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Non-Christian Franciscans!? (Scary Incident While Waiting to Enter Rotunda)
myself | 6/10/2004 | Pyro7480

Posted on 06/10/2004 8:46:27 AM PDT by Pyro7480

In the early morning hours today, 10 June, I was waiting in line with thousands of other mourners on the National Mall in Washington, DC to enter the Capitol Rotunda to pay our respects to our beloved former President, Ronald Reagan. As I entered the queue, I saw two women dressed in Franciscan habits, or at least what I thought were Franciscan habits. As the passed by me in the other direction, I asked to join them in their part of the line. I was wearing a crucifix around my neck which I showed to them. I asked them what religious congregation they were members of. They initial said Third Order Franciscans. I thought it was a bit odd that Third Order Franciscans were wearing habits (they did so in the past, but not often recently). They said they were from Switzerland, and they talked with thick German Swiss accents. The two of them had short hair (to be blunt, butch). One of them called herself "Reverend" and I later noticed that she had a "Roman" collar on.

As I talked to them, and as a UPI correspondent interviewed them for a story she was doing about the people lining upm I gathered that they weren't Catholic at all. They explained that they were from a group called "The Brotherhood of Humanity," and that they were in at least 60 countries worldwide. Their national HQ is in the DC area. After the one "nun" gave her a card that had their "moral compass" on it, I asked for a copy for myself. Since it was past midnight, I had a hard time reading it at first. I saw Matthew 5:16 on the top of the card, and a quote from Handhi a the bottom. But as we past in area lit by flood lamps, I read the "fine print" on the card. It stated that that the card was printed by:
"The Brotherhood of Humanity: The Third Order Franciscan World Mission Endeavour of The Universal Church - The Church for a new World Order. It also gave their mailing address and e-mail address for the organization.

After hearing all of this, I pretty much stopped talking to them. Later, two individuals who were behind me came up to them, with the same thought as I had at first about them. One of them, a woman in her late twenties, ended up talking to them for quite some time as we moved closer to the Capitol. She was/is in the Legion of Mary, and she was on fire! She tried hard to evangelize them. I assisted her at a few points. This "Brotherhood," apparently, don't believe in the Holy Trinity. Instead, they believe in a dualistic "God" who is both Father and Mother. She ended up giving one of them her Miraculous Medal. As the two "nuns" progressed ahead of us in the line, I ended up talking to the young woman for the rest of the time we were there.

In a sleep-deprived state today, I did a Google search for this organization. All I could find in my search so far is the following link: The World Foundation for Natural Science

In this modernistic age, there are definitely some scary manifestations of the peversion of Christian religion. This is one of them.


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Ecumenism; General Discusssion; Ministry/Outreach; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: catholic; catholiclist; franciscan; modernism; newworldorder
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To: AskStPhilomena

I don't know. There were a lot of people who came up to them when they saw the way they were dressed. I think it was an evil attempt to draw more people away from the Catholic faith, whether it was intentional or not (they very well could be among the brainwashed).


21 posted on 06/10/2004 9:55:41 AM PDT by Pyro7480 (Sub tuum praesidium confugimus, sancta Dei Genitrix.... sed a periculis cunctis libera nos semper...)
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To: AskStPhilomena

I have to second Pyro. Believe me, my pastor is a heretic, but he would steer clear from them vecause they don't *claim* to be Catholic. But I also agree that their presentation of themselves certainly seems meant to confuse. They were followers of St. Francis about as much as John Kerry was a follower of Ronald Reagen.


22 posted on 06/10/2004 10:13:25 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Pyro7480

Thanks for reporting on this. Great to hear of the Legion of Mary in action.

-to kindle everywhere the fires of divine love - to enlighten those who are in darkness and in the shadow of death - to enflame those who are lukewarm - to bring back life to those who are dead in sin...


23 posted on 06/10/2004 10:22:13 AM PDT by MudPuppy (To Jesus through the Immaculate Heart of Mary)
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To: Pyro7480

What a nightmarish account. As you discovered their true identity, I bet you recoiled. You are so much a person of the Sacred Heart of Jesus!

Doing a ping.


