LORD, for all babies are a gift from God, but this does not change the fact that Cain was satan's son, as we will further document in this study.

Gen 4:2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.

Again in the Hebrew means she continued in labour. So here we see that Cain and Abel were twins with different fathers. That is why Cain was so evil and could kill his own brother.

It was not eating an apple that made God angry [no apple even mentioned here], but Adam and Eve listening to satan's lies sleeping with satan. Satan through this was trying to corrupt the seedline in which Christ would come through to attempt to disrupt God's overall plan of salvation and Christ being born.

Gen 3:7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they [were] naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.

They were not trying to cover their mouth, but their private parts to attempt to cover up what they had done.

Gen 3:8 And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.

Gen 3:10 And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I [was] naked; and I hid myself.

Adam confessed to knowing he was naked and that he was afraid of God for he had partook of the tree God told them not to touch.

Gen 3:11 And he said, Who told thee that thou [wast] naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?

God is coming down on Adam for being disobedient to Him and listening to satan and allowing satan to deceive them. Just as today God does not like it when we allow satan to mislead us with false doctrine, that causes us to whore around with traditions of men instead of God's word.

Gen 3:12 And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest [to be] with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.

Here we have Adam explaining why he slept with satan and was seduced by him. Adam here saying Eve talked me into it. LOL Trying to place all the blame on Eve. If someone misleads us, it is because WE ALLOW IT to happen. Still Adam should not have fallen for it. Never go with the majority and ALWAYS study God's word and think for yourself.

Gen 3:13 And the LORD God said unto the woman, What [is] this [that] thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.

Here we have Eve explaining to God that satan had seduced her, which is what beguiled means. This is also what Paul was warning us of in 2Corinthians 11:1-3.

Gen 3:14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou [art] cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

Here we have God coming down on satan for seducing Eve. This just means satan is lower than a snakes belly. He is cursed and never going to amount to anything for he will ultimately be cast into the lake of fire.

Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

Seed here means child in the Hebrew. We know it is not physical seed like to plant in a garden, for seeds in a garden do not have enmity towards one another but flesh children do. This is why Cain hated and killed Abel. He was satan's seed / child. Abel was Eve and Adam's child. Also this refers to the fact that Christ would come through the lineage of Adam and Eve down the line and that satan through Cain's offspring the Kenites would bruise Christ heel on the cross and kill him. And in the end of this final generation Christ will throw satan into the lake of fire and use His elect to bruise satan's head by teaching God's word / truth to refute satan's lies.

Gen 3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire [shall be] to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

Here we have conception mentioned. God is going to allow her to be pregnant by this evil one. Remember she has yet to sleep with Adam.

St.John 8:33-47 Jhn 8:31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;

This word continue in the Greek means to abide or dwell in. Christ is telling those of Judah as well as us today who do believe in Him and abide in His word, that they are His disciples indeed. However, there are the Kenites who claim to be of Judah or Jews, but are not but are of satan, as noted in Revelation 2:9 to the church of Smyrna below:

Rev 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Those who seek God's word and follow Christ the Living Word, shall know the truth and shall be free from deception and lies that put some in bondage.

Jhn 8:33 They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?

Here we have the ones who claim to be of Judah the Kenites answering Christ back. They are in bondage all right to satan. Just as man today by false teaching have been put in bondage and do not realize it and think they are in good standing with God.

Jhn 8:34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.

Jhn 8:35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: [but] the Son abideth ever.

Christ is the Living Word and it is forever and never changes, as noted in Hebrews 13:8.

Jhn 8:37 I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.

I feel this should be translated I know YE SAY ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.

For the next few verses from Christ will make that clear, for Christ himself is about to tell us these are not of God, but of satan.

These are Kenites sons of Cain the first murderer. Looks like murder is a family trait doesn't it?

Jhn 8:38 I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father.

Notice the capitial F in Father for God and the small f in the second father denoting not God, but satan. Christ is saying your traits are that of satan your father.

Notice here that these kenites sons of Cain off spring of Satan's son, are trying to convince Christ himself they are of God. Don't think if they tried this with Christ himself, that they want go around to this day claiming to be Jews or christians of God and do satan's work. This is their MO [method of operation].

Jhn 8:39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.

