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Roman Catholics issue warning to Eames
Church of England Newspaper ^ | 1 July 2004 | staff writers

Posted on 07/01/2004 9:32:22 AM PDT by ahadams2

Roman Catholics issue warning to Eames

Number: 5724 Date: July 1,

A right of appeal to the Archbishop of Canterbury may be needed to resolve disputes in the Anglican Communion, argue a group of Roman Catholic and Anglican leaders in a submission to the Lambeth Commission led by Archbishop Robin Eames.

The submission by a sub-commission of the Inter Anglican and Roman Catholic Commission on Unity and Mission, claims that the crisis represented by the consecration of a practising homosexual bishop in the United States could seriously damage relationships between the two Churches.

They argue that the current situation suggests the need to strengthen the role of Archbishop of Canterbury and the ‘focal role of the Primates within provinces.’

“These would be important developments during this interim period as we continue to work towards full visible unity between the Anglican Communion and the Catholic Church.”

The sub-commission said that despite disagreements Anglicans and Roman Catholics derived from scripture and tradition the same controlling vision of the nature of humanity and shared the same fundamental moral values. The New Hampshire consecration, they said, had prompted them to question whether the Churches of the Anglican Communion can sustain the same teaching in practice.

In the talk of impaired and broken communion that had arisen from the crisis, they questioned whether the damage of the consecration could be “acceptable to those who profess belief in one holy, catholic and apostolic church.”

Furthermore, they contend that the consecration has weakened “constitutive elements of communion – the unity of the episcopate, the authority of scripture and its interplay with tradition and the holding of ‘the same basic moral values’.”

They ask: “How can a bishop whose ordination made him a cause of controversy… represent the local community in the councils of the Church? How can he mediate the unity of the universal Church to his diocese when he is at odds with large segments of the universal church, the latter arguing that he has departed from the moral teaching of the apostolic faith?”

The hard-hitting submission suggests that the crisis damages the communion of the diocese of New Hampshire with all the Churches in the Anglican Communion.

A statement from last week’s meeting of the Lambeth Commission simply called its talks ‘constructive’. The leadership of the Episcopal Church in the USA and the leadership of the Anglican Communion network both made submissions to the Commission.

But the most hard-hitting one of all by Archbishop Drexel Gomez forcefully argued that the New Hampshire consecration was invalid.

In comments reported in a new book on the homosexuality debate in the Anglican Communion by Guardian reporter Stephen Bates, the Archbishop of Canterbury suggested that once the dust had settled outside mediation might be necessary to reconcile the Anglican Communion.


TOPICS: Activism; Apologetics; Catholic; Current Events; Mainline Protestant; Ministry/Outreach; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: anglican; apostasy; arcic; bishop; catholic; communion; conservative; heresy; homosexual; lambeth; response; roman

1 posted on 07/01/2004 9:32:23 AM PDT by ahadams2
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To: ahadams2; sionnsar; Grampa Dave; AnAmericanMother; N. Theknow; Ray'sBeth; hellinahandcart; ...

Ping.


2 posted on 07/01/2004 9:32:56 AM PDT by ahadams2 (http://trad-anglican.faithweb.com is the url for the Anglican Freeper Resource Page)
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"In comments reported in a new book on the homosexuality debate in the Anglican Communion by Guardian reporter Stephen Bates, the Archbishop of Canterbury suggested that once the dust had settled *outside mediation* might be necessary to reconcile the Anglican Communion."

"Outside Mediation"?? From where -- by whom? On what basis? This is an entirely new idea in this whole mess. I can't see the C of E or ECUSA holding still for something like that. Who would have the clout to make it stick?

Really, we are beyond mediation. IMHO anything that begins with the syllables, "media" at this point is counterproductive. ;-)

What had been perceived as some kind of middle is now a great smoking nuclear crater. Leave the dead to bury their own dead, and let's get on with the mission of spreading the real actual life-giving Gospel to those who are willing to hear it.


3 posted on 07/01/2004 9:55:28 AM PDT by Lumen Christie (Praise be to Jesus Christ: THE Way, THE Truth, THE Life)
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"Outside Mediation"?? From where -- by whom? On what basis? This is an entirely new idea in this whole mess. I can't see the C of E or ECUSA holding still for something like that. Who would have the clout to make it stick?

It's a pretty stunning comment, actually: Williams seems to be saying that the Anglican Communion cannot fix itself.

He's wrong, but it tells us a lot more about Williams than perhaps he would want us to know. There are two important aspects to this.

First, Williams knows that there is a way to fix it -- a return to orthodoxy and discipline (See, e.g., Communion and Discipline, by the Anglican Communion Institute). But Williams clearly doesn't want to do that.

Second, Williams' own unwillingness to consider an orthodox response is matched by the rest of the revisionist group. They simply refuse to turn back from the path they're on.

What Williams would presumably be looking for in a mediator is a body that somehow manages to patch up the differences between orthodoxy and revisionism -- and thus to give the go-ahead for the continuation of the revisionist agenda.

Calls for orthodoxy from the Roman Catholics, various Orthodox churches, and even from the vast majority of Primates in his own Communion, have apparently made no impression on Williams, whose personal preferences tend to the revisionist side.

Which all boils down to this: the crisis we face is one of pridefulness, nothing more or less.

5 posted on 07/01/2004 10:27:26 AM PDT by r9etb
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remember rowan the fuzzy is getting desperate: if he gives in to his friends/supporters, the rest of the Anglican Communion walks. If he keeps the Anglican Communion together, he will do so at the expense of his supporters...I expect the closer we get to the end of September, the less coherent he'll become.


6 posted on 07/01/2004 4:47:14 PM PDT by ahadams2 (http://trad-anglican.faithweb.com is the url for the Anglican Freeper Resource Page)
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