24 posted on 06/10/2004 10:56:24 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Pyro7480; Pippin

Your input requested here.


25 posted on 06/10/2004 10:57:22 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Pyro7480; dangus

"Ain't no such thing as coincidence, fellows!"


26 posted on 06/10/2004 11:01:02 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Pyro7480; dangus; *Catholic_list; father_elijah; nickcarraway; SMEDLEYBUTLER; Siobhan; ...
Catholic Action Ping!

Please notify me via FReepmail if you would like to be added to or taken off the Catholic Action Ping List.

Or maybe that should be non-Catholic ping! LOL!

27 posted on 06/10/2004 11:02:07 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Pyro7480

**I think it was an evil attempt to draw more people away from the Catholic faith, whether it was intentional or not (they very well could be among the brainwashed).**

I would tend to agree with you.

I can't remember the exact quote from the Bible, but it's about acknolwedging Jesus and He will acknowledge them before God.....and denying Jesus and He will deny them before God.


28 posted on 06/10/2004 11:04:49 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Pyro7480

Sounds like "The Duh Vinci Code" is their Bible.


29 posted on 06/10/2004 11:05:10 AM PDT by Antoninus (Federal Marriage Amendment, NOW!)
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To: Pyro7480
I am a Secular Franciscan and the thought of these pagans making themselves up to resemble Secular Franciscans or any othere religious/secular Christian order is sad and insulting.

These "women" need HELP!

30 posted on 06/10/2004 11:06:55 AM PDT by Pippin (God Bless Ronald Reagan 1911-2004 RIP)
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To: dangus
To: dangus

That's so funny... I know who you are :)

14 posted on 06/10/2004 11:45:11 AM CDT by dangus

**********************

This post is just dripping with irony. ;-)

31 posted on 06/10/2004 11:08:52 AM PDT by pgyanke ("The Son of God became a man to enable men to become sons of God" - C.S. Lewis)
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To: Salvation

See my post #30 to Pyro.


32 posted on 06/10/2004 11:09:32 AM PDT by Pippin (God Bless Ronald Reagan 1911-2004 RIP)
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To: Pyro7480

Not to be tasteless, Pyro, but there's sort of an elephant-in-the-living-room issue with those two "nuns." (although you did hint at it perhaps with reference to their hair.) Any doubt as to their um, well, orientation?


33 posted on 06/10/2004 11:10:57 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Pyro7480
It could have been worse.

You could have been surrounded by Jehovah's Witnesses.

I still say we could save some serious coin by getting those folks to deliver the mail.

34 posted on 06/10/2004 11:13:19 AM PDT by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from an animal shelter! It will save one life, and may save two.)
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To: Pyro7480

Thanks very much for the headsup.


35 posted on 06/10/2004 11:15:13 AM PDT by Askel5
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To: RonF; johnb2004

>>Surprised they were in line to pay respect to a conservative like Reagan?

>>Why would anyone be surprised they'd be in line to pay respect to a conservative?

Oh, they're republicans!

>>All I could find in my search so far is the following link: The World Foundation for Natural Science<<

This page includes a lengthy discussion about "Agenda 21" which makes the John Birch society sound like Arlen Specter.


36 posted on 06/10/2004 11:16:39 AM PDT by dangus
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To: pgyanke

Not only that... I know where he LIVES. Mwahaha.

You Jerk. (I mean that in a nice way.) I meant that as a follow-up post to Pyro, of course.


37 posted on 06/10/2004 11:19:23 AM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus; Pyro7480; eastsider
There's no way we didn't meet.

Just amazing! 'Eastsider' went to Washington to pay his respects to Reagan, as well!

38 posted on 06/10/2004 11:43:55 AM PDT by NYer (I would not believe the Gospel unless moved thereto by the Church. "- St. Augustine of Hippo)
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To: Pyro7480

bump for the humorous and sad irony.


39 posted on 06/10/2004 11:45:42 AM PDT by Havoc ("The line must be drawn here. This far and no further!")
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To: Havoc

And what "irony" would that be?


40 posted on 06/10/2004 11:56:45 AM PDT by Campion
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