By their fruits ye shall know them. If they do not the works of God and those God sent that taught God's word, then they are not of God. Christ wasn't stupid and did not fall for their lies. And neither should we today. Not all false teachers are Kenites, but some false teachers have merely been deceived by the Kenites teaching and think it is God's word, so therefore they continue to help spread the lies.

Jhn 8:40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.

Christ knew they wanted to murder Him. They could lie all they wanted to, but Christ could read their mind. Abraham nor any of the children of God would have sought to kill Christ. Only someone of satan's offspring would want to do such a thing.

Jhn 8:41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, [even] God.

Here we have Christ for the 2nd time confronting them telling them exactly who they are. Just as we today should study God's word, and know what does and does not align with God's word, whereby noone can mislead us.

Jhn 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.

Again Christ calling a spade a spade. If they loved God they would have also loved His only begotten Son. They did not love Christ but wanted to murder Him.

Jhn 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? [even] because ye cannot hear my word.

This word hear in the Greek means to hear God's word with understanding. They could not understand Christ speech/ word, because they were not of God, as Christ himself is about to tell us in the next verse.

Jhn 8:44 Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Here Christ tells them for the 3rd time for emphasis that they ARE NOT of God, but are of their father satan in the sense that Cain's father was Satan. He/ Cain was the first murderer in the beginning. Satan and his son Cain and Cain's offspring the Kenites are liars, as stated here by Christ the Living Word Himself.

Jhn 8:46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?

Christ commited no sin. These were trying to find a reason to kill Him to make themselves look squeaky clean and innocent. See how subtil and cunning satan and his offspring are. They lie and swear it is the truth and twist God's words. They kill many spiritually today by teachings lies instead of God's word. This is why one should always check ALL men out in God's word and allow noone to mislead you. There are still Kenites out there and then there are those who teach falsely who have themselves been mislead by the Kenlies and do not realize it.

Jhn 8:47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear [them] not, because ye are not of God.

There for the fourth time Christ tells them and us today they are not of God. They are murderers. Offspring of the devil and sons of Cain the first murderer.

1John 3:11-12 1Jo 3:11 For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.

1Jo 3:12 Not as Cain, [who] was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.

This verse 12 here states specifically that Cain was of that wicked one which is none other than satan. This is why Cain could murder Abel. For he was the son that wicked one and was wicked also. The wicked one is satan.

Revelation 2:8-9 Rev 2:8 And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive:

Rev 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and [I know] the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but [are] the synagogue of Satan.

Here Christ tells us that there are some / Kenites who claim to be of Judah or Jews, and are not, but are of Satan and are Satan's offspring which would be the sons of Cain / Kenites, for Cain was satan's son and the Kenites are the offspring of Cain. This will be further documented in the verses below that cover the parable of the tares.

Revelation 3:9 Rev 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

Here again a 2nd witness from Christ that indeed there are some who claim to be Jews and are not but are of satan.

Last but not least Christ also warned us of these offspring of satan in the parable of the tares, as noted in Matthew 13:24-30 and Matthew 13:36-43.

Parable Of The Tares Mat 13:24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:

#4690. Sperma; something sown, seed (including the male "sperm"); by implied offspring; specifically a remnant (fig. as if kept over for planting): issue, seed.

We are talking about the sperm / seed planted in the garden with Eve and satan as you will see when we finish this parable of the tares.

Tares are symbolic of the Kenites, who claim to be Jews or children of God and are not but are of satan.

Mat 13:25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.

2190. ekh-thros; (to hate); hateful (pass. odious, or act hostile); usually as a noun, an adversary (especially Satan):- enemy, foe. Many today are spiritually asleep to the true word of God and the enemy / satan works overtime pumping man's traditions into them and they don't even realize it for they have been blinded and lulled off to sleep by man's traditions.

Satan through sleeping with Eve sowed the evil children / tares / Kenites among the children of God. This would have never happened, had Eve listened to God and did not touch/ sleep with the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, which was none other than satan himself.

Mat 13:26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.

These tares looked alot like wheat till full grown. We are to test the fruit or what man teaches to see if it aligns with God's word or not. If it does not then it is not of God. Many people look christianly and say they are christians, but are they really? Are they teaching what aligns with God's word? By their fruits ye shall know them, as noted in Matthew 7:15-20. Especially verse 20.

Mat 13:27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?

Symbolic of God's children asking God didn't He sow only good seed or children? And why are there tares / Kenites then? See those who are truly children of God and know God's word, will be able to recognize and discern between God's word and man's and those who are called of God to teach and those who are not. They also can discern the ways of a Kenite and when one is furthering satan's doctrine rather than God's word.

Mat 13:28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?

God is telling us here that satan the enemy hath done this. The children of God asking do you want us to get rid of them?

Mat 13:29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.

God said NO do not get rid of the tares / Kenites lest you uproot the children of God also. You see many of God's children are so intertwined in the Kenites false doctrine that it is so hard to tell who is a GENUINE Kenite or offspring of satan and who is just an innocent child of God that has gotten themselves caught up in man's traditions. Even a Kenite can be converted, if they turn to God and leave their father satan's lies.

This is why we are to share God's word and let God through His word open the eyes of His children to false teachings and gently bring them back to Father's word and teach them to study for themselves and check ALL men out in God's word. This is how one breaks the hold of the Kenites teaching. Not by attacking the Kenites and stooping to their level.

Mat 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

Harvest time is when Christ returns AFTER the antichrist reign where satan plays or pretends He is Christ come to rapture you away. As further documented in this study The Truth About The Rapture Theory.

Those who flock to the antichrist thinking they are flying out of here will be gathered with the tares in danger of hell fire, if they do not open their eyes to the true God during the millenium reign spoken of in Revelation 20. God is against the rapture theory or fly away teaching, as noted in Ezekiel 13:20.

Explanation Of The Parable Of The Tares Mat 13:36 Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.

Christ speaking only to His disciples here. The majority do not always hear God's word. Only those God feels can handle it at that time. Or as most call them God's elect

Mat 13:37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;

Mat 13:38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked [one];

Here we have it again. The tares are the children of the wicked one, just as Cain was, because they are Cain's offspring which are known as the Kenites.

Mat 13:39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.

Christ tells us point blank the enemy is the devil, not a snake or serpent. This happened when Eve slept with satan and conceived Cain the evil one who murdered Abel.

Mat 13:40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.

God is going to cast all the tares and those who follow the tares into the lake of fire, IF they do not get their act together by the end of the millenium reign mentioned in Revelation 20.

Mat 13:41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;

Mat 13:42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

This will happen on judgment day. So sad that some would choose to follow the kenite or satanic ways that will lead them to hell.

Mat 13:43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

Then shall the righteous have eternal life forever with God. Not all have ears to hear. Do you? Can you hear what Father is telling you in this parable? Be sharp and be wiser than satan for he is out to mislead and deceive and spiritually impregnate you with his lies, just as he physically impregnated Eve to try and prevent the Christ child from eventually being born. Today satan uses lies to try and prevent God's children from knowing the true Christ the Living Word of God.

You only hear what you want to hear and that is it as usual. Whether you believe in Pastor murray or not Scripture is scripture there is no way around it. You keep calling him a fruad and you do nothing to prove it, prove it to me in scripture if he is such a fruad???????? but when I show you obvious scripture like I did that It is spoken by many about SATANs seducing eve (Beguiled-to be Holy seduced) you respond with this!!!!!! not an interpretation of the scriptures to what you believe they are saying, you are the same guy who said KENITEs is never mentioned in the bible and I proved that wrong but still you deny it, how????????? You continously talk about denomination's and this and that which means nothng to me because it is simple interpretation is what CHrist wanted us to know no matter what Denomination you call yourself.

you said:"He also believes the heresy that the Trinity doesn't exist and that there was no resurrection of the body"
and you are absolutely incorrect I heard himself speak about it which I have told you over and over but of course you do not hear it. I do not attach myself to any group I hear I listen and then I check it out for myself. THe problem with you is you think I cant think for myself and mimic the words of others like the one closest to us both and you are dead wrong dead wrong I am doing alot of research on my own and this all seems pretty obvious. You have yet to respond to one scripture to one question alls you say is Im wrong your right and all the great scholars of the world is who I am supposed to listen to basically the Catholic teahing's. Because ppl. call themselves scholars does not make it so. I mean the Pharisee's thought they were right and holy and they were not. CHrist himself spoke about the many that will come in his name and lead the majority to their spiritual death( by decieving and twistng the word of GOD) so if the masses believe what you believe and 2/3 of the world at the end perish does'nt it make you think that well maybe then it is the masses that are wrong. AS far as IM concerned I dont even need to enter a church to worship the word of GOD so are you saying the Hebrew teacher I learn fom weekly is a fruad because he does'nt drape himself in Catholic cloth????????? and By the way Pastor Murray teaches line by line verse by verse and has 30 years teaching the word of GOD. THis notion that you must be ordained to teach from the church is nonsense and non scriptural and that not even a woman is supposed to teach if Im wrong show me in scripture, this sounds more like Islam to me?????????which no one on this board has yet to do. Sorry but we are all not GODS children. SO the great dictators of the world the ones who hold there countries down and keep their people in slavery are you telling me PPL. like ARAFAT,SADDAM, Hitler etc etc etc were children of GOD are you kidding me?????????

you said:I've read the scipture you posted (many times, as have many others, througout many centuries) and fail to see how I'm supposed to glean that children of satan are walking amongst us.

So then interpret them you have yet to do it not one, you say you study in hebrew's and greeks but yet to show me anything??????????

THe problem I see is that you seem to take all of what you read literally and dont ever see the symbolic meaning of anything. I fone would do a simple search of the languages and how thy are being used you will see that not all those tree's were TREE'S Tree's and water are symbolic of PEOPLE not always but alot. THE GREAT TREE OF LEBANon is SATAN. WHY WAS CAIN's offering not excepted by GOD????????? WHy is CAIn never mentioned in ADAM's geneaology????????? WHy where ABEL and CAIN not twins????????????

You said:As Christians, we shouldn't be condemning entire races of people or individuals as "Kenites" (or however you spell it)

of course not it is not up to us to judge but SATAN also had a plan. So tell me WHAT was the purpose of SATAN if we are all GOD's children?????????? was he not the first angelic beautiful angel that was supposed to be sitting at the right hand of GOD????????? until he decided to take his free will and use it for his own will. WHat was SATAN's purpose was he not a spiritual force are you telling me he did'nt have angels and had no plan to do evil and lead the sheep from the flock ??????????? THe only reason the catholic church has helped spawn all these other religions is because they dont teach people anything and has allowed itself to become Politcally correct and to go against the very WORD it claims to uphold, Catholic churches are in quite alot of trouble these days. WHy is it that all these so called scholars and teachers have allowed The church to fall away from WHAT the WORD of GOD teaches ex: allowing HOMOsexuals to corrupt the very house of GOD. THe catholic church and all those running it are nothing more then the very PHarisee's that stood before CHRIST claiming they were the righteous, IMO.

You said:Yet I'm supposed to reject the teachings of the church of my ancestors that evangelized and civilized the entire planet and trust my salvation to people like this? No thank you.

They have not civilized the whole planet look what is going on in the world around you especially in the MIDDLE EAST. I have done nothing but show you scripture but you give me no interpretation I have asked you many simple Questions like WHY is CAIN never mentioned in ADAM's geanology???????? and you have'nt answered not one. I sent you like 6 scriptures but you have yet to dispute one in your own interpretation of. You keep calling only one of my sources and teachers a fruad and when I send you the site disputing those lie's you call them crazy also!!!!!!!!!! but the ppl. you are listening to perpetuating these lies are RIGHT?????????????SO if we are all GODS children are you telling me no one will perish in the END????????????????and that it is'nt SATAN and his plan and his children that have led this country so astray,perverse,socially corrupted are you telling me That this is all GODS doing, GOD is not the author of Confusion SATAN is.

Eve means the mother of all things. So good and evil are part of her blood line since she is the FIRST woman.

First of all EVE was not the first woman how about the clear passage that states GOD created the races on th 6th DAY the 6TH DAY where do you think CAIN got his wife from????????????? SATAn and his angels were coming down having sex with the children of GOD also.

THe passage that states EVE had sex with SATAN ( beguiled=holy seduced)is the very passage that claims she ate the fruit fom the TREE of good and evil, well do some research AND LOOK UP WHAT tree's are symbolic of and you will see it can also mean PEOPLE just like water.

as FAR AS THE RAPTURE theory show me where it states caught up means rapture and do you believe we are going to fly up into the sky in our flesh bodies??????? It will be at the sound of the 7th trump 7 meaning completion that in a twinkleof the eye after antichrist's coming we will be forever changed meaning we will be forever changed into our spiritual bodies to meet with christ.

1 Thes. 4:17
Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

1 Thes. 4:13 (KJV)
But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.

1 Thes. 4:13 (Moffat)
We would like you brothers, to understand about those who are fallen asleep in death; you must not grieve for them, like the rest of men who have no hope.

[14] (KJV) For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

[14] (Moffat) Since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, then it follows that by means of Jesus God will bring with Him those who have fallen asleep.

[15] (KJV) For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

[16] (KJV) For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

check out the Greek word and its prime roots for "rise". It means to stand-up or present. So the "dead in Christ", those who have died believing in the Lord, who are with Him now, will present themselves or stand-up first when Christ returns.
point is:"In the clouds" is an expression that means "in a group". In other words, we are going to gather together as a group with the saints that are coming with Jesus when He returns. Paul uses the same colloquial expression in Hebrews 12:1 when he refers to a great cloud of witnesses, meaning a group of witnesses.

Christ is returning to the Mount of Olives where He will stand. That is where we gather to Him, not in the clouds.

The "Kenites" were nothing but a benign tribe in scripture who were also referred to as the Midianites. They at one point showed great charity to Israel, some were good friends of biblical figures.

In the bible I use for most reference(Douhay-Rheims) they're referred to as "Cinites", so I apologize if I was incorrect.

Jethro - Moses' father in-law - was a Cinite or "Kenite". Are we supposed to believe that through some tortured nonsense interpretations that all of Moses' children had this demon seed too? In the title of this post you're attributing this demon seed to the Ishmaelites, who were the children of Haggar and Abram.

So according to these screwy teachers who have your ear, all of Moses' decendents have the "demon seed" along with all of the decendents of Abram and Agar?

This is nothing but theologically corrupt baloney, coming from a bunch of buffoons. It doesn't even make any sense. I'd rather read something from the unibomber.

Again, there is nothing on this earth that wasn't created by God the almighty. The lesson for all of us is that we should ignore the whisperings of satan, not go around with delusions that his children are walking amongst us carrying his literal DNA.

You can be as angry with me as you like but I won't return it, and I won't think any less of you if you consider me like a Pharisee. Although I was horrified when I read this, I'm over it now.

We will not be discussing this goofy topic any longer.

"Eve means the mother of all things. So good and evil are part of her blood line since she is the FIRST woman."

Eve means the mother of all things. God did NOT create evil. Like Adam, Eve was given a choice also - follow God and what her husband told her or else. Eve chose to disobey and so did Adam. God did not create evil. Mankind did.

Gen. 3:20

[20] And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.

"First of all EVE was not the first woman how about the clear passage that states GOD created the races on th 6th DAY the 6TH DAY where do you think CAIN got his wife from????????????? SATAn and his angels were coming down having sex with the children of GOD also."

Again what you say is NOT Biblical.

Gen. 2:21-23

21] And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;

[22] And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.

[23] And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.

Clearly He did not "create the races on the sixth day". He created Adam and then Eve.

Cain married a sister. It wasn't until Lev 18:6-18 that the Lord made rules for marriages and no longer allowed incest.

Leviticus 18:6-17

6 None of you shall approach to any that is near of kin to him, to uncover their nakedness: I am the LORD.

7 The nakedness of thy father, or the nakedness of thy mother, shalt thou not uncover: she is thy mother; thou shalt not uncover her nakedness.

8 The nakedness of thy father's wife shalt thou not uncover: it is thy father's nakedness.

9 The nakedness of thy sister, the daughter of thy father, or daughter of thy mother, whether she be born at home, or born abroad, even their nakedness thou shalt not uncover.

10 The nakedness of thy son's daughter, or of thy daughter's daughter, even their nakedness thou shalt not uncover: for theirs is thine own nakedness.

11 The nakedness of thy father's wife's daughter, begotten of thy father, she is thy sister, thou shalt not uncover her nakedness.

12 Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy father's sister: she is thy father's near kinswoman.

13 Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy mother's sister: for she is thy mother's near kinswoman.

14 Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy father's brother, thou shalt not approach to his wife: she is thine aunt.

15 Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy daughter in law: she is thy son's wife; thou shalt not uncover her nakedness.

16 Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy brother's wife: it is thy brother's nakedness.

17 Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of a woman and her daughter, neither shalt thou take her son's daughter, or her daughter's daughter, to uncover her nakedness; for they are her near kinswomen: it is wickedness.

18 Neither shalt thou take a wife to her sister, to vex her, to uncover her nakedness, beside the other in her life time.

I notice you do not use verses since what you say is not Biblically correct.

"THe passage that states EVE had sex with SATAN ( beguiled=holy seduced)is the very passage that claims she ate the fruit fom the TREE of good and evil, well do some research AND LOOK UP WHAT tree's are symbolic of and you will see it can also mean PEOPLE just like water. "

Gen. 3:13

13 And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.

"Beguiled" means deceived. Beguiled does NOT mean sex or having sex with someone. BTW the tree in this passage means just that - a "tree". The word tree can have other meanings such as family tree however that is NOT what is meant here. Fruit grows on a tree. Water doesn't mean people either.

"as FAR AS THE RAPTURE theory show me where it states caught up means rapture and do you believe we are going to fly up into the sky in our flesh bodies??????? It will be at the sound of the 7th trump 7 meaning completion that in a twinkleof the eye after antichrist's coming we will be forever changed meaning we will be forever changed into our spiritual bodies to meet with christ. "

I don't argue with God. HE created all we see and don't see. If you want ot put limits on Him because you can not imagine this, that is your prerogative. I stand by what God states:

1 Thessalonians 4:17

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

The dead will rise first and then the living. Yes, CHrist will come in the twinkling of an eye and seven means perfect completion however there is NO mention of any trumpet here.

1 Thes. 4:13 (KJV)

But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.

No "soul sleep" isn't what you think.

To clarify these verseS should help:

2 Corinthians 5:6

6 Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:

2 Corinthians 5:8

8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.

It's very clear. We are not "sleeping". To be absent from the body, dead, is to be present with the Lord - IF you are a believer.

"Christ is returning to the Mount of Olives where He will stand. That is where we gather to Him, not in the clouds."

We will meet up with Him in the clouds just as the Bible states:

1 Thessalonians 4:17

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

It is very clear. We will be caught UP IN THE CLOUDS to meet the Lord and be with Him forever - that is believers.

I never understand why mortals want to put limits on God and use their finite knowledge as His yardstick. The Bible is very clear in what we have discussed here.

In any event, I have corrected with verses from the Bible where you have erred. Believe it or not!

LOL, ok now lets back up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you said ADAM lived 800 years and you know that he had a SON eventually named CAIN you have yet to show me CAIn listed in ADAMs geanology. DO'nt show me the actual Scripture that I am completly disputing and the point I am disputing that CAIN was ADAM's son and that he was SATAN's son instead. You some how think because it says ADAM knew his wife and she bare CAIN some how you have intrepreted that to mean ADAM had sex with EVE and SATAN Beguiled(morally seduced) her first she gave birth to CAIN did'nt she??????????? hmmmmm anything click yet, you just dont knw the languages at all. WHy was ABEL a keeper of the sheep and who were the sheep??????????????? WHy when CAIN was born was he called the tiller of the GROUND????????? let me tell you GEN: 3 14 was it not here that GOD Told SATAN that upon thy belly shalt though go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life, The ground was cursed before was ever BORN GOD just said so to his FATHER so when CAIN was Born was he not the tiller of the ground before he committed any sin???????????? learn your languages and learn symbolic meaning of things LIke again I'll say it TREE's and water. SO for those that dont believe SATAN had children expalin to me the PArable of the Sower Matthew: 13 38 clearly defines who the TARES are 37He answered, "The one who sowed the good seed is the Son of Man. 38The field is the world, and the good seed stands for the sons of the kingdom. The weeds are the sons of the evil one, 39and the enemy who sows them is the devil. The harvest is the end of the age, and the harvesters are angels.
40"As the weeds are pulled up and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of the age. 41The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. 42They will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. 43Then the righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears, let him hear.

You some how think because it says ADAM knew his wife and she bare CAIN some how you have intrepreted that to mean ADAM had sex with EVE and SATAN Beguiled(morally seduced) her first she gave birth to CAIN did'nt she???????????

Have you ever heard of a thing called:

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Is that enough friggin' question marks for ya?

I'm sorry I don't buy your trumped up thesis and neither does 99% of anybody else. Mormons or JW's would even make such an outlandish claim.

I know Atheist who know more than you!

You're making an absolutely ignoramous conjecture, one that in NO way can be backed up with factual content.

You can believe whatever you want, but the word never suggest Eve had sex with satan or bore his offspring, it's totally baseless within scripture! You can't even argue your own point coherently or factually.

I've got to admitt, I thought I'd heard it all til this heresy came along.

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